Does the New Points System Help Jr

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Does the new points system help Jr. Under the old system he would be in danger of falling way behind both Johnson and Gordon in the championship hunt due to his injuries. Under the new system he will almost certainly be one of the teams in the top 10 and in contention for the championship.

And what about the Richmond race. The top 10 may be all locked up by then and the race would be almost meaningless.
 
You can't single Jr. out. It helps everyone from #2-#10. I think the 24 and 48 have the best shot at winning the title right now. They have been strong all year. With the 10 race deal, I am glad the title will not be wrapped up with 3 races to go.
 
Since I am a #17 fan, I am glad they changed it this year (not last year).

The big loser on this deal is #48. He'll lose a big lead. The #8 car will lose some advantage.

Once the top ten is in place, it's anyone's championship. GO #17 (or 97)! B)
 
Originally posted by Tabasco@Jul 29 2004, 01:25 PM
You can't single Jr. out. It helps everyone from #2-#10. I think the 24 and 48 have the best shot at winning the title right now. They have been strong all year. With the 10 race deal, I am glad the title will not be wrapped up with 3 races to go.
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The point is:
Last year Jr's injury would probably have put him out of the chase for the championship whereas this year due to the new format it will have little impact.
 
Obviously, Junior will have a better chance to win the championship under this system than the old system.

Under this system a driver almost 400 points up over 10th place could actually miss a race or 2 in the first 26 races and still qulaify for the Chase.

The same can be said for any injured driver who is 400 points ahead of 10th place.
 
The points race will be really boring watching 10 guys duke it out for the championship instead of at least having more drivers to have a chance. I mean if dale jarrett does make it great bit it will suck having to watch the race knowing your driver isnt in contention of winning the championship.
 
Let's see, after ALL the rule changes, the final 10 only being seperated by 5 points each, consistancy not being a factor, all the "conspiracy theories" I'll say ?????
 
you have to look at the last ten races this way (especially if your driver isn't in the C4C. Although they don't have a shot at winning the championship, they still have a good shot at winning the race. Much like Kenseth or Robby Gordon at a Busch Race. You don't have to be a championship contender to win...in fact, winning a race while not in contention would REALLY show that you have a dedicated team. I think, not sure, but we'll see how it plays out.
 
Originally posted by indyracing@Jul 30 2004, 12:31 AM
The points race will be really boring watching 10 guys duke it out for the championship instead of at least having more drivers to have a chance. I mean if dale jarrett does make it great bit it will suck having to watch the race knowing your driver isnt in contention of winning the championship.
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The way I look at it is when we get to the last 10 races, the guys in the chase will be racing against guys who don't have anything to lose. It may make it more interesting, because as esorlxaw puts it, "Much like Kenseth or Robby Gordon at a Busch Race. You don't have to be a championship contender to win..." So maybe all hope is not lost for an exciting last 10 races if your driver doesn't make it. He may surprise us all and win a race or two and show everybody that he is a strong driver and might have been a contender for the championship if it weren't for the c4c.

I really hope that that all made sense to yinz. I really need to learn to not post when I'm half asleep so that I actually have a point and its not messed up by lack of sleep. ^_^
 
I am still all-for this new points system and indyracing, how will it make it more boring? It gives 10 guys a shot, your exact point, before the guy in 10th place never has a shot at the championship, maybe, MAYBE a top 5, but thats finishing really well, I've been for the new system since they've started it.
 
A championship used to mean the driver that raced the best over an entire season. Now it will be the driver that does the best over the final 10 races. Hell, why not include all of the drivers and make it wide open for the championship since they are throwing away most of the consistency factor. Or 1 final race that would determine the champion and use the season ending points standings for the starting order. :p :rolleyes:
 
Originally posted by muggle not@Jul 30 2004, 08:27 AM
A championship used to mean the driver that raced the best over an entire season. Now it will be the driver that does the best over the final 10 races. Hell, why not include all of the drivers and make it wide open for the championship since they are throwing away most of the consistency factor. Or 1 final race that would determine the champion and use the season ending points standings for the starting order. :p :rolleyes:
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Carefully. Don't let Brian France read that....
 
Jeez, just give golden boy the cup already and the rest race for the saucer.
 
Do you think there has ever been a year with 10 races left that had 10 drivers within 50 points of each other? Heck with 10 races left has the top 10 been with in 400 points? I don't care for the new points system, but I like the fact 10 guys have a shot this far in the season. There will never be another runaway champ. That is the whole reason behind this points system. All the ones that are outside the top 10 are fighting for 1 million for finishing 11th.
 
A championship used to mean the driver that raced the best over an entire season. Now it will be the driver that does the best over the final 10 races. Hell, why not include all of the drivers and make it wide open for the championship since they are throwing away most of the consistency factor. Or 1 final race that would determine the champion and use the season ending points standings for the starting order. 
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A driver has to be having a good season to make it in the top 10.
 
The new system has promise. It definitely will put a big spoiler in the gathering up a huge lead early then just coasting to a title (by the way, how is that being consistent anyway?). To remain within 400 points or in the top ten for 26 points races (over two thirds of the season) is consistency........that argument does not wash. No one has seen how this will play out...........but some are convinced it will be a farce. Those are the negative fans that irritate the heck out of me. Just watch the season and see how it all works out........then point out the flaws. Don't invent them first and then tell me the racing will be boring because it's contrived by Brian France.
 
I'm still against this entertainment based "race fir the Championship",it might be great for ratings,but certainly not a true reflection of any one team's performance over the whole season.If this system is gonna be so great then why hasn't NASCAR also utilized this system in the Busch Series and CTS? :p
The luck factor(read DNF's) will play an ever more major role in defining the new Champion over thise final 10 races,no road course represented over those final 10 races either is absurd IMHO,as those are the most challenging track types on the curcuit.A true Champion should have to negotiate at least 1 road course in the race for the Championship. :p
 
Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2@Jul 31 2004, 01:24 AM
The new system has promise. It definitely will put a big spoiler in the gathering up a huge lead early then just coasting to a title (by the way, how is that being consistent anyway?). To remain within 400 points or in the top ten for 26 points races (over two thirds of the season) is consistency........that argument does not wash. No one has seen how this will play out...........but some are convinced it will be a farce. Those are the negative fans that irritate the heck out of me. Just watch the season and see how it all works out........then point out the flaws. Don't invent them first and then tell me the racing will be boring because it's contrived by Brian France.
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No one said that it wouldn't be a good entertainment ploy. It sure as heck does not represent the best team worthy of the championship though. It makes a farce of racing by saying that the first 10 races are not as important as the last 10 races.
 
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