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NASCAR should of black flaged him for that, He just went up the track and knocked the hell out of Newman. And Harvick got the short end of the stick on that deal. And ford fans, dont tell me his car "pushed" and one with eyes can tell he aimed at that 12 car.

NASCAR needs to learn to use the black flag again. They black flaged Earnhardt here in 96 and it just not 1/2 as bad as this one.

If i was newman or harvick i would of had a little chat with Mr. Dale Jarrett.
 
Lap3Forever said:
If i was newman or harvick i would of had a little chat with Mr. Dale Jarrett.
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Honestly, I don't think Harvick would want any part of Jarrett. He carefully chooses who he talks smack to. Remember the distance he kept from the rooster when went ape a few years back ?? Didn't really want to open that can of worms.
 
newman was just racing jarret, but of course dj wouldn't care less about that and went for it, but dj did get penalyse for that..he was held 2 laps in pit road, also dale jarret found himself deep within the points for the brilliant driver that he is.
 
N2racin88 said:
Naw, he was just trying to "rattle his cage"
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Still dont make it right for DJ to take out Newman, That could of been a safty issuse with the drivers.

Guess no one can say DJ is a perfitly clean driver after tonight,

I know Robby has pulled some crap, so dont tell my i have a dirty driver.
 
I've really not cared for DJ that much since he pulled a slick one at the end of the spring Talladega race in 2000. I was there & he chapped my arse. My wife likes him, though. So, I act like I like him.(Good tip for any un-married men out there looking to get hitched). :D
 
My idea: Bring back Shane Hmiel to give him an in-car talking to. Shane doesn't have to race or anything, just tell him a few things. Put it on pay per view.
 
Meanwhile, Carl Edwards was seen baking a cake that was to be later delivered to Petty Enterprises on Monday.
 
Really hard for me to feel any sympathy for Harvick on this one . He's got enough bad karma built up , it may take 5 years to clean his slate.
 
I'm not sure how Newman can claim he accidentally rammed his Dodge into the back of Dale, but he did. DJ should not have wrecked him, though. It really hurt him in the points. He was moving forward and making progress. I'm not sure I wouldn't have done the same thing.

I can't stand Harvick, but it is a shame he was collected in this one. He was minding his own business for once. He seemed more upset with his spotter than anything. Did anyone see him interviewed after he saw a replay?
 
I, too, feel for Kevin in this one. He should have followed Vickers more closely.

I think there is enough blame for everyone involved in this incident. It seemed to me that tempers were fraying a bit more quickly than usual last night. If I hadn't known better, I would have sworn it was a full moon.
 
Jarrret was most definitely in the wrong but I don't understand what Harvick was doing cutting back up the track. Maybe he got distracted when the #25 (I think it was)zipped passed him.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
I, too, feel for Kevin in this one. He should have followed Vickers more closely.

I think there is enough blame for everyone involved in this incident. It seemed to me that tempers were fraying a bit more quickly than usual last night. If I hadn't known better, I would have sworn it was a full moon.
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Nah ... it's just Bristol.
 
BobbyFord said:
I heard his spotter saying "go low, go low", Harvick just didn't go low enough.
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he was lower then Vickers, but his spotter said "good job your clear" and as soon as he said that Kevin lifted and went high and nailed Newman.

Newman's car was hard to see on the bottom of the track the way it was seating.

Edwards, just over drove the car and spun 2 or 3 cars.
 
Ya know the average bear can take only so much! Ryan don't seem to mind who he "pushes" out of his way, and NASCAR has yet to chastise him for it.

He finally just whomped the wrong guy at the wrong time. DJ is up there fighting for a spot too, and Ryan just blatantly took him out!!!
I laffed my butt off when DJ got Ryan! Sorry about Kevin, but he sorta has a "colored" past too. Good for DJ for declining the media interviews.
I think both DJ and Ryan should be penalized by NASCAR for "Actions detrimental to ........" LOL (Well you know the rest.)
 
Newman claims his was unintentional. but I'm thinking spinning him out may have been unintentional. It was pretty obvious he intentionally wanted to nudge DJ out of the way.
Jarret is normally pretty cool about these things but being a normal human being he let his frustration show. he has had a very frustrating year.
the last time I saw Jarret lose his cool was at this same track about 12 or 13 years ago when he threw his helmet at another car. Nascar told him that day that even if they got his car fixed they wouldn't let him back out.
:beerbang: :beerbang: :beerbang:
 
Lap3Forever said:
but at the time when DJ spun Newman, was DJ on the lead lap? if not he should be the one fined.
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If he was not on the lead lap it was probably due to Ryan spinning him out previously. Ryan has that habit and I have little sympathy for him.
 
Regardless of whether or not Ryan did it on purpose or it was a racing deal there were 110 laps between the 2 incicents. DJ lost sight of the big picture and now has probably removed all chance of his making the Chase.

Anyway you look at it, it was a stupid move.
 
