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So..... I'm hearing on Sirius NASCAR radio that the track president is going to pay the leader of the Daytona 500 $200,000 for leading at the half way mark. Do you all think that is really going to make some kind of a difference in the racing that we'll be seeing? I don't get it.
 
There used to be 10 grand up for grabs for the halfway leader. And there was some serious racin' going on to get it. Gater Aid and Busch IIRC
 
This is one of the best ideas that has ever been used before.

Now we will see 50 miles of racing followed by 150 miles of riding around. Then another 50 miles of racing followed by another 200 miles of riding around. Then the race will start and we will see 50 miles of hard racing, pushing and such.
 
So..... I'm hearing on Sirius NASCAR radio that the track president is going to pay the leader of the Daytona 500 $200,000 for leading at the half way mark. Do you all think that is really going to make some kind of a difference in the racing that we'll be seeing? I don't get it.


I call it the "Hope for no parade fund".
 
if i'm anywhere near the front i'm going for it. 200 grand ain't pocket change.
 
It's not going to change a thing. We'll see the same racing that we've been seeing recently at restrictor plate tracks only this time we'll have DW shoving this crap down our collective throats every ten laps. The $10,000 that they used to pay out at the halfway mark never produced better racing. It was nothing more than an additional sponsor for the race. At the drop of the green, each of the teams will get matched up with their partner. Green flag lap after green flag lap the lead will swap positions over and over and lap 100 will be just like each of those other laps. Nobody ever remembers who's leading at halfway. Why, because it doesn't mean a thing. It's a gimmick, just like the $100,000 was @ Talladega for the most lead changes last October. If the incentive is to have these guys race harder then why stop @ $200,000 to lead one lap of the race. Heck, give them a point for ever green flag lap they lead from lap 1-100. That's just as dumb an idea as what they came up with.
 
it may be a gimmick but to one of the drivers it's a $200,000 payday on top of his earnings for the race.
 
it may be a gimmick but to one of the drivers it's a $200,000 payday on top of his earnings for the race.

True enough. Sure, that's great that someone can score the extra bucks. I just can't see where this improves the product on the track in the least.
 
I hope Grannys not in a wheel chair, that would be an unfair advantage:D

But, she would probably be better off being in a wheelchair before he wrecks her. Unless its a bad wreck, and they need the jaws of life to free her from the twisted tube steel. :bazooka:
 
Interesting take IMO.....


COMMENTARY: Pandering To The ADD Fan

Daytona International Speedway announced yesterday that as part of a record purse of more than $19 million, the track will pay a $200,000 bonus to the driver who leads lap 100 – the halfway lap -- in this month’s season-opening Daytona 500.
“There is plenty of incentive for drivers to run up front the entire race, but even more so at the halfway point and the last lap of the Daytona 500,” said DIS President Joie Chitwood in a news release announcing the program.” The good news is that the fine folks in Daytona Beach are trying. They’re promoting the heck out of the “Great American Race,” adding what they consider to be spice to the soup, rather than simply clasping their hands and praying for a sold-out grandstand.
Unfortunately, our friends at DIS have bought into the erroneous belief that NASCAR Sprint Cup Series racing is… well, boring. They’ve begun pandering to a group of race fans demanding that something – anything – bring them to their feet in a screaming fit of euphoric bliss, every minute of every day.
As a whole, our society has been decimated by a mass outbreak of Attention Deficit Disorder. We fast-forward through movies, skipping past those pesky plot points in order to determine “Who Done It” and move on to whatever comes next. We heat our pre-packaged meals in a microwave oven, eating them over the sink because cooking and washing dishes take too long. We eschew old-fashioned conversation in favor of Twitter, dumbing our thoughts down to 140 characters or less in the interest of time.
NASCAR Nation has been particularly hard-hit by this epidemic. Our demand for constant stimulation has become so overwhelming that for many, the Daytona 500 is no longer good enough. Our insistence on instant gratification has rendered us incapable of enjoying the action, strategy and competitiveness of a full, 500-mile race. Incapable of waiting for the actual finish, we now demand a “Halfway Bonus” to spice-up the middle stages of the race and make our favorite driver risk it all for our entertainment pleasure, every single lap.
Last year, Talladega Superspeedway attempted a similar ploy, offering a $100,000 bonus to the driver who created the 100th lead change in October’s Good Sam Club 500. The track’s previous race had produced a record 88 lead changes, breaking the previous mark of 87 set just one race earlier. Track President Grant Lynch – like Daytona’s Chitwood – bought into the “bonus money makes drivers try harder” premise, anteing up a six-figure bonus that resulted in reams of pre-race publicity, but few results on race day.
Talladega’s $100,000 bonus went unclaimed last fall, despite a highly competitive event that tallied 72 lead changes. Why weren’t the drivers beating their brains out trying to run-up the number of lead changes? And more importantly, why did drivers like Jimmie Johnson, Dale Earnhardt, Jr. and Carl Edwards – all of whom had very fast cars and would have been prime contenders to claim that $100,000 bonus – never go to the front until the very end of the race?
The answer is simple. Because no matter how we try, we cannot make the middle matter.
It’s the Daytona 500, not the Daytona 250. This is big-time professional stock car racing, not Youth League soccer, where no score is kept and everyone gets a popsicle after the game. NASCAR races are marathon events, not sprints, and fans incapable of understanding the difference deserve education, not pandering.
If we are no longer capable of enjoying a full, 500-mile event the way our fathers and grandfathers did, maybe it’s time to simply admit defeat. Let’s pull the plug on live, flag-to-flag TV coverage, since people say they’re sleeping through the middle 300 miles anyway. Let’s revert back to the “Good Old Days” when the race was delivered in an easy-to-digest, 30-minute highlight package a week after it took place; showcasing the start, a couple of wrecks and the final 10 laps.
That way, we’ll have more time to devote to the non-stop excitement of our VideoStation 3, where someone’s head is exploding at all times.

