Doing what he has to do

VaDirt said:
Edwards on the pole for for Sunday's race. Stewart back in 14th
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Hopefully, Stewart will finish there, too.

Ford 400 | Homestead-Miami Speedway
November 20, 2011 | Race 36 of 36

POS CAR DRIVER MAKE SPONSOR SPEED TIME BEHIND
1 99:D Carl Edwards Ford Aflac 175.467 30.775 Leader
2 56 Martin Truex Jr. Toyota NAPA Auto Parts 174.808 30.891 -0.116
3 4 Kasey Kahne Toyota Red Bull 174.582 30.931 -0.156
4 22 Kurt Busch Dodge Shell / Pennzoil 174.520 30.942 -0.167
5 2 Brad Keselowski Dodge Miller Lite 174.492 30.947 -0.172
6 17 Matt Kenseth Ford Crown Royal 174.475 30.950 -0.175
7 24 Jeff Gordon Chevrolet Drive to End Hunger 174.436 30.957 -0.182
8 16 Greg Biffle Ford 3M Novec 174.109 31.015 -0.240
9 48 Jimmie Johnson Chevrolet Lowe's 174.098 31.017 -0.242
10 11 Denny Hamlin Toyota FedEx Express 173.969 31.040 -0.265
11 88 Dale Earnhardt Jr. Chevrolet National Guard / Amp Energy 173.907 31.051 -0.276
12 43 A.J. Allmendinger Ford Best Buy 173.734 31.082 -0.307
13 6 David Ragan Ford UPS My Choice 173.678 31.092 -0.317
14 39 Ryan Newman Chevrolet U.S. Army 173.371 31.147 -0.372
15 14 Tony Stewart Chevrolet Office Depot / Mobil 1 173.333 31.154 -0.379
16 78 Regan Smith Chevrolet Furniture Row Companies 173.321 31.156 -0.381
17 33 Clint Bowyer Chevrolet Cheerios / Hamburger Helper 173.277 31.164 -0.389
18 9 Marcos Ambrose Ford Stanley 173.271 31.165 -0.390
19 18 Kyle Busch Toyota Interstate Batteries 173.249 31.169 -0.394
20 21 Trevor Bayne Ford Motorcraft / Quick Lane Tire & Auto Center 173.160 31.185 -0.410
21 29 Kevin Harvick Chevrolet Budweiser 173.155 31.186 -0.411
22 51 Landon Cassill Chevrolet Thank A Teacher Today / Security Benefit 173.094 31.197 -0.422
23 27 Paul Menard Chevrolet Duracell / Menards 173.083 31.199 -0.424
24 83 Brian Vickers Toyota Red Bull 172.966 31.220 -0.445
25 5 Mark Martin Chevrolet GoDaddy.com 172.889 31.234 -0.459
26 1 Jamie McMurray Chevrolet Bass Pro Shops / Tracker 172.701 31.268 -0.493
27 42 Juan Montoya Chevrolet Target 172.656 31.276 -0.501
28 00 David Reutimann Toyota Aaron's Dream Machine 172.425 31.318 -0.543
29 84 Cole Whitt Toyota Kangaroo Express 172.392 31.324 -0.549
30 55 J.J. Yeley Ford Ingersoll Rand 171.991 31.397 -0.622
31 31 Jeff Burton Chevrolet Caterpillar 171.821 31.428 -0.653
32 20 Joey Logano Toyota The Home Depot 171.685 31.453 -0.678
33 66 Michael McDowell Toyota HP Racing LLC 171.059 31.568 -0.793
34 135 Dave Blaney Chevrolet Big Red 171.027 31.574 -0.799
35 30 David Stremme Chevrolet Inception Motorsports 170.881 31.601 -0.826
36 47 Bobby Labonte Toyota Reese Towpower 170.881 31.601 -0.826
37 87 Joe Nemechek Toyota AMFMEnergy.com / Pellet & Wood Stoves 170.578 31.657 -0.882
38 34 David Gilliland Ford Front Row Motorsports 170.143 31.738 -0.963
39 71 Mike Bliss Ford School Media 169.940 31.776 -1.001
40 13 Casey Mears Toyota Hard Rock Vodka 169.929 31.778 -1.003
41 46 Scott Speed Ford Green Stuff Absorbent 169.529 31.853 -1.078
42 7 Reed Sorenson Dodge Speed Energy / Mapei 169.359 31.885 -1.110
43 38 Travis Kvapil Ford Long John Silver's 169.178 31.919 -1.144
44 37 Mike Skinner Ford Koma Unwind 168.587 32.031 -1.256
45 192 Scott Riggs Chevrolet BBI Waste Industries / Melling Engine Parts 167.775 32.186 -1.411
46 32 T.J. Bell* Ford Green Smoke 167.707 32.199 -1.424
47 193 Grant Enfinger Chevrolet Hewes Concrete Polishing 165.807 32.568 -1.793
48 36 Geoffrey Bodine Chevrolet Luke & Associates 162.842 33.161 -2.386
49 192 Dennis Setzer Chevrolet BBI Waste Industries / Melling Engine Parts - - -

+ Set by Owner Points
* Denotes Rookie
 
Stewart Fan said:
Tony doesn't have any speed this week. Unless Edwards has trouble the title is his.
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Not true. I was watching practice and even though Carl was at the top of the speed charts, they're average times were very similar and I expect a battle on Sunday.
 
BobbyFord said:
Not true. I was watching practice and even though Carl was at the top of the speed charts, they're average times were very similar and I expect a battle on Sunday.
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I hope so. My money is on Stewart.
 
