Dale Earnhardt Jr visits Ganassi Race Shop

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Friction between Dale Earnhardt Jr. and his stepmother Teresa Earnhardt continues to hold up a deal that would legally bind Junior to the organization his father founded. Sources say that Earnhardt Jr., who has never had a formal contract with Dale Earnhardt Incorporated, was ready to ink his deal last week. But after a brief meeting with Teresa he walked away with the contract still unsigned. Most DEI insiders believe that it is all a matter of time before an agreement is reached. However, as long as Earnhardt Jr. is still technically a free agent other teams are trying to seduce the young star -- which may explain why Junior spent four hours last week at the Chip Ganassi shop.(from the ESPN site)
AND: Despite DEI's on-track success, the Winston Cup garage has been rife with reports of in-house problems, highlighted by Teresa's inability to sign Dale Earnhardt Jr. to a new contract after months of negotiations, and by reports from the Indy Racing League about DEI's failure to sign two-time IRL champ Sam Hornish after long talks. Norris denied the IRL report that Theresa vetoed his handshake deal with Hornish for a Winston Cup ride. 'I told Dale Jr. that Sam was the guy we wanted to drive our Busch car, and I was going to put him in some ARCA races too, and run him in the Daytona 500 and Brickyard 400 and all the Cup races after the IRL season,' Norris said. 'But Dale talked with him and said he didn't seem that interested, and Sam's agent said he wasn't interested in a Busch ride.' Hornish signed an Indy-car deal last week with Roger Penske, who runs Dodges in NASCAR and Toyotas in the IRL.
Dale Earnhardt Jr. has still not signed his contract, Norris said. 'He has a couple of issues he wants Teresa to address, and it's up to those two, but there has been some movement. 'As far as 'power struggle,' I do my job, and Steve Hmiel does his job, and Teresa owns the company and makes the final decisions. Don't think for one minute just because she's not sitting on the pit box that she is not fully engaged with what is happening with our teams and our sponsors.' John Andretti will take over as DEI teammate with Earnhardt and Michael Waltrip next week, but Norris said that 2004 is still up for debate. And team sources said that it could be a while before a decision is made. 'We have options for that car,' Norris said. 'The sponsor knows who those options are, and they're comfortable. We have two very legitimate potential sponsors, but we're on their schedule.' Greg Biffle is reported to be on DEI's list of potential drivers [Jayski Note: Biffle reupped with Roush - see below]. 'It's all open right now,' Norris said. 'John ran for us at Indianapolis, and that was a great weekend for us to see how he would interact with our guys. Now we want to see how he does at Richmond, Loudon and Dover. If he has some consistent runs, it will bode well for his career and our sponsor search. 'The sponsor front is a lot better than it was at the beginning of the summer, when it was a really tough time for everybody. I've been talking with other GMs, and they're all pretty pleased with the sponsor movement. A lot of that has to do with the work by Brett Yormark, Andrew Feit and Chris Brahe in NASCAR's New York office, because during the entitlement search they got companies excited about NASCAR.' Kraft, an associate sponsor, won't be stepping up, Norris said. 'That's not in their plans the next three years.'
 
Gannassi invited him for the free Budweiser's, come on who's kiding who?
 
This is false Jr wasnt in Chip's Shop in Mooresville, NC
 
Originally posted by wlfyk62@Sep 2 2003, 02:55 PM
This is false Jr wasnt in Chip's Shop in Mooresville, NC
According to an ESPN news posted on the internet, the report stated Junior spent four hours at Ganassi's shop.

What is your source of information to the contrary ????
 
Originally posted by Whizzer+Sep 2 2003, 01:35 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Whizzer @ Sep 2 2003, 01:35 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--wlfyk62@Sep 2 2003, 02:55 PM
This is false Jr wasnt in Chip's Shop in Mooresville, NC
According to an ESPN news posted on the internet, the report stated Junior spent four hours at Ganassi's shop.