LOL Kenny Schrader said it well on Wind Tunnel a few minutes ago.
DJ handled it "like a veteran". ie, Kenny felt that what DJ did was justified.
And so do I. ;) :p :D
 
Lap3Forever said:
Still dont make it right for DJ to take out Newman, That could of been a safty issuse with the drivers.

Guess no one can say DJ is a perfitly clean driver after tonight,

I know Robby has pulled some crap, so dont tell my i have a dirty driver.
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Now Lappy you know I'm a Robby fan, so let me ask you this question.

Was what Dale did worse than Robby going after Biffle last year and taking out Tony? Remember, Tony was in the top ten and they were in the Chase races.
Robby was black flagged to go into the pits to serve a 2 lap penalty. DJ went to the pits for repairs, so after repairs were completed, NASCAR held him for 2 additional laps.
They've also served the same penalty to others for the same offense, so how should DJ got a stiffer penalty.

You want NASCAR to be consistant? They were. :)
 
racer8 said:
the last time I saw Jarret lose his cool was at this same track about 12 or 13 years ago when he threw his helmet at another car. Nascar told him that day that even if they got his car fixed they wouldn't let him back out.
:beerbang: :beerbang: :beerbang:
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One of the funniest things I've seen on a track was DJ a few years ago. He had been in "The Big One" on a plate track - Daytona summer race, I think. He thought the rescue crew took too long to get to him and by the time they finally did, he decided to walk! He wouldn't get in the ambulance! Classic.
 
Eagle1 said:
Now Lappy you know I'm a Robby fan, so let me ask you this question.

Was what Dale did worse than Robby going after Biffle last year and taking out Tony? Remember, Tony was in the top ten and they were in the Chase races.
Robby was black flagged to go into the pits to serve a 2 lap penalty. DJ went to the pits for repairs, so after repairs were completed, NASCAR held him for 2 additional laps.
They've also served the same penalty to others for the same offense, so how should DJ got a stiffer penalty.

You want NASCAR to be consistant? They were. :)
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I C, guess for some reasion i missed the part where they held him for 2 more laps. my bad
 
I remember that one. Not only did he take out Tony but Jeremy Mayfield as well I think.
 
First DJ pretty much screwed himself and maybe out of the chase now. Wasnt a smart move at all. As for as Kevin I dont care much about him. He cracked me up...what the last race or bush race when it parked in a 90 degree angle in front of biffle trying to act like he was going to start something with biffle. Then gave some kind of BS excuse why he parked that way :rolleyes:

I tell you what Ive seen Edward take out his share of cars this year that shouldnt have happened. I wish Kasey Kahne would be a tad more Aggressive.
 
dragonlady424 said:
LOL Kenny Schrader said it well on Wind Tunnel a few minutes ago.
DJ handled it "like a veteran". ie, Kenny felt that what DJ did was justified.
And so do I. ;) :p :D
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Kenny Schrader might think it was a veteran move but it was a stupid move made in anger that brought others into a personal vendetta. The following is how a veteran would have handled it.

Many years ago, Morgan Shepherd got taken out two or three different times over the course of a year by Dale Earnhardt. Shepherd waited until the proper time, a race at Rockingham and no one was around. Shepherd drove up the track and wrecked Earnhardt. It was a payback.

The point is, Shepherd acted like a real veteran who had a score to settle and waited until an appropriate time.
There is never a reason to take someone out if the possibility exists others will get caught up in your personal disagreement. Payback like DJ used was not a "veteran" move.
 
Brickyard_400 said:
First DJ pretty much screwed himself and maybe out of the chase now. Wasnt a smart move at all. As for as Kevin I dont care much about him. He cracked me up...what the last race or bush race when it parked in a 90 degree angle in front of biffle trying to act like he was going to start something with biffle. Then gave some kind of BS excuse why he parked that way :rolleyes:

I tell you what Ive seen Edward take out his share of cars this year that shouldnt have happened. I wish Kasey Kahne would be a tad more Aggressive.
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DJ screwed himself??? Are you nuts?
I think that first meeting with the wall compliments of Ryan pretty much took care of that for him. He was several laps down after that pretty much eliminating his chances.
Why should he let Ryan go floating into the chase knowing he'd eliminated his chances. Now Ryan's so close out of it with just 2 races left before the chase begins it's possible Ryan will encounter more problems over the next 2 weeks and he won't make it either. Sure hope Ryan don't have any trouble with the 38 this week. :rolleyes:
 
Whizzer said:
The point is, Shepherd acted like a real veteran who had a score to settle and waited until an appropriate time.
There is never a reason to take someone out if the possibility exists others will get caught up in your personal disagreement. Payback like DJ used was not a "veteran" move.
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Lol! What a joke. Shepherd was lucky no one else got caught up in that. That's the only difference between what he did and what DJ did. Luck.

