Goodyear tires?...Why

BobbyFord said:
Goodyear needs to stop supplying junk tires!!!!
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It wasn't the tires. They were telling through the whole race it was the aggressive camber setups.
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Crews have been "cute" with their setups for years..........Goodyear gave a crap reason for the tire failures!! Rumble strips and positive camber my butt!! ;)
 
So if that is the case then why did we see repeated failures by the same teams??
 
I think when it all comes out you will find the softer tire they are using this year has a problem. 10 laps for a failure? That's more than aggressive camber and rumble strips. DW has a very bad habit of talking about stuff that he knows next to nothing about..........and he's the one that advanced that theory about the camber. And his side kick, Larry Mac will always follow suit. One team having repeated problems, I might buy the excuse........but about ten? Sorry, that goes beyond the probabilities.
 
Actually D.W. to me made complete sense. Teams are running too low of air pressure combined with the camber and long straightaways the sidewalls are breaking down before the pressures build up causing the tire to fail.
 
And teams have been doing exactly that for years........and now we have a problem! :) It's the tire that has changed........not the aggressive setups. Goodyear will address the problem, I'm sure......they always have in the past. But, the problem today was tires...........not crews or setups.
 
BobbyFord said:
Goodyear needs to stop supplying junk tires!!!!
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Ditto.

It's about time Goodyear had some competition. If NASCAR allows it, Goodyear will probably leave. Like they did in other race series.
 
I just think it odd that only about 8 teams had problems with tires. Then about 30 teams had no problems at all. Still say it was the way those teams had the car set up. They just didn't have something right, :o
 
It's odd.........that I can't argue. But to say 8 teams had the identical problem on the same track at the same race in a four hour period of time that it's the team's fault is really quite a stretch. Goodyear's coming up with that "setup" and rumble strip reason was really quick!! I'm sure Goodyear has some real experts at every race but to come up with drivers driving down on the rumble strips and having too aggressive camber in their setups after about an hour's worth of "investigating" sounds like and excuse.........not the reason. They are running a new tire this season.........and I suppose the new tire could not be the culprit! :) Yeah.......I can buy that!!!! Not!
 
Some of us remember when Hoosier came to Winston Cup back in the day.
They were fast, very fast.

But...

Hoosier did not have the ablity to produce enough tires to supply all the teams at any given event. NASCAR, in fairness to all, made it a requirement that any supplier would have to bring an inventory of tires large enough to supply all of the teams and Hoosier decided to withdraw instead of making the commitment to supply tires to Winston Cup.
(Oopps, I guess that should be NEXTEL Cup!)

The only two tire companies that I can see large enough to make such a commitment today might be either Michelin or Firestone/Bridgestone. I don't believe that either Hoosier of American (McCeary) have the production or financial ablity to make the necessary commitment.
 
Obviously the problem falls somewhere in the middle. The tire is a different compound that what the teams have had. Some didn't take that into account when they set the car up. So the tires on those cars failed. Those teams that did pay attention to the new tire didn't have problems. The rumble strips may not have been a problem in the past with a harder tire.
And, not all of the failures were the tires fault. Some were cut from running over debris as we see each week. Just don't include those in the total of failures as the talking heads did yesterday.
 
How can Waltrip run away from the field like that and not have a tire go down?

People have flat tires EVERY week - the fact that golden boy had a couple doesn't make it the crime of the century.
 
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