Did Bowyer get his payback for Gordon wrecking him last year?

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Nice spin dude. In the end, the only reason Gordon had a chance is because his teammate was out there to make sure there was a timely caution. Chad sure was intense all night, and he got it right and turned the field upside down for Gordo.

Lets hear some 48 radio chatter and see how that worked.
 
If his spin was intentional I feel it was moreso to help his teanmate.
I should call it the alledged intentional spin.( I need spell check )
 
Nice spin dude. In the end, the only reason Gordon had a chance is because his teammate was out there to make sure there was a timely caution. Chad sure was intense all night, and he got it right and turned the field upside down for Gordo.

Lets hear some 48 radio chatter and see how that worked.

Was nobody watching when this happened? Jimmie blew a tire... at the time Jeff was actually in the pits but the caution came out before he had the chance to go to his stall. If JJ's tire had blown a few seconds later Jeff would have gotten hosed along with all of the others.
 
This thing goes on multiple times a year, every year. and each time everyone is like "ive lost all faith in nascar" "everyone sucks, F the world".
 
The Borwyer spin:

I hate that it took Newman out he drove the best race and deserved the W imo, a much more worthy victim than tonights other loser.

The Pros: After Gordon's chicken**** at Phoenix last year I am glad to see him suffer again from the hands of the same oppresser, the dastardly evil Clint intentional or not. I have never been one to talk about karma but just maybe it does happen after all.

But Jeff will be ok, he is real bad ass and he is probably waiting for Clint to pass him (an event that happens with great regularity or repetition) . Then he will courageously clip him again knowing his secret service thugs will alao protect him again.
Such a bad ass.
 
But Jeff will be ok, he is real bad ass and he is probably waiting for Clint to pass him (an event that happens with great regularity or repetition) . Then he will courageously clip him again knowing his secret service thugs will alao protect him again.
Such a bad ass.

:XXROFL:
Three big laughs from me in on two sentences. Bravo!
 
Here's the in-car video from the spin and post-race Clint interview for those who missed it:

 
The Borwyer spin:

I hate that it took Newman out he drove the best race and deserved the W imo, a much more worthy victim than tonights other loser.

The Pros: After Gordon's chicken**** at Phoenix last year I am glad to see him suffer again from the hands of the same oppresser, the dastardly evil Clint intentional or not. I have never been one to talk about karma but just maybe it does happen after all.

But Jeff will be ok, he is real bad ass and he is probably waiting for Clint to pass him (an event that happens with great regularity or repetition) . Then he will courageously clip him again knowing his secret service thugs will alao protect him again.
Such a bad ass.

Wait Greg that karma thing is just a low down thing to say, Bowyer Karma? come on that is just wrong.

Karma wasnt a factor, Jeff just isn't among the 10 best drivers anymore and he just doesn't belong in the chase. Remember no wins, and not being able to even stroke his way into the top 10 in points. Late race cautions with his restarting non abilities should have been the handwriting on the wall.

Late race cautions = Diarrhea
If I was a smarty living in Michigan I would compose the following formula for the above equations.....

24 lrc = real reallly bad number two :).
 
Dale Jr.: "He just spun right out. That's the craziest thing I ever saw. He just came right around. He got ‑‑ we were going into, through 3 and 4, and I don't know if they can put up his brakes and his gas. We got all the technology. But he was hemming around on the brakes and jerking the car around, and then the thing just spun out. It was crazy. I don't know what was going on. It was right there, I almost run into it, so I'm glad we were able to get out of there without any trouble."
 
Was nobody watching when this happened? Jimmie blew a tire... at the time Jeff was actually in the pits but the caution came out before he had the chance to go to his stall. If JJ's tire had blown a few seconds later Jeff would have gotten hosed along with all of the others.

Looked like he hit the wall on the front stretch and blew the tire. Bowyers right front was flat, so why is he getting all the flak?
 
Looked like he hit the wall on the front stretch and blew the tire. Bowyers right front was flat, so why is he getting all the flak?

Probably because Bowyer's circumstance is a bit more suspicious. The weird radio communication + randomly spinning out after "jerking the car around" + nervous sounding post race interview = cause for suspicion. Jimmie, on the other hand, could have just as easily screwed Gordon even more with the situation they were in.
 
Dale Jr.: "He just spun right out. That's the craziest thing I ever saw. He just came right around. He got ‑‑ we were going into, through 3 and 4, and I don't know if they can put up his brakes and his gas. We got all the technology. But he was hemming around on the brakes and jerking the car around, and then the thing just spun out. It was crazy. I don't know what was going on. It was right there, I almost run into it, so I'm glad we were able to get out of there without any trouble."

Sure does sound a little suspicious.
 
I think Bowyer spun on purpose, but reluctantly. That's why they had to remind him on the radio a few times. So he was probably under orders from his owner, good ole Mikey, to do what had to be done. Bowyer clearly was uncomfortable with what he'd done.

If nothing else, Bowyer needs to get a better poker face. I like Bowyer, but he is a terrible liar. He looked like a teenage boy caught sneaking a beer in that interview. He looked like I feel when I lie. And I'm a terrible liar.
 
Boyer spun on purpose and there is not a doubt in my mind about it. Team orders you know. ;)
 
Not sure why they didn't order the 55 to spin but it did look a little fishy.. Either way, glad to see Truex in there over Newman, especially after he $hit on his pit crew
 
Not sure why they didn't order the 55 to spin but it did look a little fishy.. Either way, glad to see Truex in there over Newman, especially after he $hit on his pit crew
because if the 15 spins it doesn't matter one bit, points are reset. the 55 however is trying to get as best they can owners points wise. I am glad others are seeing how crappy clint lies. you can tell in the interview he is not being truthful. The first couple words out of his mouth betray him. Its even more evident if you watch it a few times.
 
