Earnhardt Jr.-Busch Richmond Rivalry

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Do you think the Dale Earnhardt Jr.-Kyle Busch rivalry will happen again this weekend at Richmond? Seems like these two can't get away from each other at this track.


Round Three!
Written by Jay W Pennell
HardcoreRaceFans.com
Thursday, 30 April 2009 13:23

When the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series rolled into the Richmond International Raceway last May, it appeared Dale Earnhardt Jr. might break his two-year winless streak and celebrate in front of an eager crowd. The only problem? Kyle Busch had something to say about it.

After the most dominant car of the evening, Denny Hamlin, was out of contention, Earnhardt Jr. and Busch were left to decide it amongst themselves. Racing hard in the closing laps of the race, the two drivers – one a fan favorite, the other a driver fan’s love to hate – battled side-by-side for the top-spot. Lap after lap the two fought tooth and nail as the fans in the stands stood and their feet and cheered them both on. Then it happened.

As they drove into the third turn, Busch – who was on the bottom – drove too hard into the corner, bobbled and made contact with Earnhardt Jr. The No. 88 Chevrolet spun into the outside wall as a cloud of white smoke rose into the night sky – possibly the steam from under Junior’s helmet.

“I wouldn’t say that was intentional going into (Turn 3), because if he wanted to, he could have just thrown me into the fence off of (Turn 2),” Earnhardt explained following the event. “We had been racing each other earlier and had no problems. I have done that before. That is what happens if he got loose underneath me.”

“To say that I took a win away from him, you know, it’s hard to say,” Busch added. “If I wanted to do it deliberately, I would have waited for the last lap where I probably could have still won the race. We just didn’t give each other enough room getting into Turn 3 and, you know, I didn’t feel like I slipped, but I mean, we just kind of banged simultaneously, and then that’s when I got loose and got corrected and he was gone.”

With Junior now out of contention thanks to the contact made by Busch, Junior Nation let the driver of the No. 18 Toyota Camry know their displeasure by giving him the one-finger salute and, unfortunately, throwing beer cans onto the track. (Please fans, never throw anything onto the racing surface.)

“Well, for some reason, [the fans] are awfully confused,” Busch went on to say with a smile, “because they were giving me the number one sign the last 10 laps of the race, and I was in second place still. So I don’t know whether that’s too many Dale Junior Budweisers or they are Amped up or what. It’s just unfortunate circumstances for him because he didn’t get a win, and for me because now I’ve got to put up with it.”

When the series returned for the Chevy Rock & Roll 400 in September, much of the talk in the garage and in the grandstands focused on the incident that took place earlier that year. With weather pushing back the last race of the regular season to Sunday, the track was hot and slick and the competition was fierce.

With Busch in the lead, Earnhardt Jr.’s car came on strong and he began to make a charge to the front. By Lap 211 the No. 88 was filling up Busch’s rear view mirror. As the pair drove into the first corner, Busch threw a block and Junior locked up the right front. Again the two made contact and this time it was Busch whose No. 18 was sent spinning into the outside wall – much to the delight of the fans.

Was it payback or just racing? There is only one person that truly knows the answer to that, and judging by his careful answer following the race we’ll never truly know.

"It certainly is ironic," Earnhardt admitted. "He's racing hard. He was up front leading and I felt like I was a little quicker and was gaining on him a little bit on each corner and I was on the bottom real tight and that I wasn't going to get by him. So I moved up to get next to him and race him hard and got into the quarter panel and spun him out. It was an accident - that's it.

"Well, I think if I wreck somebody, I ain't going to leave him in good enough shape to come back and get me in the same race,” Earnhardt Jr. explained. “So that wasn't really my intentions. If I wanted to, I really ain't never wrecked anybody on purpose, I can go back and remember a couple of times but if I wanted to do it, I would do it really, really good.”

"I knew he was on my quarter panel,” Busch admitted, “but you know, I tried to make sure that I was leaving enough room down there. So, if there was a chance for a mistake, that he had enough room to gather it back up, but unfortunately there wasn't enough room there and we got together.

"Was that revenge? Who knows."

Now as the series is set to return to the Richmond International Raceway it will be interesting to watch how these two drivers race against one another. Earnhardt Jr. has struggled for much of the season and has caught a bit of flack and criticism from the fans, NASCAR and the media for one of the first times in his career, but is carrying the momentum of a second-place finish with him.