Besides, when a veteran driver such as Kenny says it's a veteran move, I think I'll side with him rather than an armchair racecar driver on a discussion forum. I think in his opinion carries just a tad more clout in this case.
 
I respect Kenny and will always listen to what he has to say. Some of the young drivers need to learn a lesson and if Ryan is smart he will pay attention to the message. The next time Edwards runs into the back of someone I hope he also gets his payback. He has a bad habit of hitting people.
 
I was happy to see Kyle Petty speaking to Carl after the race. Kyle was NOT angry, but Carl acted as if he was a tad "put out" to have Kyle talk to him about their incident. I dearly love Carl, and think he is a great up and comer, but he too, has a lot to learn, and Kyle is good with things like that.

That incident about DJ walking back to the pits after a wreck still floors me. Not only was he unhappy about lack of response by the Wambulance team, but the fire crew as well. His car was merrily burning to a crispy critter in the grass and no one was doing a thing about it. Sooooooooooooo, his march back to his pits was, I think to allow himself to vent some anger and "cool down"(?) so to speak. LOL
DJ is cool, and I do believe his actions Saturday nite with Ryan Newman were justified. Perhaps not so in a Ryan fans eyes, but Ryan has been cruisin for that bruisin for a long time. He literally took DJ out of the chase by sending him into the wall, so pay backs are He!!. lol
Again, JMHO. :p
 
I'm really sorry DJ could not hang on to the car like 90 percent of the people that got bumped out of the way. Let it go........All drivers do it, I will neverforget when Jeff G. bumped Rusty for the win on the last corner about 2 years ago. To this day I hope Rusty can return the favor before he retires.
 
Steve007,

I'm sure you're not familar with the person you're calling an armchair driver.

Whizzer was racing with the old Grand National division before you were born, he did time as a driver, an official, worked with other teams as an at track crewmember and was also a flagman at a local track here in the northeast before he got involved with the Grand National team.
Quite qualified to offer an opinion.

His opinion most certainly does hold as much importance as Kenny's. Whizzer had the benefit of being in a better position to observe the incident thanks to television, not to mention the instant replay feature.

Dale Jarrett is one of the nicest people in the sport; he'll race you door handle to door handle for as long as you want and never touch your car; he might tap you once in awhile, but if he does, you can bet that it is unintentional. That is until you deliberately make a move such as Ryan Newman made at Bristol. Then Dale will make sure you know you've made a mistake by resorting to dirty driving, and what we saw last Saturday night was a perfect example of unnecessary dirty driving.
 
DJ screwed himself??? Are you nuts?
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I didnt know DJ was a bunch of laps down at that time of the Ryan incident.
I see the point your trying to making now.
 
Bucky Badger said:
I'm really sorry DJ could not hang on to the car like 90 percent of the people that got bumped out of the way. Let it go........All drivers do it, I will neverforget when Jeff G. bumped Rusty for the win on the last corner about 2 years ago. To this day I hope Rusty can return the favor before he retires.
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I hope you're kidding. Your example is by no means a valid comparison. Gordon was going for the win. Ryan had over 200 laps to go. Also, that much more than a small - move it over - bump. He creamed him!
 
Steve007 said:
Lol! What a joke. Shepherd was lucky no one else got caught up in that. That's the only difference between what he did and what DJ did. Luck.
Besides, when a veteran driver such as Kenny says it's a veteran move, I think I'll side with him rather than an armchair racecar driver on a discussion forum. I think in his opinion carries just a tad more clout in this case.
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The opinion offered re: the DJ and Ryan Newman incident was mine and mine alone. I looked at the situation and felt DJ was in the wrong. If Schrader feels differently, that is his opinion. I chose to make up my own mind. In forming the opinion, it is how I think racing should be, not necessarily in agreement with someone elses thoughts and comments, no matter who they are.

In an effort of clarity, permit me to relate the incident Steve007 considers a "joke" and "luck".

Earnhardt was running just above the centerline of the track with Shepherd on the low line. Dick Trickle passed Shepherd. According to Shepherd, "Trickle took the air off my spoiler and caused me to get into Earnhardt", and Earnhardt crashed.
At the time, there were no other cars on that section of the track. No luck was needed to avoid the wreck.
As for it being a joke, Shepherd did the right thing. Morgan was on the receiving end from Earnhardt two or three times that year and this was a payback by Shepherd. Morgan "the veteran" Shepherd, waited several weeks until the right opportunity presented itself, properly executing his pay-back in the right place, at the right time and in the right way. No one else was in danger of being involved. That was a "Veteran" move.

In this situation with DJ and Ryan, there was no urgency for retaliation. DJ could have handled it any time in the future when it might have made a greater impact on Ryan and with no danger of others being involved.

Steve007, since you think my experience is limited to being an armchair race car driver, I am curious to know where you got the information ????? I do not think we ever personally met nor have we communicated outside of this forum. Please correct me if I am wrong. Thank you.
Da WHIZZER
 
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