Bowyer lost the cup to Keselowsi by 39 points. Gordon intentionally wrecked Bowyer at Phoenix. Yeah, he got his payback.
 
I think Bowyer spun on purpose, but reluctantly. That's why they had to remind him on the radio a few times. So he was probably under orders from his owner, good ole Mikey, to do what had to be done. Bowyer clearly was uncomfortable with what he'd done.

If nothing else, Bowyer needs to get a better poker face. I like Bowyer, but he is a terrible liar. He looked like a teenage boy caught sneaking a beer in that interview. He looked like I feel when I lie. And I'm a terrible liar.
That's the exact same vibe I got. Clint was very quiet on the radio and in the interview after the race, which isn't like him at all. As I and a couple others alluded to in the race thread, you'd think that knowing how he is, he would have been furious that people were accusing him of intentionally spinning out. You'd also have thought he would have been pumped that both he and Truex made the Chase (even though he had already clinched a spot).

I dunno what that 15 team was thinking. They should have just gone to Channel 2. Problem solved.
 
Bowyer lost the cup to Keselowsi by 39 points. Gordon intentionally wrecked Bowyer at Phoenix. Yeah, he got his payback.
I don't think what Bowyer did last night was any worse than what Gordon did to him last year at Phoenix. Both moves altered the results, but IMO, intentionally looping your own car is far better than waiting on a driver to come by, intentionally turning him head-on into the wall, and taking other cars out in the process.
 
The 55 should have did the dirty work. Clint is in the chase, if he is near the lead in the last few races there will be a price to pay.

There is the Hendrick empire of cars to deal with, including an SHR group that completely misses the chase, I think for the first time.

I would say Clint is the one driver who has no chance in the chase. Gordon and Newman have little to loose, assuming that Newman has already inked a deal with RCR. In all seriousness they have a legitimate grievance. I dont think Nascar will do much about it, if they want some sense of satisfaction they will have to handle it themselves.

Probably a mistake, they would be better served to remember that winning the next race should always be the biggest concern. I think Vickers derailed himself out some opportunities in 2011 settling a fued, but if you are damaged with no shot of winning a race the 15 will be a juicy target.

People hate Vanilla Johnson in part for being less fuedual and all business, but it is one of the reasons for Chad and Jimmies sucess.
 
Now that I think about it, why didn't Newman just stay on the racetrack during the final caution? There was only 3 laps left when they got the green, i'm pretty sure he could've held them off for three laps on worn tires but what do I know...
 
I kinda like the way Bowyer put a spin on the Chase. But I bet the boss had a lot to do with it. I wonder if nice guy Gordon will want to plant him in the wall again to take out his frustrations.
 
I don't think what Bowyer did last night was any worse than what Gordon did to him last year at Phoenix. Both moves altered the results, but IMO, intentionally looping your own car is far better than waiting on a driver to come by, intentionally turning him head-on into the wall, and taking other cars out in the process.

It's all relative. If Kahne had spun his car to keep Gordo in the chace and boot out a Roush driver or Hamlin, there'd be candy canes flying out peoples ****** and teamwork would be the word of year. On to the chase :cheers:
 
It's all relative. If Kahne had spun his car to keep Gordo in the chace and boot out a Roush driver or Hamlin, there'd be candy canes flying out peoples ****** and teamwork would be the word of year. On to the chase :cheers:
Exactly. I don't think it's as much about what happened as it is about who it happened to. If such a move had kept Kyle or JJ out of the Chase, a lot of the people bashing Clint would probably be singing his praises.
 
Wait Greg that karma thing is just a low down thing to say, Bowyer Karma? come on that is just wrong.

Karma wasnt a factor, Jeff just isn't among the 10 best drivers anymore and he just doesn't belong in the chase. Remember no wins, and not being able to even stroke his way into the top 10 in points. Late race cautions with his restarting non abilities should have been the handwriting on the wall.

Late race cautions = Diarrhea
If I was a smarty living in Michigan I would compose the following formula for the above equations.....

24 lrc = real reallly bad number two :).
Greg I guess your fishing is getting a little obvious, no bites at all. :D
 
I'd like to take us all back to the 2011 Talledega Fall race when HMS orders had Jeff Gordon and Mark Martin staying on track under caution for the sole purpose of keeping Edwards from leading a lap.

My, my, how things have changed.
 
John Darby from nascam says they dont think it was on purpose so I guess MWR and Clint got away with it. It really shows their true colors.
 
These things go on all the time. Clint did about as good a job as Menard did, and nascar said if nobody admits it they can't issue a penalty.

You can bet your ass if the situation was different before JJ's walling, like Jeff were leading, the 48 would have been in the garage.
 
You can bet your ass if the situation was different before JJ's walling, like Jeff were leading, the 48 would have been in the garage.
I would have to dispute that claim. it's not like he was riding around with a wrecked racecar. he was laps down because he has an issue with his batteries and had to go to the garage to change them. the tire blowing was simply a freak incident.
 
the idea of having teammates in racing is kinda ridiculous anyway. The team is the people who work on the car & the driver. It's an individual accomplishment sport, we don't need on-track teammates. Get back to everybody for themselves & none of this corruption **** would happen
 
Nice spin dude. In the end, the only reason Gordon had a chance is because his teammate was out there to make sure there was a timely caution. Chad sure was intense all night, and he got it right and turned the field upside down for Gordo.

Lets hear some 48 radio chatter and see how that worked.
This is so lame it doesn't even deserve a fishing gif.
 
amazed that rusty-n- tv crew jumped on bowyer so quick.
controversy ta incr chase viewers i guess.
 
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