“I learned to get around short tracks racing at Myrtle Beach (S.C.),” said Earnhardt JR. “I look forward to going back to Richmond and Saturday night racing. The National Guard/AMP Energy Chevrolet was running good at Talladega. It ran up front. We’ll continue that momentum this weekend.”

For Busch, the season got off to a bang, but has fizzled over the last few weeks. Carrying the Combos colors this weekend, Busch is looking to change his luck for the better.

“I’m just hoping we can find some good luck. It seems like we’ve had a lot of bad luck the last several weeks,” Busch explained. “At Richmond, you try to be easy on the brakes getting in, so you don’t lock up getting into the corner or get too loose getting into the corner. It’s really particular there. The center (of the corner) always seems to be a little tight with these cars. And the exit, today, has been so loose. Nobody has any forward bite coming up off the corner, so it’s pretty bad. That should make for a pretty interesting race. It’s a fun short track. It’s pretty fast and it usually spreads out, and you’ll get a lot of grooves to choose from. You can pretty much count on the usual exciting short track racing when you go there.”

Whether these two come together once again this weekend is yet to be seen. Two of the sport’s most talented and popular drivers, another incident between Earnhardt Jr. and Busch may lead to one of the greatest rivalries in recent memory. So, keep an eye out this weekend as the stars of NASCAR shine under the lights in Richmond.
 
During "Race 26" last year:

Jamie Little: "Do you remember what happened here in the Spring race?"

Tony Eury, Jr.: "Yeah, that's the night Kyle Busch became the most hated driver in NASCAR."

:XXROFL:
 
Let's hope that these two can just write those races off as experience and let it go at that. The way things have been going for these guys, neither one of them needs to get into trouble on Saturday Night.
 
Hey Bigdaddy, you going to answer the questions about your racing resume or not????
 
Hey Bigdaddy, you going to answer the questions about your racing resume or not????

Just waht do you want to know? If I get around to it, I will. If not, I could really care less.
 
Well, you stated you've talked to drivers, crew chiefs and owners about the status of nascar today. You said you've driven faster then the drivers do today. You said you drove Talladega.

You've been asked several times for proof not only by me but by others and everytime you fail to respond.

So BD, are you going to get off the pot or what? Right now your credibility is sub zero with me.

TRL, I didn't want to go public but if you still have my email with the Nascar letter please post it. It'll prove I'm not the phony here.
 
Well, you stated you've talked to drivers, crew chiefs and owners about the status of nascar today. You said you've driven faster then the drivers do today. You said you drove Talladega.

You've been asked several times for proof not only by me but by others and everytime you fail to respond.

So BD, are you going to get off the pot or what? Right now your credibility is sub zero with me.

TRL, I didn't want to go public but if you still have my email with the Nascar letter please post it. It'll prove I'm not the phony here.


Here, allow me to do a public service and translate his post in to what he's actually saying;):

Just waht do you want to know? If I get around to it, I will. If not, I could really care less.

Translation:
Bigdaddy's ass ---->> (*)
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<-----Bigdaddy talking out of it.
 
Shrub vs Lil E. Sounds like a bunch of whocaresidont to me.:beerbang:
 
Well, you stated you've talked to drivers, crew chiefs and owners about the status of nascar today. You said you've driven faster then the drivers do today. You said you drove Talladega.

You've been asked several times for proof not only by me but by others and everytime you fail to respond.

So BD, are you going to get off the pot or what? Right now your credibility is sub zero with me.

TRL, I didn't want to go public but if you still have my email with the Nascar letter please post it. It'll prove I'm not the phony here.

Does Richards Petty's Driving School count? :D
 
Does Richards Petty's Driving School count? :D

ROFLMAO!!! I'm a little tired of him stating he KNOWS all these things because he was a driver and if he had any class, he wouldn't throw those things out there if he's not going to put up or shut up. In other words, stop using your supposed "knowledge because of your experience" as a reference if you're not going to reveal what that experience is. More and more it sounds like someone who likes to make big claims when all their experience is probably all just in their imagination.
 