Carl is the man to beat, and I wouldn't put it past Stewart to put him into the wall.
 
gotta say regardless of who wins (go tony!), they are certainly a different type of racer than jimmie.
 
SpeedPagan said:
C'mon, the dude admitted that he would wreck his own mother to win the championship. Do I think he'll wreck Carl if it means winning the Championship, yes I do.
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Yep. I'm glad someone was paying attention. Tonight, we saw Carl try to wreck a guy for racing hard, and that was just to win a NW race. Now Tony knows where the line is. :D
 
Am I the only person that couldn't care less which of 'em win it?

I think, however, either of them will do what it takes...neither of them is known as exactly being "stand up" "ethical" types....
 
Gordon_Fan24 said:
Am I the only person that couldn't care less which of 'em win it?

I think, however, either of them will do what it takes...neither of them is known as exactly being "stand up" "ethical" types....
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Yep.

Sorry Jeffy didn't make the cut if that is what you are not happy about. But Jeff "was" a great driver. I still like him, but he's pretty much done Championship wise.
 
I just can't believe that tomorrow's race signify an end to an era.
 
I think it’s going to be a clean race.

If I am wiping a guy out to win the points, the plan would have been to do it at Phoenix, with and the emphasis being that “we were just racing hard, man I hated it, ain’t it a shame”.

Their going be threatened with their life to stay in line tomorrow, the secret service may be on duty to enforce matters, and I am not speaking of guarding the first ladies.

If either crosses the line, the heat, rage, and backlash will be too incredible to face. It is just too tight of a package to manage in one day; forever the 2011 title would note “won it by taking Edwards or Stewart out in the closing laps. It won’t be the 1919 Black Sox, but still a tainted moment still the same
 
Greg said:
If I am wiping a guy out to win the points, the plan would have been to do it at Phoenix, with and the emphasis being that “we were just racing hard, man I hated it, ain’t it a shame”."
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RACING HARD! That's been my point all along Greg. If their is contact while racing hard, or one guy uses the bump and run or the other guy blocks, how will the other guy react.

All it took for Carl to attempt a cheap shot last night was the RACE LEADER running 'his' line. Brad wasn't even blocking at that point. Instead of doing a crossover, Carl tried to bump him to the wall.

I really hope this ends with those 2 racing side by side in the closing laps. Tony wont put up with Carl's nonsense, and it could get ugly.
 
KingGlamis said:
Yep.

Sorry Jeffy didn't make the cut if that is what you are not happy about. But Jeff "was" a great driver. I still like him, but he's pretty much done Championship wise.
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How about it has nothing to do with Gordon, instead my dislike for the two drivers who are up for it.....

But my point of my post is that I believe either of them will do ANYTHING to win it, my not caring was just a side note....
 
He probably won't "take him out" but I can definitely see him "move" Carl out of the way. We shall see in a little bit...
 
Stewart Fan said:
Plus, he knows if he does take him out Roush is gonna send another one of his cars after him.
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I wouldn't be surprise if the other cars would either help, or hinder the two contenders. It should be an interesting race, that's for sure.
 
SpeedPagan said:
I wouldn't be surprise if the other cars would either help, or hinder the two contenders. It should be an interesting race, that's for sure.
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I would hope, for the sake of good competition, everyone treats these guys equally.
 
Stewart Fan said:
Plus, he knows if he does take him out Roush is gonna send another one of his cars after him.
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I think NASCAR is watching close enough that wont be an issue.....there's enough cameras on these guys they can't even pick their nose's.

SpeedPagan said:
I wouldn't be surprise if the other cars would either help, or hinder the two contenders. It should be an interesting race, that's for sure.
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It's called racing each other hard not helping or hindering :D

VaDirt said:
I would hope, for the sake of good competition, everyone treats these guys equally.
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I really hope so too butt in my definetion of equal it means you race everyone has hard as you can no matter Who or What their running for....I hate it when a driver lays over for another "because he's in The Chase"
Race hard and clean!
 
FlFlash said:
I think NASCAR is watching close enough that wont be an issue.....there's enough cameras on these guys they can't even pick their nose's.
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True, But if Newman wrecks Edwards Nascar can't do anything to Stewart. Same if Biffle takes out Tony.
 
FlFlash said:
I really hope so too butt in my definetion of equal it means you race everyone has hard as you can no matter Who or What their running for....I hate it when a driver lays over for another "because he's in The Chase"
Race hard and clean!
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Well said. Now they need to work out what is clean or dirty, because it has to change from the gentlemans agreements of the past 6 years. They need to go back to the days of the door banging, bump and run, don't take sheet racing we used to see.

Tony seems ready, but Carl is Carl, so we may see if Carl only knows how to dish it out or can he take it without freaking out.
 
Gordon_Fan24 said:
How about it has nothing to do with Gordon, instead my dislike for the two drivers who are up for it.....

But my point of my post is that I believe either of them will do ANYTHING to win it, my not caring was just a side note....
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Assumptions are risky but....


As a Gordon fan, I assume you were good with Gordon's skillful use of the bump and run, earlier in his career.


If moving a guy is good for winning races or ok, I would think if the same race/conditions scenarios are working in the Miami finale, it's good or great too.



Disclaimer: I realize this is a limited scenario, as in a bump and run only.
 
KingGlamis said:
Glad to see I called it correctly!
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Did you notice during the race, well, during the rain delay, where Tony was calm and ****y, and Carl didn't want to be interviewed? Yup, Tony was in his head, and the 99 team was nervous.
 
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