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ESPN has finally scheduled the series chapter on Tim Richmond on Octorber 19. From their website... "Natural. Rock star. Outsider. In the 1980s, race car driver Tim Richmond lived his life the way he raced cars – wide open. A flamboyant showman who basked in the attention of the media and fans, Richmond drew comparisons to racing legends for his on-track performances. But soon his freewheeling lifestyle caught up to him. He unexpectedly withdrew from the NASCAR racing circuit, reportedly suffering from double pneumonia. In reality, the diagnosis was much more dire: He had AIDS." Be sure and catch "Tim Richmond: To The Limit" beginning October 19. It will air many times after that so check the schedule for times.
 
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Just a reminder..... Next Tuesday, 8 pm on ESPN..... That is of course if it doesn't get bumped back by tennis or something. :rolleyes:

ESPN shines spotlight on Tim Richmond in its 30 for 30 series

Tuesday, Oct. 19, ESPN will show "Tim Richmond to the Limit'' as part of its 30 for 30 series. It's one NASCAR fans should enjoy.



Give credit to the show for not shying away from the controversy in Richmond's ilfe _ from his Hollywoodesque lifestyle to contracting AIDS _ but the show also details what kind of a talent Richmond was and makes one wonder just what he might have become had he not died in 1989 from complications related to AIDS.



During the show, Darrell Waltrip says: "There's no question that had he continued on, he would have won a championship or two or maybe more. He may have kept (Dale) Earnhardt from winning a championship or two.''



Richmond won 13 races in 185 starts. He won the 1986 Southern 500, one of a series-high seven victories that helped him finish third in the points that season. He drove for car owner Rick Hendrick, who paired Richmond with veteran crew chief Harry Hyde (creating the real life driver-crew chief pairing that was the basis for Cole Trickle and Harry Hogge in "Days of Thunder.'').



As the show details, there had not been someone like Richmond in the sport before. He was a vibrant and charismatci personality who partied and played as hard as he drove at times _ there's one story told in the show and a picture that shows Richmond wearing a black bra over his face.



But Richmond began to get sick and had to get out of the car (the program does a nice job of putting into the context the questions and fears of AIDS during the mid 1980s). He missed the first 11 races of 1987. In his return, he won at Pocono and then he won the following race at Riverside. His comeback wouldn't last. His illness was getting worse and he was out of the car only two months later, never to race again.



That brings us to the start of the documentary. A black screen has only the date: Oct. 10, 1987. It is the day of the fall Charlotte race. Then the shot turns to Richmond. He has a camera crew with him as he stands in the suites overlooking Turn 1 and holds a microphone.



"This is what I used to do here,'' Richmond said. "And I will do it again and I hope I do it well. This is the greatest sport it is. I want you to hear something that I've not been accustomed to hearing in this mode. There's a lot of noise out there.''



And then he opens the window as the field comes off turn 4 and takes the green flag. Richmond's face is watching the action and you only see the back of his head, but the longing is evident in his body language as he looks out to a track to drivers he raced _ and beat _ who now continue on without him.



"That is ... this is exciting!'' Richmond says over the roar. "Listen! Whooo!''



Such was the essence of Richmond. He was exciting. He created the whooo! factor in the sport but had it taken away from him by an illness that killed him at the age of 34.



It has been 21 years since his death. It's hard to imagine what a 55-year-old Tim Richmond would have been like. But this program shows fans who didn't see him race _ and remind those who did _ what he was like.
 
I had to set it for the midnight showing. My only hope is that it doesn't get bumped back an hour or so by Badminton or a 1997 Nine ball Championship game. :D

don't bash the badmitten
 
This is incredibly depressing:(

You are not old enough to remember the "aids epidemic". I have been a medic for thirty years and have lived through the BS stories and news that was put out many years ago.

That was one of the best shows I have seen in a long, long time.
 
I thoroughly enjoyed this show and it brought back many memories. I was very much aware of Tim in his early years with USAC and the Indy 500. The one thing that really got me to liking him was his ability to race and beat Dale Earnhardt. Those two were tops in driving with cars that had bias ply tires. It was sad when he retired, and worse when he died. Most of us fans felt that he had AIDS and not a druggie. I still miss him on the track. This guy was my original Mr. Excitement.

