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What is the Duel?
By NASCAR.COM
February 7, 2009
09:45 PM EST
The Gatorade Duel at Daytona is the largest-attended weekday sporting event in America. The two 150-mile qualifying races will determine the starting lineup for the Daytona 500.

From 1959-1968, the races were 100 miles in length; beginning in 1969, the distance was extended to 125 miles; and the current length was implemented in 2005.

The Daytona 500 uses a different qualifying procedure than any other race in the world. On qualifying day, the fastest two cars will solidify their starting spots for the Daytona 500, earning the pole and outside pole positions.

The fastest qualifier will earn the pole for both the Daytona 500 and the first 150-mile Gatorade Duel qualifying race. In addition to the polesitter, the odd-number positions (1st, 3rd, 5th, etc.) of the highest-ranked 35 finishers in the previous year's Sprint Cup Series car owner points standings will be assigned to the first qualifier.

The second-fastest qualifier earns the outside pole for the Daytona 500 and will start on the pole for the second 150-mile Gatorade Duel qualifying race. In addition to the second-fastest qualifier, the even-number positions (2nd, 4th, 6th, etc.) of the highest-ranked 35 finishers in the previous year's series owner points standings will be assigned to the second qualifier.

The lineup for each qualifying race will be set based upon the qualifying speeds in the time trials for all cars, including those who are among the highest-ranked 35 in the final 2007 car owner point standings. The highest-ranked 35 designation does not determine the car's starting position, only the assignment of its 150-mile qualifying event.

Additional cars that were not among the highest-ranked 35 in the previous year's series owner points will be alternated between the first and second 150-mile qualifying events using an odd-even format. The odd-number positions will be assigned to the first qualifier while the even-number positions will be assigned to the second qualifier. The odd-even positions are not determined by where the car qualified in the overall field, but their specific qualifying order among those cars not part of the highest-ranked 35 group.

A maximum of 66 cars will be permitted to compete between the two qualifying races, and all cars must compete in one of these events to be eligible for the Daytona 500.

Starting positions for the Daytona 500 will be designated for the highest-ranked 35 positions from the previous year's series owner point standings from each qualifier, the two-highest finishing cars in each qualifier not among that highest-ranked 35 group and the two front-row qualifiers. The balance of the 43-car field will be filled by the fastest remaining qualifiers who have not earned a starting position, with the exception of the 43rd position which will be assigned to an eligible former or current series champion. Should there not be an eligible champion, the position will be assigned to the next fastest qualifier not in the field.

Dale Earnhardt leads all drivers with 12 victories in this event, including a remarkable 10-year winning streak from 1990-99. Cale Yarborough ranks second with six wins.

Only seven times has the winner of a 125-mile race gone on to win the Daytona 500. Fireball Roberts was the first to do so, in 1962. Yarborough did it twice, in 1977 and 1984. Bill Elliott (1985), Bobby Allison (1988), Sterling Marlin (1995) and Earnhardt (1998) also have accomplished the feat.
 
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What is the Duel?
By NASCAR.COM
Starting positions for the Daytona 500 will be designated for the highest-ranked 35 positions from the previous year's series owner point standings from each qualifier, the two-highest finishing cars in each qualifier not among that highest-ranked 35 group and the two front-row qualifiers. The balance of the 43-car field will be filled by the fastest remaining qualifiers who have not earned a starting position, with the exception of the 43rd position which will be assigned to an eligible former or current series champion. Should there not be an eligible champion, the position will be assigned to the next fastest qualifier not in the field.

OK, I STILL don't get this part. It makes it sound like it's set by owners' points instead of how they do in each duel. It has to include how well they finish in each duel and how they combine them for starting order, even if they are in the top 35 and on down?? :confused::confused:
 
OK, I STILL don't get this part. It makes it sound like it's set by owners' points instead of how they do in each duel. It has to include how well they finish in each duel and how they combine them for starting order, even if they are in the top 35 and on down?? :confused::confused:
I wish they would've made an exception on the top 35 rule for Daytona.

Make them earn it.
 
I wish they would've made an exception on the top 35 rule for Daytona.

Make them earn it.
agreed.

the front row is locked in, Mark Martin and Martin Truex Junior, based on speed.

The quickest 3 outside the top 35 are locked in. If any of the 3 wreck out in the duels, they still get to run the 500, starting from tail end.

The top 33 in owners points are in the 500 based on their duel finishing position.

front row
{the top 33 in owners points, in order of duel finishes} AND {the 4 fastest NOT-top 33 in owners points, in order of duel finishes} AND {Stewart, T. Labonte, and Kvapil} (intermixed, based on duel finishes)
That's the top 42.

The last spot is either Bill Elliott/most recent champion OR the 4th quickest not-top 35 car (Boris I think?).
 
agreed.

the front row is locked in, Mark Martin and Martin Truex Junior, based on speed.

The quickest 3 outside the top 35 are locked in. If any of the 3 wreck out in the duels, they still get to run the 500, starting from tail end.

The top 33 in owners points are in the 500 based on their duel finishing position.

front row
{the top 33 in owners points, in order of duel finishes}, {the 4 fastest NOT-top 33 in owners points, in order of duel finishes}, {Stewart, T. Labonte, and Kvapil} (intermixed, based on duel finishes)
That's the top 42.

The last spot is either Bill Elliott/most recent champion OR the 4th quickest not-top 35 car (Boris I think?).
And Regan Smith is the driver sitting comfortably, because Tony Stewart will be in the Daytona 500. If Stewart races his way in, Regan Smith is in.
 
I wish they would've made an exception on the top 35 rule for Daytona.

Make them earn it.

No doubt. OUghta be like it used to be. Top 2 are locked in, the rest race their way in. shouldn't need to be an engineer to figure out who in and who's out come Thursday.
 
I wish they would've made an exception on the top 35 rule for Daytona.

Make them earn it.

I agree. Thats what makes the Indy 500 so special. The drivers have to earn the starting position. Its not given to them.;)
 
Yea... I think the top 3 go or go Homers are locked in, and the rest of them ....it's all up to the results of the duel.
 
what happen if pole sitter wrecks out in 150

I was curious if anyone could tell me what happens if either of the front row drivers gets caught up in a wreck during the 150's? Obviously they go to a back up car but do they still get to start up front or do they go to the rear of the field? I think the front row starters shouldnt even have run the 150's at all. I mean they already proved themselves so what does running the 150 accomplish for them?
 
I was curious if anyone could tell me what happens if either of the front row drivers gets caught up in a wreck during the 150's? Obviously they go to a back up car but do they still get to start up front or do they go to the rear of the field? I think the front row starters shouldnt even have run the 150's at all. I mean they already proved themselves so what does running the 150 accomplish for them?

track time, drafting partners, and practice
 
I was curious if anyone could tell me what happens if either of the front row drivers gets caught up in a wreck during the 150's? Obviously they go to a back up car but do they still get to start up front or do they go to the rear of the field? I think the front row starters shouldnt even have run the 150's at all. I mean they already proved themselves so what does running the 150 accomplish for them?
agreed
 
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