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Gordon, Jarrett: 500 too long for Pocono
By Ryan Smithson, Turner Sports Interactive June 6, 2003
4:03 PM EDT (2003 GMT)

LONG POND, Pa. -- A 500-mile race at Pocono Raceway isn't the most physically demanding in the Winston Cup Series.

But it might be for equipment, and that's a big reason Jeff Gordon and Dale Jarrett would both like to see Pocono's race length reduced.

NASCAR ran 500-mile marathons at Dover International Speedway until 1997 -- the races were sometimes dubbed "The 24 Hours of Dover." The races were shortened beginning with the 1997 fall event there.

Of course, the races at Dover didn't take a day -- they took about five hours. A 500-mile race at Pocono averages about three-and-a-half hours, but some would like it reduced to 400 miles.

"It's way too long," said Jeff Gordon, who has two careers wins at the 2.5-mile track. "This track takes the longest (of the ovals) to get around. I think this race should be shortened."

NASCAR runs a 400-mile event at Indianapolis, a track the same length and with similar banking as Pocono.

"It's a long day," said Jarrett, a three-time winner at Pocono and the defending champion of this weekend's Pocono 500. "With this 2.5-mile track, a 400-mile race would be in order.

At 500 miles -- especially with the one-engine rule -- engines at Pocono take a beating. The 3,500-foot straightaways and tight turns force drivers to shift a couple of times a lap, and no fewer than six drivers fell out with mechanical failures in each event at Pocono in 2002.

"It's not really a physical track," Gordon said. "It's much more physical on the race start, the engine and valve train."

"For the drivers and teams, this thing is forever, and I think it would be a better race for the fans as well."

Jarrett agrees.

"I don't think (shortening the race) would take a thing away from anybody or anything, so I would like to see that discussed," he said.
 
I agree, but especially races at Pocono, because of how long they are for such a boring race track. This was built for Indy Cars and like Indy, doesn't suit stock cars very well.
 
I think they should shorten Daytona and Talledega as well. Ten laps at either of those tracks seems like plenty enough for me. ^_^
 
If Jeffy or Jarrett think the race is to long, I say Boo Hoo! I think a 8 hour work day is to long but nobody listens. :D
 
Originally posted by Highboy90@Jun 6 2003, 09:38 PM
If Jeffy or Jarrett think the race is to long, I say Boo Hoo! I think a 8 hour work day is to long but nobody listens. :D
They are not talking about it being too long from a drivers standpoint. They indicate that it is too long and hard on the equipment. Think about it. They would not have to save their stuff for the last 100 miles. It would be a better race.
 
Originally posted by N2racin88+Jun 7 2003, 12:48 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (N2racin88 @ Jun 7 2003, 12:48 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--Highboy90@Jun 6 2003, 09:38 PM
If Jeffy or Jarrett think the race is to long, I say Boo Hoo! I think a 8 hour work day is to long but nobody listens.&nbsp; :D
They are not talking about it being too long from a drivers standpoint. They indicate that it is too long and hard on the equipment. Think about it. They would not have to save their stuff for the last 100 miles. It would be a better race. [/b][/quote]
road courses are hard on equipment to and they need to be done away with.
I like the long distant tracks. Pocono is really the first real test for cars this year.
 
If they don't make it shorter, which I hope they don't, The teams that work harder to make the parts better will survive. A first step is run a gear you know will make it to the end. That and tranny seems to be the biggest problems.
 
It's hard for me to say. Sometimes 500 miles isn't long enough because of the good racing. Then sometimes 50 miles is too long because of the non-racing going on.
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin@Jun 6 2003, 08:41 PM
I think they should shorten Daytona and Talledega as well. Ten laps at either of those tracks seems like plenty enough for me.&nbsp; ^_^
I love Ur response,also agree wholeheartedly!

In 10 laps at those boring RP races,there would still probably be about 25 lead changes,LMFAO!!!
IMO,They should tear down 'Dega & Daytona,bring in 3 more short track & 1 more road course events,JMO!

Personally,I like Pocono as it's a tri-oval that drives like a road course & would prefer to see it stay at 500 miles length,but then again,I don't have to race on it at 190+ MPH at times.
Both DJ & JG have had a lot of success at this track,so They must have very valid points as to why They want it shortened to another 400 mile event.
I do think that Pocono is the hardest on engines/trannies more than on the drivers,as there are at least 6 cars dropping out per race recently at Pocono,it sometimes a matter of which drivers can survive the first 400 or so miles & then be able to race for the win,that might be part of the reason that the veterans seem to be more successful at this track overall,JMO!
 
Originally posted by EJL+Jun 7 2003, 09:25 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (EJL @ Jun 7 2003, 09:25 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'>
Originally posted by -N2racin88@Jun 7 2003, 12:48 AM
<!--QuoteBegin--Highboy90
@Jun 6 2003, 09:38 PM
If Jeffy or Jarrett think the race is to long, I say Boo Hoo! I think a 8 hour work day is to long but nobody listens.  :D

They are not talking about it being too long from a drivers standpoint. They indicate that it is too long and hard on the equipment. Think about it. They would not have to save their stuff for the last 100 miles. It would be a better race.
road courses are hard on equipment to and they need to be done away with.
I like the long distant tracks. Pocono is really the first real test for cars this year. [/b][/quote]
:eek: road courses are hard on equipment to and they need to be done away with.



IMO,We need 1 or 2 more road course events,these tracks really show up the better drivers with the better cars & setups!2 events is not enough out of 36 race dates in a season,those 2 events only account for 5.5% of the races among different track types,while the cookie-cutter(yuck)tracks account for 66.8% currently,NASCAR's already taking the Southern 500 event from The Lady In Black track & giving it to California(another cookie-cutter event-yipe).

If NASCAR abolishes any certain type of track.then IMO They should raze 'Dega & Daytona,boring snoozefest races IMO anyway,I wouldn't miss them a bit!!!
 
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