Gentlemen's agreement

Should NASCAR make the "gentlemen's agreement" official by actually making a rule that

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Should NASCAR make the "gentlemen's agreement" official by actually making a rule that drivers can’t race back to the caution flag?

I don't care, they reall should just do something allready!
 
I voted no... there is no such thing. Racing is racing, if you want it bad enough... drive your ass off to the line. Its the only way to do it..
 
Originally posted by bud_stud@Jun 25 2003, 12:55 AM
I voted no... there is no such thing. Racing is racing, if you want it bad enough... drive your ass off to the line. Its the only way to do it..
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I am with you on this one bud_stud.
 
I voted yes. When a caution comes out it means just that, caution. It is not fair for all cars in the field to allow them to race to the line. It depends where the car is in regards to "whatever" brought out the caution as to whether a driver can race back or not thereby possibly giving the advantage to certain cars. This is especially important late in the race.
 
Originally posted by bud_stud@Jun 25 2003, 12:55 AM
I voted no... there is no such thing. Racing is racing, if you want it bad enough... drive your ass off to the line. Its the only way to do it..
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Couldnt have said it better myself.
 
If everyone is racing back to the line trying to gain a spot or two. Someone is going to get careless and cause a big wreck and then you have someone hurt or worst. :(
 
Originally posted by Gollum@Jun 25 2003, 01:49 PM
If everyone is racing back to the line trying to gain a spot or two. Someone is going to get careless and cause a big wreck and then you have someone hurt or worst. :(
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I definately agree with that, it isn't worth having drivers get hurt.
 
Yep i agree,racing back to the caution is just asking for trouble....it is no wonder a serious incident hasn't happened yet.
 
I voted no.U never know u might need to race back to the yellow like if it came out with 2 to go if you could not pass under the yellow the 2nd place guy could get screwed out of a win.
 
Originally posted by DeeDee+Jun 25 2003, 06:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DeeDee @ Jun 25 2003, 06:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--bud_stud@Jun 25 2003, 12:55 AM
I voted no... there is no such thing.  Racing is racing, if you want it bad enough... drive your ass off to the line.  Its the only way to do it..
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I am with you on this one bud_stud. [/b][/quote]
Me too!!, They race to the line because it's their nature, they are professional drivers, with the will to win.
 
WHAT GENTLEMANS AGREEMENT ? I DONT RECALL IT BEING A RULE. I have all the respect in the world for Jeff Burton, BUT OUTLAWING RACING TO THE YELLOW FLAG ISNT FAIR, ITS MAKING OUR SPORT INTO A WUSS SPORT. If a Receiver catches a Football, do we outlaw the Defensiveback tackling his sorry rear end ? If a baseball is hit, do we outlaw the outfielder from making an attempt to catch it ?

I dont know, we dont need this IRL rule in there and thats what cost Tracy that Indy 500. I stick by Mike Helton, and this is one of the rarest times I ever will.

What I am saying is, drivers arent obligated to follow this gentlemans agreement crap neither are they needed to give people their laps back. I dont get where all these sissy agreements come from anyways.
 
Never thought that Harvick fans would have differing views on stuff. But what danger in particular are the drivers facing? The threats gonna be just as high if the second place driver let the leader go.
 
Originally posted by Happy29@Jun 28 2003, 05:48 PM
Never thought that Harvick fans would have differing views on stuff. But what danger in particular are the drivers facing? The threats gonna be just as high if the second place driver let the leader go.
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All I am saying when you have a number of drivers driving as hard as they can and trying to get every spot they can in a very short time someone is gonna get careless. So someone can get hurt or worst.
 
Yeah, but if they didnt wreck the whole race serves a reason why they wouldnt wreck just comin to the yellow.

But lemme lay out a scenario, if driver x was leading the Daytona 500 and driver y had a run on him and all the sudden theres a yellow for whatever reasons may apply. And lets say Driver y takes the lead and at least 13 cars pass driver x. Now, let's say its to the checkered flag. Wouldnt it be kinda IRLish to then give the win to driver x ?
 
I see your point. But you were talking about a last lap scenario. Back it up say bout 25 or 30 laps. More often than none in the last lap even under green when everyone is scrambling for best spot they can get. Thats when a wreak happens. Isn't that the way it would be when racing under yellow.
 
Well you gotta put some faith to the drivers I mean, unless theres a real serious case of when drivers racing to the yellow wreck each other, I dont think NASCAR will consider this Gentlemens Agreement Rule. Even if they do, they dont wanna end up like IRL.
 
Your right we don't wont to end up IRL. Regardless where a rule is put in place or not. We will keep watching. Oh yes and pulling for the 29. :D
 
^_^ Keep pulling for 29 ! I better stop now, I dont want to sound like I'm thread jacking ! <_<
 
I vote for hold your position on caution. Reason is to stop passin in the pits. I want passin on the track.
 
I voted "no",only because NASCAR doesn't yet have a system that would allow Them to actually freeze car positions from previous completed lap with much accuracy & so therefore is a moot point at this time IMO!
I do wish They'd do something soon,if not for safety sakes alone,then to just end the countless controversial calls/non-calls by NASCAR,especially this year it seems!
At Texas Jeff Gordon passes Matt Kenseth coming to take the yellow,well before the start/finish line & thereby keeping Kurt Busch a lap down,but NASCAR intervenes & sends Jeff back to 2nd place while leaving Kurt on the lead lap,NASCAR even recanted Their position on that action later in the week,but too little & too late IMO!
Robby(rubby)Gordon passes teammate Kevin Harvick at Sonoma while coming to the yellow & NASCAR takes no action this time,sounds very inconsistant to Me,although I'm aware that most sports orginizations are gonna have bad calls/non-calls from time to time,just seems it's happening more frequently in NASCAR these day IMO!I'm also starting to think that NASCAR does have a few fave drivers that They help out when possible,JMO! :eek:
 
Originally posted by Gollum@Jun 25 2003, 09:49 PM
If everyone is racing back to the line trying to gain a spot or two. Someone is going to get careless and cause a big wreck and then you have someone hurt or worst. :(
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That was one the reason the "gentleman's agreement" was implemented.

Since NASCAR has a complete and definitive rule in the book, only two things are left. Either change the rule or leave it as it is.

If NASCAR were to introduce a "no racing back to yellow", the decision must be made that postitons are as they were as cars passed under the flagstand on the last lap, OR, where they were positioned when the yellow flag came out, a much more difficult and controversial way of resetting the field.

Since NASCAR has the rule in place, race back to the yellow. If nothing else it will get rid of the "let your team mate get thier lap back" crap !!!!!!!!!!
 
I also voted no Its still a race until you cross that start finish line so the drivers need to suck it up
 
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