What is your source of information to the contrary ???? [/b][/quote]
I'll save you the time and trouble, Whizzer. He can't/won't reveal his sources. :unsure:
 
I can revel my resources if i want to, but i wont becuase its private and i got my information from the circuit anyway from Media and Team Members
 
Originally posted by wlfyk62@Sep 2 2003, 02:40 PM
I can revel my resources if i want to, but i wont becuase its private and i got my information from the circuit anyway from Media and Team Members
Like I said. :rolleyes:
 
I'm sure if Lil'E visited Ganassi it was all innocent. Afterall, why shouldn't Teresa give Lil'E part of DEI? [Sarcasm]Look at all he's done to earn it.[/Sarcasm] He gets up a noon for the 8am meetings. He gripes and moans if he has to make a few appearances. Afterall a superstar like him shouldn't have to make more than 1 appearance a week. What are they thinking? Come on Teresa, give him the business and just walk away. You know you had nothing to do with its success.
And, if anyone believes that....
 
Originally posted by wlfyk62@Sep 2 2003, 07:40 PM
I can revel my resources if i want to, but i wont becuase its private and i got my information from the circuit anyway from Media and Team Members
Media members ??? And private ??? If the media has that information they would jump on disproving an erroneous report in an effort to make ESPN look bad. That's the way the game is played. And if you know it, it ain't confidential. So what purpose does it serve if you can't or won't back up your information ???
Wonder what your media persons boss at the office thinks if his reporter tells others this information but fails to offer proof so it can be public.

HEY !!! Don't get me wrong here. But when you make a comment at least back it up with something of substance.

Telling us your source was a media member but not revealing who it was is like you standing on a ladder peeing down my back and telling me it is raining outside. Get the idea ???? :cheers:
 
ROTFL, Whizzer! I am so glad to hear that someone else feels the same way about this guy. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck and acts like a duck, it's usually a duck. But in the case of wlfyk62 who knows. I know, it's Jimmy Spencer in disguise! :D
 
this......


But in the case of wlfyk62 who knows. I know, it's Jimmy Spencer in disguise!

and this.....


Telling us your source was a media member but not revealing who it was is like you standing on a ladder peeing down my back and telling me it is raining outside. Get the idea ????


:D :p :rolleyes:
 
Just couldn't help myself, bowtie! It was just too hard to pass up. Kinda like peeing up a rope! Ya know?!?! :lol:
 
As far as I am concerned when a person claims to have info and cant or wont back it up. It is no more then their opinion.
 
Originally posted by Gollum@Sep 2 2003, 08:38 PM
As far as I am concerned when a person claims to have info and cant or wont back it up. It is no more then their opinion.
my point exactly. ^_^
 
Uh...well not to thread jack your thread jacking Maj....but please explain how you 'pee up a rope'??And if you can do it,I certainly want to watch.No more mexican beer for you. :cheers:
 
Originally posted by 97forever@Sep 2 2003, 09:25 PM
Uh...well not to thread jack your thread jacking Maj....but please explain how you 'pee up a rope'??And if you can do it,I certainly want to watch.No more mexican beer for you. :cheers:
Kinda what I was thinking, it sounds like something I wanna see. B)
 
We could sell tickets Bow!Maybe even be her manager!When opportunity knocks we need to answer the door man!
Here Maj----drink more coffee/beer while Bow finds the rope!!

"See Maj pee up a rope!Get your tickets here!!"No way can this miss! B)
 
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YYAAAAHHH!!!!! dang BP, I don't know how to feel at this point. :eek:
 
Hey BP, thanks for the bathroom link...I think I learned something about girls today! :lol: :lol: :lol:
 
UPDATE:

Personal people from Chip Ganassi Racing Denied that Dale Earnhardt Jr was in the shop.
 
