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OK.......how does that constitute calling the race ???Was the tire tread anywhere near the racing ??? Oh yeah, Stewart was leading. Good call Helton. Also, kudos to Johnson for ruining Labontes night. Doesn't matter what they do, plate races will always be the worst show on earth.
 
The leaders were on the backstretch, a lap down car in turn 3 lost the tire.
 
The tire wasn't in the field of play.Several races in the past have had last lap instances that could affect the leaders/ outcome and are given the green to the end. Just pointing out that nascar reserves the right to affect the outcome if at all possible, and it's only getting worse.On the bright side, it's Marks last year in cup so I can just watch truck races next year !!!
 
CypressTrout said:
OK.......how does that constitute calling the race ???Was the tire tread anywhere near the racing ??? Oh yeah, Stewart was leading. Good call Helton. Also, kudos to Johnson for ruining Labontes night. Doesn't matter what they do, plate races will always be the worst show on earth.
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dude jimmie's car got loose, there wasn't anything he could do, so check yourself before you start running your mouth.
 
Yeah, I guess that was the first mistake he's ever made on a plate track, huh ??He couldn't bring himself to lift the first time he stepped out. Decided to keep his foot in it & wrecked. BTW, I'll run my mouth at will, so check yourself.
 
right, as long as is not you in those race cars you will talk bullocks. ENOUGH SAID my friend.
 
Wow, you got me there ???? I talk to the castrated bull ??? Did you mean bollocks instead of bullocks ??? ;)
 
Cypress the way i saw it Johson got loose when they were 3 wide, nothing he could do, looked like the air was taken off the spoiler. Rather than come down into traffic after hitting the 43 he kept it up to avoid a major wreck. Usually i don't stick up for the 48, but in this case he was not at fault and did the right thing.
 
Then get run over? Come on dude, that wouldn't of been good now would it?
 
Fact is, Johnson has run his mouth about how far he's come & how much he's learned about "being smart" at plate races blah blah blah. Then, at the front of the pack, plenty of time left, he gets passed on the bottom and becomes the middle of a three wide sandwich going into the corner. What choice does he make ??? Lift & get back in line to work his way to the front again(smart thing to do)?? No. He decides to keep his foot in it & wrecks. He's the one that was in the bad place(middle), continued racing, spun out, and ruined a great run by Labonte in the process.Simple as that.
 
CypressTrout said:
OK.......how does that constitute calling the race ???Was the tire tread anywhere near the racing ??? Oh yeah, Stewart was leading. Good call Helton. Also, kudos to Johnson for ruining Labontes night. Doesn't matter what they do, plate races will always be the worst show on earth.
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At the time the yellow flew the tire was still on the track andd by the time the camera showed it, it came down off the racing surface.
 
Mopardh9 said:
Then get run over? Come on dude, that wouldn't of been good now would it?
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I saw guys lifting and avoiding trouble throughout the whole race. At the time there was nobody directly behind Johnson.
It's all about give and take in a plate race.
 
How dose a thread about a coution ruining a good finish (witch it did) turn into a flame war over JJ lack of brain power?
 
fun_in_my_z said:
How dose a thread about a coution ruining a good finish (witch it did) turn into a flame war over JJ lack of brain power?
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you can thank cypress for that.
 
I love it...Jimmie Jo! Maj, forgive me but I think that's the funniest thing I've read here in a long while.

Once again, this thread shows how emotional and passionate we can/are when it comes to this wonderful sport. For all you Jimmie Jo fans, and Bobby La, or Marky Mar, etc. I feel for ya, but if not for your bad luck, my boy Kasey wouldn't have done so well, if you call finishing 25th good. Those Evernham cars weren't worth a crap from the word go and Scotty was the best all day/night long.

As for the final caution, this isn't anything new. And for those of you who still hate plate racing, why on earth are you still watching them? We've been over this before, but from where I sit, follow the leader racing is fine and dandy, but when you can get three/four or even five wide racing, and there are 30 or more cars in a grouping, well, while it might not be racing to some, it sure as hell is exciting because one never knows what is going to happen. And to that point, I find it amazing that the wrecks that did happen, we didn't see the "big one". Will wonders never cease.

One last thing for you Jimmie Jo and Bobby La fans, you aren't the only ones who are pining after this race. Po little Jeffy Go and crew, who pretty much had THE car, found themselves in the wrong place at the wrong time. And though we'll never know what could have been, that's the way this sport is.

PS. If Tony continues to win and climb the fences, he just might lose a little weight and that could help him in the long run. :beerbang:
 
^ yep. i myself i'm pissed off, as i'm a jeff gordon fan, but i'm even more pissed at the decision he's crew chief made to pit four tires. jeff could've come away with a top 5 even a to 3 if he wouldn't had pitted for four tires. :(
 
fun_in_my_z said:
How dose a thread about a coution ruining a good finish (witch it did) turn into a flame war over JJ lack of brain power?
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The initial post on this thread was about a caution & about JJ.
 
reck said:
you can thank cypress for that.
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Actually your smart remark about me running my mouth started it. I have an opinion as much as you & can voice it openly. If you don't like it,voice your opinion, put me on ignore, or whatever. But don't talk about anyone unnecessarily running their mouths. That is what a message board is for ....varying opinions.
 
^ whatever dude i too posted what i though, you in the other hand took it to the next level attacking me about not spelling some stupid word, i mean dude if that's all you have than you better throw in the towels and give up. not everybody here is an english professor, now if you still wanna attack me with nonsense then go ahead because i wont be putting you or anybody on ignore so would you please stop?
 
That's funny...I felt like you were attacking me, too. Sure, I'll take the blame & stop. Now can you ??
 
attacking you? nah man not attacking you, those were merely opinions, but i tell you what, i'd take half the blame for all of this nonsense. now we can be friends, or aleast get along from now on? what do you say to that?
 
Time out! If jj a bl hadnt a wrecked j burton wouldnt have got into the top 20!
 
all i say was it was a racing deal and tough luck for both.. and for the debris, i understand it and tony was going to win, so what if nascar played it safe? i say it was a good call
 
CypressTrout said:
Fact is, Johnson has run his mouth about how far he's come & how much he's learned about "being smart" at plate races blah blah blah. Then, at the front of the pack, plenty of time left, he gets passed on the bottom and becomes the middle of a three wide sandwich going into the corner. What choice does he make ??? Lift & get back in line to work his way to the front again(smart thing to do)?? No. He decides to keep his foot in it & wrecks. He's the one that was in the bad place(middle), continued racing, spun out, and ruined a great run by Labonte in the process.Simple as that.
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I'd be the first to jump at slamming JJ for anything he does on a plate track, but i really think in this instance that Johnson wasn't at fault. To me it was just another one of those racing incidents.
 
Yes they did throw the yellow for a tire cap we saw rolling off the track, so why are you whining?
Where the heck was the rest of the car it was attatched to, still on the track?
 
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