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BobbyFord

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Crew Members Suspended For Violation Of NASCAR Substance Abuse Policy: Jackson L. (Lee) Dodson II, a crew member in the NASCAR Sprint Cup Series and Frank W. Earnhardt, a crew member in the NASCAR Nationwide Series, have been indefinitely suspended from NASCAR for violating the sanctioning body's substance abuse policy. On May 9, Dodson was found to have violated Sections 12-1 (actions detrimental to stock car racing) and 19 (violation of the NASCAR substance abuse policy) of the 2013 NASCAR Rule Book. On May 10, Earnhardt was found to have violated Sections 12-1 and 19.(NASCAR)
AND Michael Waltrip Racing has fired crew member Lee Dodson after Dodson was indefinitely suspended by NASCAR for violating the sanctioning body's substance-abuse policy. Now in its fifth year of random drug testing, NASCAR suspends indefinitely anyone who fails a drug test. Before being reinstated, those suspended must meet with a substance-abuse professional and complete a recovery program based on the professional's recommendation. Dodson had joined MWR this year and had been working on the car of #15-Clint Bowyer. "Michael Waltrip Racing fully supports NASCAR's substance abuse policies and those who complete the Road to Recovery program," MWR said in a statement. "MWR's zero tolerance policy has resulted in the immediate termination of the employee."(Sporting News)(5-14-2013)
 
Nascar's substance abuse policy is more lenient than where I used to work. The only way you could get treatment/help was to tell them before you got caught. You flunk the test you were fired with no return. Sounds like those guys might get a second chance
 
Hopefully these assbag's next job is McDonald's and a position opens up for someone that appreciates a good job.
 
BobbyFord said:
Hopefully these assbag's next job is McDonald's and a position opens up for someone that appreciates a good job.
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Ohhh no that won't happen they will say they are sick. Seems that junkies have more rights than those that get tested and pass. The will sue and get there jobs back just wait. Don't you know drug addiction is an illness. They are all forced to stick that needle or smoke that joint.
 
The question is, will these people turn out like Allmendinger or Mayfield?
 
hawg dawg said:
wonder if he's related ta barry dodson ?
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i was wondering that too. If so, Barry would be sorely sad.

BobbyFord said:
I wouldn't know. I'm not a fan of their "music".
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I was a skeptic too, until I went to a show. It's alot like "watching guys turn left".
You go, be let happen what happen, and just "fall into the groove"

It just works, and when it works, you go with what works. Nascar and Dead have a lot in common. Good people, good times, and lots of it. I've done both several times. They share the same space. They respect their neighbor, would feed their neighbor, and defend their neighbor if they needed it. Good people..... Good Times....

I know. I fall victim to ridicule when I say this. Even from my fellow Toadies. But I stand by what I say. The Dead Family are good people. And lots of "Family" as they are known share roots with lots of southern folk.
 
MOEJOE said:
i was wondering that too. If so, Barry would be sorely sad.


I was a skeptic too, until I went to a show. It's alot like "watching guys turn left".
You go, be let happen what happen, and just "fall into the groove"

It just works, and when it works, you go with what works. Nascar and Dead have a lot in common. Good people, good times, and lots of it. I've done both several times. They share the same space. They respect their neighbor, would feed their neighbor, and defend their neighbor if they needed it. Good people..... Good Times....

I know. I fall victim to ridicule when I say this. Even from my fellow Toadies. But I stand by what I say. The Dead Family are good people. And lots of "Family" as they are known share roots with lots of southern folk.
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You sure you didn't have a bit too much to drink that night? Just sayin...
 
MOEJOE said:
i was wondering that too. If so, Barry would be sorely sad.


I was a skeptic too, until I went to a show. It's alot like "watching guys turn left".
You go, be let happen what happen, and just "fall into the groove"

It just works, and when it works, you go with what works. Nascar and Dead have a lot in common. Good people, good times, and lots of it. I've done both several times. They share the same space. They respect their neighbor, would feed their neighbor, and defend their neighbor if they needed it. Good people..... Good Times....

