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Fuel Injection coming to NASCAR?: When NASCAR Sprint Cup director John Darby, a few weeks ago, raised the issue of 'fuel injected' racing engines in NASCAR, it raised eyebrows. NASCAR Cup engines are some of the most technically advanced engines in racing, except for the antique carburetors. Every other major form of racing, even ASA, uses fuel injected engines. NASCAR has long shied away from things electronically complicated like electronic fuel injection, for fear  with goodly reason  that the mechanical wizards on these racing teams might figure out a way to put some tricks in that electronic box. However NASCAR officials are raising the issue to team owners of fuel injected engines  possibly in the Truck series as soon as next season, according to one scenario  and asking how owners think NASCAR ought to police it. "We think fuel injection is just the right way to go in NASCAR," Pat Suhy, Chevrolet's NASCAR field director, says. "And it wouldn't be that difficult. Every other top racing series uses fuel injection. We could put something together in about a week  depending on how simple or complex you wanted to do it  and then test it for two months or so, and be ready to go."(MikeMulhern.net)

This may change all their figures on fuel milage races?
 
Intoxicate said:
Fuel Injection coming to NASCAR?: When NASCAR Sprint Cup director John Darby, a few weeks ago, raised the issue of 'fuel injected' racing engines in NASCAR, it raised eyebrows. NASCAR Cup engines are some of the most technically advanced engines in racing, except for the antique carburetors. Every other major form of racing, even ASA, uses fuel injected engines. NASCAR has long shied away from things electronically complicated like electronic fuel injection, for fear  with goodly reason  that the mechanical wizards on these racing teams might figure out a way to put some tricks in that electronic box. However NASCAR officials are raising the issue to team owners of fuel injected engines  possibly in the Truck series as soon as next season, according to one scenario  and asking how owners think NASCAR ought to police it. "We think fuel injection is just the right way to go in NASCAR," Pat Suhy, Chevrolet's NASCAR field director, says. "And it wouldn't be that difficult. Every other top racing series uses fuel injection. We could put something together in about a week  depending on how simple or complex you wanted to do it  and then test it for two months or so, and be ready to go."(MikeMulhern.net)

This may change all their figures on fuel milage races?
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Among other things. Very interesting news, this.


Several new regs will be coming with this one, no doubt of that. Monitoring and gray areas need to be looked at before it's even enacted.

That said, it should have been done long ago, IMO.
 
97forever said:
Several new regs will be coming with this one, no doubt of that. Monitoring and gray areas need to be looked at before it's even enacted.
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Agree 100%. Get someone to look at all the secrets before Chad and Jimmie figure out the gray area and win every race.
 
AndyMarquisLive said:
Agree 100%. Get someone to look at all the secrets before Chad and Jimmie figure out the gray area and win every race.
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Won't just be Chad and Jimmy. HMS probably have had engineers working on this for awhile just anticipating it.
 
Like restristor plates Na$car will issue the black box controller.
 
SST55 said:
Like restristor plates Na$car will issue the black box controller.
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thats what i was thinking, just like the msd boxes. you know the engineers would be playing games with the fuel maps if the teams had control.
now, if nascar pays some company to block off the ecu's like i had in robotics, they can have certain items in the ECU grayed out to a factory setting, and only be able to use a narrow window for the injectors.
our formula cars use pertech ECU's, and we can do everything through it- manually fire injectors, manually fire spark plugs, control how linear the throttle pedal is to the throttle body (we're switching to fly by wire this year), of course cange pulse widths for the injectors, all kinds of stuff.
that said, we could always go back to the stock car theme. chevy runs the LS6 engine from the camaro, ford uses the mustang GT v8, dodge uses the 5.7L hemi, and toyota uses the 5.7L Iforce V8. all with factory locked ECU's that come straight from the production line. Stock engine, stock ECU. Just not quite a stock car.
 
I've been a proponent of fuel injection in NASCAR. But governing it is the biggest thing. I think it can be done and hope it comes about.
 
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UPDATE: NASCAR is researching the possibility of moving from engines with carburetors to fuel injection. Officials met with top engine builders from organizations earlier this month to discuss the move of that technology and others that would make cars more fuel efficient and more like cars on the manufacturer showroom floor. Manufacturers switched fully from carburetors to fuel injection in the 1980s. No timetable has been set for when fuel injection could be used, but Toyotas Lee White said his company could be ready to go by the 2010 opener at Daytona if NASCAR gave the go-ahead. "I would vote for it," White said on Friday at Bristol Motor Speedway. "No question, because everyone right now is spending an absolute fortune on [carburetor technology] that has absolute zero application in real life." White said all manufacturers need to be more conscious about the environment to survive, and he believes NASCAR needs to move more in that direction. "Sit in the grandstands and watch these cars go into Turns 1 and Turns 3 and watch all the fuel belching out the tailpipe," he said. "Thats wasted fuel thats going right into the grandstands in terms of lead poison." White said the transition could be made easily and without great expense. "Its something that could be implemented along with a few other things that could be discussed that could potentially reduce costs and increase the potential audience for the sport," he said.(ESPN)(8-21-2009) UPDATE 2: Speaking on condition of anonymity, a NASCAR official told SPEEDtv.com Friday that researchers for the sanctioning body met recently with team owners, engine builders and other constituents, but that discussions are purely in the research phase for the moment. Asked if one or more of NASCAR's top divisions might convert to fuel injection as early as next year, the NASCAR official said, "I don't see it happening."(SPEEDtv)(8-22-2009)
AND - Ford: Brian Wolfe, director, Ford North American Motorsports, was recently on The Race Reporters show. Wolfe said he's in favor of fuel injection for NASCAR engines, that Ford will debut its new Cup engine before this season is finished, and that technical assistance is available to teams which might want to change manufacturers for the 2010 season.(SpinDoctor500blog)(8-22-2009)
 
Just because it would be hard to police doesn't mean that a really good idea has to be shelved.
 
UPDATE 3: Sources have told FOXSports.com that Hendrick Motorsports is working on the fuel injection project for NASCAR. If NASCAR opts for fuel injection engines in the near future, it will likely increase production costs by $15,000 to $20,000. One engineer also quipped, "It will be more fuel efficient, but also provide teams with an easier platform to cheat."(FoxSports)(8-23-2009)

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BobbyFord said:
Chad must be salivating...
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Curves said:
UPDATE 3: Sources have told FOXSports.com that Hendrick Motorsports is working on the fuel injection project for NASCAR. If NASCAR opts for fuel injection engines in the near future, it will likely increase production costs by $15,000 to $20,000. One engineer also quipped, "It will be more fuel efficient, but also provide teams with an easier platform to cheat."(FoxSports)(8-23-2009)

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That's like putting the inmates in charge of the prison.
 
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