RIP Tim
 
I thoroughly enjoyed this show and it brought back many memories. I was very much aware of Tim in his early years with USAC and the Indy 500. The one thing that really got me to liking him was his ability to race and beat Dale Earnhardt. Those two were tops in driving with cars that had bias ply tires. It was sad when he retired, and worse when he died. Most of us fans felt that he had AIDS and not a druggie. I still miss him on the track. This guy was my original Mr. Excitement.

RIP Tim

Me, too, buck. I well remember the battles Tim and Dale had on the track. Tim was the only driver I ever saw that could beat Dale at his own game.

I still miss him. :(

I loved Humpy's description of Tim's mechanical ability --- "your average Labrador Retriever". ROTFL
 
I guess that since at that time, I was not living in the south and was just getting used to watching NASCAR on TV weekly. I had nothing against the southern rednecks, but I was more of a northern redneck race fan. But NASCAR was sure full of them and the brotherhood seemed to be very close. Tim didn't fit the description of a "good old boy" and I believe that kept him from getting in tight with the top drivers. But in this days, a driver had to pay his dues and prove his ability before he was seated in a top car, unlike today. Once Tim did get into some great equipment, he was able to show his ability and that gave him an "in" to the other drivers, but his personality still rankled many of the old fans who disliked his long hair, his partying, and his competition with the new king of NASCAR, Dale Earnhardt. The way I saw it from outside the south was that once he finally got down to business, he began to build his fan base. And the fact that the sport was now being shown all over the country, not just the south was a big help in his fan base.

He was a big part of NASCAR when he was healthy. Who knows where he could have been now. I wonder if he will ever make it into the HOF.
 
Watching it right now. Im very happy Espn and Nascar let them do this documentary. Over the years it seems like Nascar has tried to do whatever they could to not just diminish his accomplishments but try and erase his existance from the sport. Glad he finally getting some well deserved attention again.
 
He was a big part of NASCAR when he was healthy. Who knows where he could have been now. I wonder if he will ever make it into the HOF.
i don't think so. not because he had aids but because of the short time he spent in nascar. hof membership should never be awarded on the basis of potential, but rather a lifetime of achievement.

unlike a lot of others that only know tim from nascar i first heard of him from driving at indy. i live about an hour from there in the heart of usac land. the indianapolis 500 has always been the race to see around here. i haven't researched any rookie stats but at the time i don't think any rookie ever garnered as much press as tim did. i sure wish his time in racing had lasted longer. he was one of my favorites both because of his racing ability and his lifestyle. definitely not your average good ol boy. he could sure mix it up with them though.
 
Good show. I especially liked that Sr, his biggest competitor, went to Bill Jr telling him to let him race.

My jaw hit the floor went Bill Jr admitted the first drug test that Richmond took and failed wasn't done properly.:eek:

Na$car admitted to being wrong?!
 
I got the feeling from the Bill France Jr. comment that NASCAR said that the test was false only after it was too late and the truth could no longer be denied.
 
Good show. I especially liked that Sr, his biggest competitor, went to Bill Jr telling him to let him race.

My jaw hit the floor went Bill Jr admitted the first drug test that Richmond took and failed wasn't done properly.:eek:

Na$car admitted to being wrong?!

Hey SST remember the Grudge match between SR, Richmond, Bodine, and Schrader at Stafford back around 84 or 85? Classic stuff, I remember SR brought a Wrangler decked out late Model, can't remember who won, think it was Richmond. I do remember him inviting everyone back to his hauler for beers though.:beerbang:
 
I got the feeling from the Bill France Jr. comment that NASCAR said that the test was false only after it was too late and the truth could no longer be denied.

I think the year in the interview was 2006 so yeah.
 
Great show, I never knew that much about the guy until last night. I would have been a huge fan of his if I was watching back then.

Side note, I forgot how ****ty everyone was toward people with AIDS back then, very embarrassing because I was like that. Like Kyle Petty said, we were all "ignorant" back then about it.
 
kyle is a great guy and knows nascar has to adjust to the times but i think some still wish tim had never come to nascar. did you see richard's remarks? he never cracked a smile which i thought unusual because richard can't help but smile or grin almost every other time i've seen him interviewed.
 
kyle is a great guy and knows nascar has to adjust to the times but i think some still wish tim had never come to nascar. did you see richard's remarks? he never cracked a smile which i thought unusual because richard can't help but smile or grin almost every other time i've seen him interviewed.