I know. I fall victim to ridicule when I say this. Even from my fellow Toadies. But I stand by what I say. The Dead Family are good people. And lots of "Family" as they are known share roots with lots of southern folk.
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true ! once a "dead head" ........always a dead head ! ha!

same as "attendin race" vs tv.
 
pistolshooter said:
Ohhh no that won't happen they will say they are sick. Seems that junkies have more rights than those that get tested and pass. The will sue and get there jobs back just wait. Don't you know drug addiction is an illness. They are all forced to stick that needle or smoke that joint.
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You realize there is a big difference between a heroin addict and a pot head, right?

You do know that a heroin addict without a job is that guy that's begging for money on the corner or ripping the copper pipes out of your house, right? I'd much rather an addict be working some type of job than stealing from me. I lived next to people like that for years and trust me they'll do whatever it takes for their fix.

Drug addiction is an illness, one we as a society need to address. They are just people that made bad choices, everyone deserves a chance to better themselves. A heroin addict on the needle just didn't wake up one day and decide to stick that crap in his veins. Most of them follow a path that starts with a doctor putting them on pain medication.
 
Just so you know pot is a stepping stone to hard drugs. If you look up information you will see that almost 100% of hard drug users started with pot.
In my opinion an illness is heart problems ms or a thousand other things,no one forced them to smoke that first joint, no one forced them to stick a needle in themselves to say that drugs is an illness is like saying police cause people to cause crime. Drugs in any form are dangerous and if you say that pot is ok now in 10 years will you say Meth is ok too? Think about what you are saying.and before you say I don't I don't understand I have the facts correct I do.I was on the job for 20 yrs I saw what it can do, also had a family member that was a junkie. I know what it can do to people and family's.
 
i thought moe's comments had only 1 meaning. ??
dead fans-n- nascar fans have a lot in common-----"dedicated fans"

one smoked pot----tha other....drinks beer. ?
 
pistolshooter said:
Just so you know pot is a stepping stone to hard drugs. If you look up information you will see that almost 100% of hard drug users started with pot.
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Okay, I'll bite. If pot were legal and I didn't have to go to a "drug dealer" to buy it would I be around "hard drugs" as often and have the chance to buy/try them? No, I would not.

Also, if we didn't lie to our children by telling them that pot will fry their brains and kill them would they be more inclined to try hard drugs? Because you know, when someone tries pot for the first time and finds out that most of what they were told in the DARE program about it is a bold face lie they're going to think they were lied to about other drugs too.

Also, I know plenty of people that have never smoked pot in their life but ended up addicted to hard drugs like heroin because their doctor pumped them full of pain medication for years just to profit off the monthly doctor visits.

In my opinion an illness is heart problems ms or a thousand other things,no one forced them to smoke that first joint, no one forced them to stick a needle in themselves to say that drugs is an illness is like saying police cause people to cause crime.
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So you have first hand experience begin a drug user and got clean? Otherwise I don't think you're qualified to know if it's an illness or not. Or maybe you're a doctor that studies addiction? If not, you have no idea what you're talking about.

BTW I don't know what the police are like where you're from but I could count cite countless examples of them not only begin involved in crimes but also causing them. Most of them just love to pin something on you too for no reason. You ever had drugs planted in you car? I have, and it took a lot of money and a good lawyer to prove it because those "good old boy" cops are all about covering for each other. I don't hate the police or anything but they've given me plenty of reasons to. My local police force is one of the most corrupt in the state and even offer protection to the local big wig drug dealers.

Drugs in any form are dangerous and if you say that pot is ok now in 10 years will you say Meth is ok too? Think about what you are saying.and before you say I don't I don't understand I have the facts correct I do.I was on the job for 20 yrs I saw what it can do, also had a family member that was a junkie. I know what it can do to people and family's.
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I'm sorry about your family member but if you've seen what it did to him you should know that it is indeed a medical condition once you reach that point in addiction. I hope he got clean....a lot of my friends did, a lot of them didn't and they paid the ultimate price.