ROFLMAO!!! I'm a little tired of him stating he KNOWS all these things because he was a driver and if he had any class, he wouldn't throw those things out there if he's not going to put up or shut up. In other words, stop using your supposed "knowledge because of your experience" as a reference if you're not going to reveal what that experience is. More and more it sounds like someone who likes to make big claims when all their experience is probably all just in their imagination.
Sorry biggy, racing on the tracks on rFactor doesn't count. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, for $25 on opening day, we could have driven The Glen for three PACED laps. Too bad we missed it or I could be an "expert." LOL
 
Yeah, for $25 on opening day, we could have driven The Glen for three PACED laps. Too bad we missed it or I could be an "expert." LOL

I've met Barack Obama - that doesn't make me an expert on politics. :rolleyes:
 
The race car beside the horsey at K-mart doesn't count either,,,:D
 
I've met Barack Obama - that doesn't make me an expert on politics. :rolleyes:

You're asking for trouble in this forum even talking about Obama. That's why I stay OUT of the politics thread. LOL Yeah, I'm from a BLUE state. heh heh
 
You're asking for trouble in this forum even talking about Obama. That's why I stay OUT of the politics thread. LOL Yeah, I'm from a BLUE state. heh heh
You've gotta remember, I'm just 15 miles away from DC and I go to DC every weekend.

Yeah, it's that bad here to. Honestly, I'm more afraid of some of these right wing extremists. People who used to be completely sane and rational have just gone over the edge lately. I'm afraid someone's going to lose their job and go be pissed off at "Barack the Socialist" (socialists provide healthcare and make "needs" avaliable and affordable - "from one according to his abilities to one according to his needs") and shoot up the mall to prove a point (see, Pittsburgh).
 
Yeah, for $25 on opening day, we could have driven The Glen for three PACED laps. Too bad we missed it or I could be an "expert." LOL
TMS lets you run 5 laps behind the pace car at 65-70 MPH for some nominal fee, 3/4 of which goes to speedway children's charity.

or something like that.
 
i'm sure they will both race hard which is what i expect from all drivers. racing for revenge is racing to lose.
 
Here I'll post what Mr. BigDady sent me in private and you guys be the judge of whether this guy is worthy or not:

I was involved with Naqscar in 1968-1972. I ran a few of the old "Grand American" races, and one "Grand National West" race. I never won anything except a few local track events. I also worked for a Nascar team back then. That is all you get. By the way, don't dare come to a West Coast race and have me find out about it. If you are stupid enogh to do so, I will call you out. You had better have your health insurance card with you. You will need it. I did this for a living. Putting big mouths like you in their place.
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Nice huh? Well i guess that make him an expert doesn't it?!!:sarcasm:
 
Here I'll post what Mr. BigDady sent me in private and you guys be the judge of whether this guy is worthy or not:

I was involved with Naqscar in 1968-1972. I ran a few of the old "Grand American" races, and one "Grand National West" race. I never won anything except a few local track events. I also worked for a Nascar team back then. That is all you get. By the way, don't dare come to a West Coast race and have me find out about it. If you are stupid enogh to do so, I will call you out. You had better have your health insurance card with you. You will need it. I did this for a living. Putting big mouths like you in their place.
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Nice huh? Well i guess that make him an expert doesn't it?!!:sarcasm:


Ooooooooo, that last part sounds real skeeerry.:rolleyes:
 
Here I'll post what Mr. BigDady sent me in private and you guys be the judge of whether this guy is worthy or not:

By the way, don't dare come to a West Coast race and have me find out about it. If you are stupid enogh to do so, I will call you out. You had better have your health insurance card with you. You will need it. I did this for a living. Putting big mouths like you in their place.

Lol, that's an ass of a thing to say.
 
Now wait a minute. He says he ran in Nasqcar, not Nascar.
I'm still trying to find stats of when the series he mentioned ran at Talladega.He said he ran there remember? And those cars back then ran faster than those of today?
Hog wash.

In all seriousness. I've been on many different forums over the years. I've seen others who acted like BD, bluff and bluster, and I admit to pulling his chain. He made statements, I asked him to prove it, he never has. The anonymity of using a user name vs your real name plus hiding behind a keyboard miles away gives some a false sense if bravdo. Things are typed that would never be said face to face.

IMHO he has made a serious threat to you, it should not be tolerated.
 
A quick google search shows making threats of bodiliy harm on the internet to be illegal, it's a fed crime.
 
