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$2.01 for Premium (I fill up the G5 with Premium since I want it to fly like an eagle) - NBC WASHINGTON says $1/gal. by the end of January! :beerbang:

it used to cost me $45-$50 to fill my tank. Now, it only costs $20 to fill the tank.
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The way I see it, this $1/gal. talk quadruples the amount of races I can go to next year. :cool:
 
andy you do know the higher oct. does not really mean it is the best for your car. And the higer the oct goes, the less "powerful" it really is.

I'v seen it around 1.50.9 is about the lowest. Maybe in the 1.40's in some places.
 
I just filled my car for $1.69 a gallon, but yesterday filled the other car for $1.51 a gallon closer to Raleigh.
 
Isn't it strange how just 6 months ago we were paying $4/ gal, but wait the demand has dropped that much, the world is using that much less energy? Biggest scam I've seen since i was old enough to know better. Yes the global energy demand has dropped, but dropped that much to force prices down this much? I just find it kind of odd, not complaining though, especially since i heat with oil in the house i just bought 4 months ago. :)
 
I paid 1.49 at Exxon. I don't know what it is at Wally World.
 
I was looking at my receipts...............I paid $1.63/gal on 12/1 and it dropped to $1.55/gal on 12/8. That's an $.08/gal drop in 1 week. Not bad.
 
andy you do know the higher oct. does not really mean it is the best for your car. And the higer the oct goes, the less "powerful" it really is.

Burning a higher octane doesn't hurt your car, just your wallet. Higher octane burns "faster" and cooler than lower octane fuel. It reduces if not eliminates detonation, 'ping and knock'. I've never heard it's less powerful.

Gas here just broke under $1.60. My Silverado came with a 32 gallon tank, I added a 24 gallon auxilary tank. Putting 50+ gallons in at $3.90+ a gallon left me weeping. But I can go over 1,000 miles without stopping for gas. About 200 miles for beer. :D
 
andy you do know the higher oct. does not really mean it is the best for your car. And the higer the oct goes, the less "powerful" it really is.
Lappy, I'm shocked that you wrote this, especially since you race cars. Don't you use racing fuel in your car or do you use what you get at the pump? Racing fuel is about 108 octane or thereabouts. Costs a bunch more too, but it's needed in the race cars for various reasons, but not to power them down. :eek:
 
Lappy, I'm shocked that you wrote this, especially since you race cars. Don't you use racing fuel in your car or do you use what you get at the pump? Racing fuel is about 108 octane or thereabouts. Costs a bunch more too, but it's needed in the race cars for various reasons, but not to power them down. :eek:
srock car + stock engine = stock fuel i believe

as SST said, it's pointless ina stock engine. Depending on plug temperature, 87 pings around 9.5-10:1, 89 about a round more, and 93 up in the 12's i THINK.
 
srock car + stock engine = stock fuel i believe

as SST said, it's pointless ina stock engine. Depending on plug temperature, 87 pings around 9.5-10:1, 89 about a round more, and 93 up in the 12's i THINK.

I run 103, but i got more then 10:1 im just not going to say....;);)

They were taking bets at the motor shop on how long it would take for the motor to blow in to a 1000 peices. almost two years later still running very well.
 
Looky what I found...

The octane rating of gasoline tells you how much the fuel can be compressed before it spontaneously ignites. When gas ignites by compression rather than because of the spark from the spark plug, it causes knocking in the engine. Knocking can damage an engine, so it is not something you want to have happening. Lower-octane gas (like "regular" 87-octane gasoline) can handle the least amount of compression before igniting.

The compression ratio of your engine determines the octane rating of the gas you must use in the car. One way to increase the horsepower of an engine of a given displacement is to increase its compression ratio. So a "high-performance engine" has a higher compression ratio and requires higher-octane fuel. The advantage of a high compression ratio is that it gives your engine a higher horsepower rating for a given engine weight -- that is what makes the engine "high performance." The disadvantage is that the gasoline for your engine costs more.

The name "octane" comes from the following fact: When you take crude oil and "crack" it in a refinery, you end up getting hydrocarbon chains of different lengths. These different chain lengths can then be separated from each other and blended to form different fuels. For example, you may have heard of methane, propane and butane. All three of them are hydrocarbons. Methane has just a single carbon atom. Propane has three carbon atoms chained together. Butane has four carbon atoms chained together. Pentane has five, hexane has six, heptane has seven and octane has eight carbons chained together.

