do teams get better engines for plate races??

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I was wondering if you are a small team like BK racing or swan or something like that. instead of running the triad or promotor engines your team runs at most tracks do you try and pony up for a TRD or yates motor for the plate races?? I think just about any car can win at these tracks if it has an engine from the big boys. The chase changing being the X factor and win and your in type deal. That could be huge for a small team if they pull off a win, which could allow them to get better stuff and make it into the top 30. AND beyond that secure big money sponsorship. It could potentially launch a team.
 
I wonder if a team can do a one off deal or is it something where they want a commitment for a certain length of time.
 
Look at the #98 team they are running a Ford this weekend which I believe is run off a lease program....partly because I believe they dont have a plate chevy yet
 
Marcingak said:
Pretty sure TRD supplies engines only to Gibbs and MWR
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I was thinking they sold to all Toyota teams with the pricing indexed to represent the quality.
 
Fordracing7 said:
Look at the #98 team they are running a Ford this weekend which I believe is run off a lease program....partly because I believe they dont have a plate chevy yet
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Right on. PPR switched to Chevy this year but run Roush-Yates Fords at the restrictor plate races still. Running Roush-Yates stuff is a lot smarter than Pro Motor Engines when you know the playing field is already leveled a good deal with the draft.

There was another team, I can't remember who at the moment, who ran HMS engines at the normal tracks but ran ECR engines at the restrictor plate races.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Right on. PPR switched to Chevy this year but run Roush-Yates Fords at the restrictor plate races still. Running Roush-Yates stuff is a lot smarter than Pro Motor Engines when you know the playing field is already leveled a good deal with the draft.

There was another team, I can't remember who at the moment, who ran HMS engines at the normal tracks but ran ECR engines at the restrictor plate races.
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I think that used to be the 78 a few years ago
 
Is this question directed at those only with trained eyes?
 
ChexOrWrex said:
Is this question directed at those only with trained eyes?
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Don't even remember who posted that, but I have to hand it to him....he nailed the soft spot in your ego.
 
Marcingak said:
Pretty sure TRD supplies engines only to Gibbs and MWR
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Greg said:
I was thinking they sold to all Toyota teams with the pricing indexed to represent the quality.
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You are right they only supply to JGR & MWR.
https://m.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/story?storyId=9341718&wjb=

When Toyota orginally started running in the cup series, I thought all of those new Toyota teams Nemechek, Baldwin etc was getting their engines from TRD at the time.

But whatever the case may have been, you are correct about the current situation.
 
Greg said:
You are right they only supply to JGR & MWR.
https://m.espn.go.com/rpm/nascar/story?storyId=9341718&wjb=

When Toyota orginally started running in the cup series, I thought all of those new Toyota teams Nemechek, Baldwin etc was getting their engines from TRD at the time.

But whatever the case may have been, you are correct about the current situation.
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TRD supplied all teams until 2008 when JGR built their own Toyota motors. TRIAD started building Toyotas in 2009, and Pro Motors did some stuff in 2010. JGR began a collaborative agreement with TRD in 2012 supplying both JGR and MWR. Six teams reduced to five of course with the NAPA crisis this year. TRD is not willing to supply more teams at this point, but it is interesting to note that they did not pick up a new sixth team after the departure of NAPA. I would bet that that spot is reserved for the potential fourth JGR team--if and when it comes to be. TRD has never offered a sliding scale based on quality--that's not the way they roll. I might also add that it has always been TRD's goal to have teams build motors, and have a big time team be the front runner--ala Hendrick and Chevy. The economic crash put TRD in a position to support its teams comprehensively. The JGR switch to TRD was more out of a technical necessity than economics, however. Just thought I would set the record straight.
 
I would think a fancy engine from one of the top teams would matter much less at a track where HP is greatly reduced and the draft is such a major factor in where a car is running.
 
mreed said:
I would think a fancy engine from one of the top teams would matter much less at a track where HP is greatly reduced and the draft is such a major factor in where a car is running.
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Good point, I think it would be more beneficial to get a chassis/body from a top team rather than an engine for a plate race. Aero>HP at plate races.

Didn't Bobby Labonte finish 4th in the 2011 Daytona 500 running a Triad motor for JTG Daugherty?
 
I don't get the impression that choosing an engine is like choosing a breakfast cereal at the grocery store . Teams sign multi year deals with car and engine manufacturers . They make the best deal they can and it wouldn't be in their best interest to jump ship from race to race . There may be one or two cars at the tail end of the field that do not have fixed deals . In general , the longer teams work with a product , the more they learn about it and the more they can get out of it . I do see how , in today's "win and you're in " Nascar , why teams might want to try a one-off deal , but I don't think it's possible.
 
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