Here I'll post what Mr. BigDady sent me in private and you guys be the judge of whether this guy is worthy or not:

I was involved with Naqscar in 1968-1972. I ran a few of the old "Grand American" races, and one "Grand National West" race. I never won anything except a few local track events. I also worked for a Nascar team back then. That is all you get. By the way, don't dare come to a West Coast race and have me find out about it. If you are stupid enogh to do so, I will call you out. You had better have your health insurance card with you. You will need it. I did this for a living. Putting big mouths like you in their place.
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Nice huh? Well i guess that make him an expert doesn't it?!!:sarcasm:

OK, so if he was involved from 1968-1972, that would make him what, somewhere around 59 or 60 then, right? :confused: I only base that on him being somewhere around 18 at the time. I think that we are all missing out on a great opportunity to learn things from a legend in our favorite sport. Can someone direct me to his wikipedia page? I didn't catch that name or number though. I don't have much to go on. :rolleyes:
 
OK, so if he was involved from 1968-1972, that would make him what, somewhere around 59 or 60 then, right? :confused: I only base that on him being somewhere around 18 at the time. I think that we are all missing out on a great opportunity to learn things from a legend in our favorite sport. Can someone direct me to his wikipedia page? I didn't catch that name or number though. I don't have much to go on. :rolleyes:

Yeh I'd like to look up his stats too......:XXROFL:
And no I'm not threatened ....I find this all rather amusing.:D
 
And you idiots wonder why I will not give you any more info. Boy are you guys stupid. None of you can be trusted. I will be glad to take you clowns on one on one anytime. I see that intelligence does not run real deep in here.
 
And you idiots wonder why I will not give you any more info. Boy are you guys stupid. None of you can be trusted. I will be glad to take you clowns on one on one anytime. I see that intelligence does not run real deep in here.

Why would you want to remain here with idiots who are stupid and can't be trusted? Oh, we're also clowns who according to you lack intelligence. If I was you I'd leave.:sarcasm:

Can you ever post without name calling or bragging about how great you are?
 
And you idiots wonder why I will not give you any more info. Boy are you guys stupid. None of you can be trusted. I will be glad to take you clowns on one on one anytime. I see that intelligence does not run real deep in here.

You sure do work hard at trying to make everyone in So Cal look like fools.

Speaking of the obvious, how would you know how deep the intellect runs here? You have to have some to recognize it and without question you have proved that you know very little. You are trying to force feed your opinions down everyone's throat as fact, and now you're offended because everyone is smarter than you and don't buy your BS?

I go to Irwindale on a real regular basis, I'd be glad take you up on your
If you are stupid enogh to do so, I will call you out. You had better have your health insurance card with you. You will need it. I did this for a living. Putting big mouths like you in their place.
but the fact is My money is on your being a no show, cowards like you only threaten.

The style of your posts remind me of someone that used to post here before under another name. They turned out to be a coward too and was only brave hiding behind their keyboard.



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And you idiots wonder why I will not give you any more info. Boy are you guys stupid. None of you can be trusted. I will be glad to take you clowns on one on one anytime. I see that intelligence does not run real deep in here.

A couple more posts like this one, and you just might find yourself on a VERY short leash. If you can't make a post without calling the members here names, then you just need to take your marbles and find another game somewhere else. There are some quite intelligent people that reside here on this forum, several with racing backgrounds as a matter of fact, and they don't go all over the forum degrading the other members who are just bystanders and spectators of the sport of Nascar. Feel free to send me PM if you can't be cordial in your response on the open forum. Thanks.

Carry on with the discussion folks. ;)
 
Junior is going to have to put the hammer down and get his car up front to have a rivalry with Busch. Can't catch him when you are a lap down in 27th. What a sophmore year at Hendricks!
 
Speaking of Dale Jr. and short tracks, is that new track he invested in down in Alabama being built to be a NASCAR venue out of the gate?
 
Speaking of Dale Jr. and short tracks, is that new track he invested in down in Alabama being built to be a NASCAR venue out of the gate?

I'd rather NASCAR race there than at Talladega.
 
I like Talladega, but thats neither here nor there.

75,000 just seems like alot of seating for a short track(or any track) unless it gets a Sprint Cup race. I would assume a truck and Nationwide race is almost a given though.
 
I like Talladega, but thats neither here nor there.

75,000 just seems like alot of seating for a short track(or any track) unless it gets a Sprint Cup race. I would assume a truck and Nationwide race is almost a given though.

How big is the track supposed to be?
 
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