From here.
 
I hope so lol

Either way it sounds like it was written by an 80 year old person.

But it is so true, no matter what is done fans will complain either way, but perhaps if the racing at plate tracks was actually real racing where the cars could passs each other without hooking up like trains, we might have a lot less complaining.
 
But it is so true, no matter what is done fans will complain either way, but perhaps if the racing at plate tracks was actually real racing where the cars could passs each other without hooking up like trains, we might have a lot less complaining.

But they hook up like trains in order to pass. That is because there is too much parity .I think that Nascar should make the Ford drivers drive mini vans at the plate tracks . Then you would see some real passing.
 
It will just give the annoucers something to talk about early...I seriously doubt it affects the actual racing much. The guys are forced to do the two-by-two thing or they fall way behind right? It's not like they can break away on their own and go for the $200K.

Oh well, I'm looking forward to the race. If they want to improve it they should allow 60 cars into the field like the old days (kidding - sort of).
 
Dave Moody is such a shill for NASCAR. There's nothing wrong with making races more entertaining. Short tracks have halfway points and halfway bonuses all over the country. Some of them even have halftime -- the Trucks used to do it.

I'd like to see NASCAR start taking steps to reduce the number of fuel mileage races.
 
And, yes Dave, watchoing guys ride around for 450 miles and only race for 50 miles is boring... especially when the final 50 miles end up being fuel mileage races (as is the norm).
 
Dave Moody is such a shill for NASCAR. There's nothing wrong with making races more entertaining. Short tracks have halfway points and halfway bonuses all over the country. Some of them even have halftime -- the Trucks used to do it.

I'd like to see NASCAR start taking steps to reduce the number of fuel mileage races.

Maybe all the races should have a halftime break?
 
If we are no longer capable of enjoying a full, 500-mile event the way our fathers and grandfathers did, maybe it’s time to simply admit defeat.

Moody must be the one with ADD. Most of the races, when our fathers grandfathers were watching, were 100 and 200 lap races, on tracks that produced quality racing, in real cars... not 500 mile races at 1.5 mile mega-stadiums designed, not for racing, but to hold the highest number of fans possible.

I'd enjoy 500 lap races if there were more tracks like Martinsville on the schedule. Bring back North Wilkesboro and "reconfigure" Bristol back to the way it was.
 
Maybe all the races should have a halftime break?

I don't know, it sure would spice things up a little. Moody irritates the living piss out of me. There's nothing wrong with adding excitement. And he pulls this crap of, people enjoyed 500 mile races long ago, crap. There used to be, like what, 5 races that were more than 250 laps back then yet it's our generation that's the problem? Give me a break.

The races at Martinsville provide endless action. The old Bristol configuration produced endless action. And he can tell me 100 times over that the Talladega race in the Spring had 88 lead changes of whatever, but it still sucked.

The races are long. The tracks are almost all the same. The tracks aren't built for racing, they're built to seat 120,000 people. The cars are so aero sensitive that drivers are afraid to race hard on a track like Richmond or Bristol.
 
But it is so true, no matter what is done fans will complain either way, but perhaps if the racing at plate tracks was actually real racing where the cars could passs each other without hooking up like trains, we might have a lot less complaining.

Moody's complaining about fans complaining because the racing is the same as it used to be, just as long and everything, when it's just not true. The Truck races and ARCA races are longer than the Cup races were back "in the day". It's typical Moody -- the product's fine, the fans are the problem.

I should write him and say the races at Thunder Road are too short and designed for fans with ADD and they should run 500 lap races there. He'd reply right back and say the races are just fine and that I'm the problem for complaining.
 
Best case scenario..... A handful of laps of backmarkers going all-out for a quick payday in the middle of the race for something that means absolutely nothing. Who really cares what driver leads a race @ the half? Are any of you really interested in what driver leads the Daytona 500 @ lap 100? Maybe they should start handing out a 1/2 scale replica of the Harley J.Earl Trophy to the recipient of this coveted award?

Worst case scenario..... A handful of laps of backmarkers going all-out for a quick payday in the middle of the race, for something that means absolutely nothing, cause the 'big one' and take out the better part of the field.

I still believe that this was not much more than a gimmick to garner interest in the race to try to increase attendance and/or ratings. I hope it works out for them in any case.
 
Start and park car runs to halfway, leads one lap makes 400k parks it and retires for the rest of the season :)
 
I can't wait. I just realized that I am only 10 days and 100 laps away from finding out who wins the big $200,000.00.
 
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