That look that Richard gave Tim in one scene was cold as hell. If looks could kill, that one would have --- sent shivers down my spine.
 
What was really impressive was all the road course footage they had where Richmond was just manhandling the car.
 
I missed it I was riveted to my seat watching the Texas Rangers beat up on the yankies. I hope they repeat it sometime.
 
I missed it I was riveted to my seat watching the Texas Rangers beat up on the yankies. I hope they repeat it sometime.
Not to worry, they replay thoe 30 for 30 videos all the time. Just check with ESPN.com and look for the 30 for 30 logo. They will have the schedule for everyone of them.
 
Tim Richmond re-airs: Wed, Oct 20th at 7:30pm on ESPN2; Thur, Oct 21st at 11:00pm on ESPN Classic

Probably many more times as well.
 
Not to worry, they replay thoe 30 for 30 videos all the time. Just check with ESPN.com and look for the 30 for 30 logo. They will have the schedule for everyone of them.

Some get replayed more than others. I missed the one about Michael Jordan playing baseball and never saw it again after the first couple of days. I think those are online.

I've seen a number of these shows and they are all well-done. But I think this one was one of the better ones.

I remember more of the off-track stuff back then than I remember the races themselves. I was in college then and stayed busy or gone all the time. I had forgotten how quickly he came upon the scene and was gone. I do remember the interview on CBS done by Ken Squier. At the time, I thought he was being black-balled for something, figured he was making too big of a scene. Then the rumors about AIDS came out and I figured NASCAR was trying to keep it quiet. They pretty much did until shortly before his death.

One thing that strikes me after finally seeing that is how bland most drivers are today. I know it was a different era, that was almost 25 years ago. But we don't see anybody come in and stir the pot.

Many, many lessons to be learned from that story. It's hard to believe he's been dead for 21 years. Time flies.
 
I finally had a chance to watch this and I thought it was done well. I learned some thing I hadn't know. Like his life, it was far to short. I would have liked to have seen more.

Great follow up article on Tim Richmond can be found here. Long read but if you have time to read the whole thing, you may learn a little more.
 
I was watching Smokey & the Bandit & thinkin who in NASCAR would've been the Bandit & even though Dale Sr. is my alltime favorite driver, it would not have been him. The obvious choice was Tim Richmond, everything about him was the Bandit & Big Bill was his Buford T. Justice. There hasn't been another driver like him since, & in todays age of drivers there never will be ever again...
 
I was watching Smokey & the Bandit & thinkin who in NASCAR would've been the Bandit & even though Dale Sr. is my alltime favorite driver, it would not have been him. The obvious choice was Tim Richmond, everything about him was the Bandit & Big Bill was his Buford T. Justice. There hasn't been another driver like him since, & in todays age of drivers there never will be ever again...

Very true, and in todays Nascar things like the Tim Richmond-Dale SR episodes in racing would absolutely be forbidden. Pc correctness has ruined every faucet of life, even Nascar....lol
 
Just saw it finally, I thought it was well done. I wasn't watching NASCAR back when Tim was at his peak but my friends dad was always talking about his battles with Dale Sr. I started watching NASCAR myself in September of the 89 season, as a matter of fact the first race I ever saw from flag to flag was the 89 Southern 500 won by Dale Sr. Tim had just died the month before & i remember folks saying they wished he had just come out and say what he had. I didn't care though, the man was a great driver NASCAR may not have realized it at the time but they needed a driver like Tim Richmond...
 
Tim had just died the month before & i remember folks saying they wished he had just come out and say what he had.
you have to remember the time and the type of man tim was. most people were still ignorant about how you got aids and it was considered a homosexual disease. tim was a lady's man and flaunted it. the best at everything he tried to do, a natural. he knew he was dying even if he wouldn't admit it to himself. to have others know the cause would have been insufferable to him.
 
you have to remember the time and the type of man tim was. most people were still ignorant about how you got aids and it was considered a homosexual disease. tim was a lady's man and flaunted it. the best at everything he tried to do, a natural. he knew he was dying even if he wouldn't admit it to himself. to have others know the cause would have been insufferable to him.

Also, back then nascar most likely would not have let him race if everyone knew what he had. People were fired from their jobs for having it, parents were taking their kids out of school because one kid got AIDS from a blood transfusion. It was a very touchy subject back then.
 
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