It turns out that heptane handles compression very poorly. Compress it just a little and it ignites spontaneously. Octane handles compression very well -- you can compress it a lot and nothing happens. Eighty-seven-octane gasoline is gasoline that contains 87-percent octane and 13-percent heptane (or some other combination of fuels that has the same performance of the 87/13 combination of octane/heptane). It spontaneously ignites at a given compression level, and can only be used in engines that do not exceed that compression ratio.

During WWI, it was discovered that you can add a chemical called tetraethyl lead (TEL) to gasoline and significantly improve its octane rating above the octane/heptane combination. Cheaper grades of gasoline could be made usable by adding TEL. This led to the widespread use of "ethyl" or "leaded" gasoline. Unfortunately, the side effects of adding lead to gasoline are:

Lead clogs a catalytic converter and renders it inoperable within minutes.
The Earth became covered in a thin layer of lead, and lead is toxic to many living things (including humans).
When lead was banned, gasoline got more expensive because refineries could not boost the octane ratings of cheaper grades any more. Airplanes are still allowed to use leaded gasoline (known as AvGas), and octane ratings of 100 or more are commonly used in super-high-performance piston airplane engines. In the case of AvGas, 100 is the gasoline's performance rating, not the percentage of actual octane in the gas. The addition of TEL boosts the compression level of the gasoline -- it doesn't add more octane

Cut and past...of course!
Betsy:rolleyes:
 
The octane rating of gasoline tells you how much the fuel can be compressed before it spontaneously ignites. When gas ignites by compression rather than because of the spark from the spark plug, it causes knocking in the engine. Knocking can damage an engine, so it is not something you want to have happening. Lower-octane gas (like "regular" 87-octane gasoline) can handle the least amount of compression before igniting.

The compression ratio of your engine determines the octane rating of the gas you must use in the car. One way to increase the horsepower of an engine of a given displacement is to increase its compression ratio. So a "high-performance engine" has a higher compression ratio and requires higher-octane fuel. The advantage of a high compression ratio is that it gives your engine a higher horsepower rating for a given engine weight -- that is what makes the engine "high performance." The disadvantage is that the gasoline for your engine costs more.

The name "octane" comes from the following fact: When you take crude oil and "crack" it in a refinery, you end up getting hydrocarbon chains of different lengths. These different chain lengths can then be separated from each other and blended to form different fuels. For example, you may have heard of methane, propane and butane. All three of them are hydrocarbons. Methane has just a single carbon atom. Propane has three carbon atoms chained together. Butane has four carbon atoms chained together. Pentane has five, hexane has six, heptane has seven and octane has eight carbons chained together.

It turns out that heptane handles compression very poorly. Compress it just a little and it ignites spontaneously. Octane handles compression very well -- you can compress it a lot and nothing happens. Eighty-seven-octane gasoline is gasoline that contains 87-percent octane and 13-percent heptane (or some other combination of fuels that has the same performance of the 87/13 combination of octane/heptane). It spontaneously ignites at a given compression level, and can only be used in engines that do not exceed that compression ratio.

During WWI, it was discovered that you can add a chemical called tetraethyl lead (TEL) to gasoline and significantly improve its octane rating above the octane/heptane combination. Cheaper grades of gasoline could be made usable by adding TEL. This led to the widespread use of "ethyl" or "leaded" gasoline. Unfortunately, the side effects of adding lead to gasoline are:

Lead clogs a catalytic converter and renders it inoperable within minutes.
The Earth became covered in a thin layer of lead, and lead is toxic to many living things (including humans).
When lead was banned, gasoline got more expensive because refineries could not boost the octane ratings of cheaper grades any more. Airplanes are still allowed to use leaded gasoline (known as AvGas), and octane ratings of 100 or more are commonly used in super-high-performance piston airplane engines. In the case of AvGas, 100 is the gasoline's performance rating, not the percentage of actual octane in the gas. The addition of TEL boosts the compression level of the gasoline -- it doesn't add more octane

Cut and past...of course!
Betsy:rolleyes:
I was about to say, you knew all that?

:p
 
Since we use both NWS and NSC series engines in our show cars, I buy Sunoco 110 Purple from the distributor in Winston-Salem. Back when it was Union 76 there was also a 112 octane that I was told Roush used in his engines. Something about being a 30 degree difference in combustion chamber temperatures between the two but I am no chemist so I'm not going to say if that is true or not. :eek:


I love the smell of 110 purple. Wish they would make it into a cologne. :D

On some of the crate motors that we have, we would use 100 octane. Smells more like regular gas when it burns. Icky, compared to the odor of 110.
 
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