Originally posted by 97forever@Sep 3 2003, 02:54 PM
Possibly you could accomplish this Dee.....??As long as one of you can do it,we don't care which! :cheers:
Nope can't say I have every attempted to "pee up a rope", sorry.
 
Originally posted by majestyx+Sep 3 2003, 10:14 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (majestyx @ Sep 3 2003, 10:14 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Happy29@Sep 3 2003, 09:54 PM
Has this thread drifted from land or what ?
Not from land, just to the restroom! ROTFL! :lol: [/b][/quote]
or into the crapper. :lol: :D :huh:
 
I'm sure if Lil'E visited Ganassi it was all innocent. Afterall, why shouldn't Teresa give Lil'E part of DEI? [Sarcasm]Look at all he's done to earn it.[/Sarcasm] He gets up a noon for the 8am meetings. He gripes and moans if he has to make a few appearances. Afterall a superstar like him shouldn't have to make more than 1 appearance a week. What are they thinking? Come on Teresa, give him the business and just walk away. You know you had nothing to do with its success.
And, if anyone believes that....

i believe your talking about Jr's rookie season......DEI would be in a helleva lot of trouble if Jr wasnt driving for them. he's the reason that team is doing what its doing now...yes he does deserve part of that team...it was his fathers team...which is father said publicaly that he wanted Jr to take over one day.....i dont think Teresa is doing a very good job of lookin after the company that Sr built. Jr and the other Earnhardt children have every right to own part of that team....its a family business....his father owned it...he does deserve it...his stepmother wont give him part of a business his father built.....if i was in his shoes id be upset also.
 
Another Update:

Dale Earnhardt Jr. wasnt in the Chip Ganassi Shop, but he met Chip out to lunch some where to discuss future plans.

Mike Helton is still part of the DEI Rumor becuase he is a slient partner in the running of DEI
 
BN815, please don't take this the wrong way, because it is not intended to diss Jr.

I don't feel that Sr. would have just given Jr. part of DEI, just because he "deserves it" (as you say). I don't know of any business owner who would turn over the reigns of a company to anyone not even their own child if they were not confident that they had learned the entire inner workings of said company. There is much more involved in running DEI, or any company for that matter, than just securing sponsors, getting drivers under contract, etc. Jr. is NOT ready to run a company. IMHO, he isn't looking to do so, he just wants to reap the benefits of acting the part as an owner.

More thoughts on this later.
 
Originally posted by BudNapa815@Sep 4 2003, 03:24 PM
  i believe your talking about Jr's rookie season......DEI would be in a helleva lot of trouble if Jr wasnt driving for them.  he's the reason that team is doing what its doing now...yes he does deserve part of that team...it was his fathers team...which is father said publicaly that he wanted Jr to take over one day.....i dont think Teresa is doing a very good job of lookin after the company that Sr built.    Jr and the other Earnhardt children have every right to own part of that team....its a family business....his father owned it...he does deserve it...his stepmother wont give him part of a business his father built.....if i was in his shoes id be upset also.
With all due respect to your personal opinion, but where is DEI being mismanaged??? The one low spot with the three teams is the unfotunate incident and subsequent losss of Steve Park as driver of the #1. They other two teams are winning. One driver is the most popular driver in NASCAR today and possibly in the entire history of the sport. A driver who has not got a contract signed but who, in due time, will sign.

Friction inside the organization ??? That is what strengthens a good company. Different ideas.

And finally, Dale might have said he wanted his children to be part of the organization, but he made Mrs. Earnhardt his beneficiary, leaving no part of ownership in DEI to his children. Having them work for the company, not necessarily own a part of it, might have been his intention of them being a part of DEI. Being a part of something doesn't necessarily mean ownership. And if past history of Dale, Sr., business accumen are any indication, Junior has nothing of this magnitude given to him, son of the patriarch or not. If Junior wants a part he should earn it over time, not have it given to him because Dale was his father. Theresa is in charge and she seems to be doing a pretty good job so far.
 
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