Gibbs CLOSING

F

fastfordfan

Guest
Gibbs to close engine shop? UPDATE: hearing that Joe Gibbs Racing [#11, #18, #20] will lay off half their engine shop staff and get engines supplied, supposedly for free, from TRD - Toyota Racing Development. Hearing it is a three year deal, not sure if it starts soon or with the 2012 season. Employee's not laid off will be reassigned within the company, as there are reports that JGR will expand to a fourth team and are in the hunt for Carl Edwards to drive for them in 2012. Edwards is a free agent and currently drives for Roush Fenway Racing in the #99 Ford. Just last week, Toyota'a Lee White told FoxSports: "No, they're not shutting down their engine shop and no we will not be building their engines," White said. "Of course, hell can freeze over and pigs can fly, but not in this world." Currently, the JGR engines would not even fit in the other Toyota cars with their configuration.(7-15-2011)
UPDATE: Joe Gibbs Racing President JD Gibbs told SiriusXM NASCAR Radio's Sirius Speedway with Dave Moody that he has no plans to shutter the team's engine shop and merge motor-building operations with Toyota Racing Development. "I think a lot of that started when Red Bull Racing announced they were going to cease operation," said Gibbs. "A lot of people started trying to plug things into different spots. There are some things that TRD and Toyota do really well, and there are some things that we do really well. For several years, we've been working on how to bring all those strengths together. (JGR Head Engine Builder) Mark Cronquist has got some real sharp guys& and the question  again  is how do we bring all that together (with Toyota and TRD)? If we can do that, I think there will be some real value. But there is no shutting down our shop, or shutting down theirs. We're going to keep working on combining what they do well with what we do well."
Gibbs also commented on persistent rumors of negotiations with Roush Fenway Racing driver Carl Edwards, saying, "We get the most attention because we have an open spot. If other (teams) had spots, they'd all be in the rumor mill, too. The reality is that Carl is a gifted, talented driver. But you have to have all the parts; driver, crew chief, team and sponsorship. And that sponsorship piece is difficult to put together. From our standpoint, we are far from having any concrete decisions or directions. We have the availability to add a fourth car. We look at it each year and examine the possibilities. But we haven't been able to make it work." Gibbs said Joey Logano's job is secure, whether or not Edwards joins the JGR camp. "People in general just assume things," he said. "If we do a fourth car, it will be a great addition. For Joey, the key is that we finished last year so strong, but just haven't had that same consistency this year. We've had it the last few weeks, so that's encouraging for us and the whole (#20) team. He's young, but we have to perform. We all know that, and what we saw (out of Logano) last year is what we're starting to see again now. That's encouraging."(Sirius Speedway)(7-15-2011)
 
Wonder if it has something to do with that accident they had in the engine shop a few months back.
 
haven't heard of a flying pig (yet) but there's not a damn place in michigan that doesn't freeze over. i lived there. Hell, Mi.

You've oviously seen this then.

hell-michigan.jpg
 
I think Toyota is holding on by a thread in the sport and need to do something to hold onto the teams they have. Dodge knows that they won't lose Penske because of all the Dodge dealerships he owns. Toyota doesn't have that kind of hold over Gibb's, so maybe they decided to sweeten the pot.

If NASCAR got rid of the aero krap and went to a true street body design that's scaled up (or down) for each make and body style, we would soon see VW's, BMW's, Cadillacs, Lincolns, etc on the track. I think that would be great to see. Every time I look at the old pictures of 15 body styles running on the track, I think how cool it would be to have that again.
 
What happend?

They had an engine explode on the stand back before Daytona i believe. And i thought it took out a couple of dyno rooms and damaged alot of equipment. They where gonna have to rebuild alot of it. Never heard much more about it after it happened.
 
They had an engine explode on the stand back before Daytona i believe. And i thought it took out a couple of dyno rooms and damaged alot of equipment. They where gonna have to rebuild alot of it. Never heard much more about it after it happened.
That wasn't a good day at JGR.:)
 
If Gibbs goes for a 4th team next year and doesn't get Edwards, does anyone know the terms of Allgaier's contract with Turner Motorsports?

IMO, he'll be ready for cup full time and, personally, I'd like to see him get a ride in some good equipment.
 
I think Toyota getting involved in the engines has to do with NA$CAR moving to fuel injection in 2012.
 
Toyota/TRD has been building all the engines for all the other Toyota teams since they came into NASCAR, JGR was the only Toyota team building their own engines as far as I know.
I'm wondering if this has more to do with some of JGR's engine failures and oil pan issues of late? Did'nt JGR also have an issue last year with some light/unapproved rods or pistons last year?
 
UPDATE: While there's talk in the garage that Joe Gibbs Racing might be getting rid of its engine program (and using Toyota's program, which supplies engines for its teams), here's what Joe Gibbs told [Dustin Long] after the race: "No truth to that at all,'' Gibbs said of talk JGR's engine shop was closing after this year. "We're not closing our motor shop at all. What we're doing is moving closer and closer to TRD (Toyota Racing Development) to run one motor. So far we've been running two different packages. Now we've been getting closer and closer as we go and doing more R&D. Now that we'll be fuel injection (in 2012), we'll be closer yet. So that's all it is. We're going to be doing the things that we've been doing well. Mark (Cronquist, who oversees the engine department at JGR) is going to be in charge of horsepower stuff. We'll be working together (with TRD) on our motor package.''(Virginian-Pilot)(7-18-2011)
 
Gibbs would be a fool to close the engine shop

Yep, the engine shop at Gibbs is one of the main reasons they have been so successful. Look no further than the other Toyota teams relying on TRD, not so hot. I'll bet not even close to the same horse power.
 
Back
Top Bottom