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Mr Jeff Gordon just snuck back into the top 10 in the points standings with his showing at Bristol. He got 10 bonus points for leading the most laps. You just can't keep a good man down.
 
At the beginning of the year you pretty much had to say that Jeff would be in the top 10! He is a good driver and there's nothing else to say...
 
I really don't get the feeling that he will just dominate the field like earlier in his career. But then I didn't really think he would win the Cup in 2001 until over half-way through the season. He has really run well in the last several races but had a lousy peice of luck in each of them to keep him from winning. Sooner or later, I really feel that team will get a few breaks and then it should get interesting. That team is really coming together. Pit stop times are more like the old days (14.6 for 4 tires, gas and a wedge adjustment). I don't think he will run away from guys like Kenseth, Busch, and the like. But, I am really starting to get a good feeling about what they are doing.
 
I don't think anybody will ever dominate like Gordon and Evernham did. There's just too many good teams now. Cal Wells and Chip Ganassi are making their presence known. Roush has started to find some consistency will all of his teams. It just keeps getting more competitive every year.
 
I think its about time! he just needs a little luck and he can break the top 5! i don't know if this is his year though..
 
All I have to say is:
'WE ARE BACK IN THE GAME PEOPLE"
:bounce: :bounce: :bounce: :bounce:
 
I don't think anybody will ever dominate like Gordon and Evernham did
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right now kurt busch is doin that, last 8 races 6 finishes of 2nd or better, lets see how long he can keep up this pace for
 
Originally posted by toddgee24@Mar 25 2003, 04:52 PM
I don't think anybody will ever dominate like Gordon and Evernham did
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right now kurt busch is doin that, last 8 races 6 finishes of 2nd or better, lets see how long he can keep up this pace for
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Look me up when he gets 13 wins in one year.
 
Actually Busch is posting Gordon-like numbers at the moment.If there IS anyone who can match Gordon's early career performance,it is gonna be Kurt Busch.


And I would never count Jeff out of the title fight.He still is the mark to shoot for.
 
As each race passes, it is harder and harder to gain a spot in the standings, but easy to lose them. Top 10 is okay, but they really need to string together good finishes in the next 6 races at the rate Matt and Kurt are going. All teams will have trouble, it's just how you rebound. Matt looks like he will be one tough cookie to beat. Busch might get too ****y to reel in the cup. The 24 team has been doing fine, but not up to championship caliber in my book. They are capable of course, so we will just wait and see what the next 6 races deliver.
 
Look me up when he gets 13 wins in one year.
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he might not get that many wins, actually i duobt he will, but the way he is goin he will dominate like gordon did
 
Originally posted by toddgee24@Mar 25 2003, 05:22 PM
Look me up when he gets 13 wins in one year.
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he might not get that many wins, actually i duobt he will, but the way he is goin he will dominate like gordon did
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How do you "dominate like Gordon did" but not win as many races as he did?
 
i personally dont think you have to win to be able to say you are dominating the feild, say busch dont win another race this year, but is consistently in the top 5 almost every race, and wins the championship, i would say he dominated. but i do understand what your saying, sure the more wins you have the more it seems like your dominating, but its important where you finish when you dont win, and that will tell you if you dominated over the year. example terry labonte's last championship, gordon had more wins them him but didnt get the championship, im not saying terry dominated, but just using that as an example saying that wins arent really that important
 
It's not the wins that are important; it's the top-5s and top-10s. In nearly every year since the implementation of the current point system, the championship has led the tour in at least one of those two categories. I'd prefer a point system that emphasized winning more, but we don't have that, and you have to do what's necessary with the system you've got - which, in this case, is finishing in the top-10 nearly every week.
 
found a better example jeff green 2000 busch series champion, yes he had 6 wins but had 25 top 5's and 27 top 10's and won the champioship by over 600 points, the next closest person for top 5's had 14
 
Well Busch has more wins per races run than Goron did at the same time in his career.That in itself means nothing,BUT at least in theory,Busch could tie or surpass Jeff.Just a possibiltity.
 
in jeffs first few seasons tho he didnt do that well, then things started picking up and thats where he got seperated from the others
 
Lets see if Busch can keep up though.. Gordon has won several races every season(almost) and lets see if Busch in the next 5 years is able to keep his car in the front..
 
Agreed Zekk.Even a Busch loyalist like myself would be silly to compare Bush to Gordon at this particular stage.Busch just hasnt shown---yet---he has the staying power Jeff has.But I firmly believe that barring a catastrophe Kurt Busch has the potential to bypass Jeff Gordon in victories and titles.I ran a post on another forum a year and a half ago that in ten years Busch will be the 'new' Jeff Gordon.And I dont see any reason to change that theory now.Not at all a bash of Gordon.....but just like all the greats get eclipsed in some way--like Jeff did Earnhardt,for example--someone will bypass Jeff.
 
yes, some one will bypass Jeff.. and if its Busch then i'm glad for Busch.. At least he's in my top 5 drivers..
 
I will not bash Kurt Busch. He obviously has a great deal of talent. However, I don't think comparing him or anyone to Jeff is fair to that person until they have at least 2 titles to their name. In actuallity, I really only think you can compare two guys accomplishments to those of Jeff Gordon. Richard Petty and Dale Earnhardt Sr are the only other guys to win more than 3 cups. The comparison ends there for me.
 
True enough.....but why not just compare those two together then>Why include Gordon in that comparision.Lets say the deciding mark is 5 titles instead of three?Or how about more than two?Or how about Cale and Bobby or David?Certainly David Pearson bypasses both Earnhardt and Gordon?Remember the WC title is a fairly recent 'holy-grail' for WC drivers---at one time Pearson didnt even consider it worth running the full schedule for!Or He may have had eight.

I think Gordon is one hell of a driver....but the gap from Gordon to Pearson or Allison is much greater than the gap from Busch to Gordon!Not a bash,just an opinion.But people do a disservice to other great drivers with all this Earnhardt-Petty-Gordon talk.
 
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