But you should think about what you say as well. Of course meth abuse is horrible, but analogs of it are used in the treatment of ADHD (Adderall for example) and the drug allows those people to lead productive lives and support their families. Without it they simply can't function in society.

Your facts are skewed sir and I encourage you to go do some research for your own good. If you seriously think legalization of pot is going to lead to people wanting to legalize meth at any point in the future your so called facts are way off.

By the way the biggest problem about the whole drug war situation is you have a large portion of the prison population consisting of people that committed no other crime but having a bag of weed in their pocket at the wrong time or making a couple of mistakes in their lives and getting caught. We're locking up small time pot dealers longer than we're locking up rapist, can you honestly tell me there isn't anything wrong with that? What do you think happens to a 20 year old that dealt a little pot when you throw him in prison for years with hardened criminals?

Do you think he comes out rehabilitated or a hardened criminal with all the skills he learned from the guys in there for B&Es, big time drug dealing, and any number of real crimes? That's the real issue here, and it makes me sick considering a private prison gets paid $400-$600 a month just to keep a human locked in a cage.

The drug war is not working and it will never work. The only reason why it's kept around is because a lot of people are getting rich off of it.

I hope there are no hard feelings, this probably comes off harsher than I meant it to. I'm just tired of hearing people make statements like you have.
 
pistolshooter said:
Just so you know pot is a stepping stone to hard drugs. If you look up information you will see that almost 100% of hard drug users started with pot.
In my opinion an illness is heart problems ms or a thousand other things,no one forced them to smoke that first joint, no one forced them to stick a needle in themselves to say that drugs is an illness is like saying police cause people to cause crime. Drugs in any form are dangerous and if you say that pot is ok now in 10 years will you say Meth is ok too? Think about what you are saying.and before you say I don't I don't understand I have the facts correct I do.I was on the job for 20 yrs I saw what it can do, also had a family member that was a junkie. I know what it can do to people and family's.
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I don't care one way or the other. What over-torques my lug nuts is how pot and meth are illegal but tobacco and alcohol aren't. So much for your 'slippery slope' theory; the last two have been legal for hundreds of years (excluding Prohibition) but that hasn't lead to the legalization of the other two. Someone explain that one to me in a fashion other than the last two have established, deep-pocketed political lobbies.
 
I am proud of what Oklahoma has done with the Drug/alcohol problem. We had filled the prisons with the get tough on drugs B.S. Brought to us by a Governor who brought in private prisons into the state. He had a large chunk of stock invested in the company, CCA..said it was in his wife's name, he didn't know about her investments.o_O We have three private prisons in the state that don't have any Oklahoma inmates in them still to this day many years later.o_O The fire marshals got involved because the prisons were so overcrowded that even the exercise areas had bunks three high without adequate exits. The prison system would bring buses and load up inmates before the fire marshals got there, but the department of corrections didn't have enough buses to move them all, so they would get fined anyway for overcrowding, but less. We ranked third in the U.S. in prison population, #1 in locking up women in the U.S. we were right behind California and Texas. In a state that had a bit more then three million population in the whole state, it broke the government, compared to the gillions that live in California and Texas. So after he was voted out, the next governor started a ground breaking program called drug court. Instead of going to prison for simple drug/alcohol charges, they are given a choice, jail or drug court. Drug court puts a monitor on their ankle that they have to pay for. Not only does it give their location, so no bars or liquor stores, or dope houses, but it takes readings of their perspiration and can detect the use of drugs and alcohol immediately. That gets you sent straight to jail to serve your original sentence, not time served. Also the program has random drug testing. They call in or check to see what color they are calling in to test, if your color is called you have to get in that day to be tested..no excuses and you have to pay for the test, and some get as many as four tests a week when they are new to the program. They also have to go to either a faith based recovery program or AA or CA or NA and get a sheet they are provided with signed by the chairman. They do this for three years. If they have what is called a dillute test..suspicious result, but not conclusive drug/alcohol positive, they get a sanction and more time in the program. The average time of the program is three years, plenty of time to get off the stuff and change your ways.
 
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