Haas secures 2015 F1 entry

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Gene Haas has secured a Formula 1 team entry for the 2015 season.

The American NASCAR team owner confirmed on Friday that he had been informed by the FIA his application to join the F1 grid had been successful.

It comes after a lengthy evaluation process to ensure that Haas had the financial means and necessary infrastructure to commit to the sport.

In a statement, Haas welcomed the FIA decision, although knew that the granting of the entry marked only the start of a huge effort to get on to the grid.

"Obviously, we're extremely pleased to have been granted a Formula 1 licence by the FIA," he said.

"It's an exciting time for me, Haas Automation and anyone who wanted to see an American team return to Formula 1.

"Now, the really hard work begins. It's a challenge we embrace as we work to put cars on the grid.

"I want to thank the FIA for this opportunity and the diligence everyone put forth to see our licence application come to fruition."

Haas is hoping to announce further details about his F1 operation next week.

The success of the Haas entry comes just a few years after the efforts of another American team, USF1, failed to come off.

F1 supremo Bernie Ecclestone suggested in last weekend's Bahrain Grand Prix that Haas may not be the only team that gets an entry for 2015, although he declined to reveal any more details.
 
This will be interesting. Think he can convince Chevrolet to make an F1 engine?
 
I wonder what manufacturer he'll go with. This is all very intriguing. You'd think he'd want an American engine.
 
jdbrew said:
I wonder what manufacturer he'll go with. This is all very intriguing. You'd think he'd want an American engine.
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Somebody on the NASCAR section posted a link to an article when Haas first made his bid for an F1 team and then he said he was going to go with a Ferrari engine and a Dallara-designed chassis.
 
jdbrew said:
I wonder what manufacturer he'll go with. This is all very intriguing. You'd think he'd want an American engine.
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Ford would probably be the only American manufacturer interested with their EcoBoost family. Haas said he's had preliminary discussions with both Mercedes and Ferrari so far.
 
FLRacingFan said:
Ford would probably be the only American manufacturer interested with their EcoBoost family. Haas said he's had preliminary discussions with both Mercedes and Ferrari so far.
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As I recall, the new engine rules say only 4 teams may use 1 engine make. Mercedes would have to dump one of their teams to make room for Haas unless the rules were changes. Probably would be Force India. :(
 
KevinWI said:
As I recall, the new engine rules say only 4 teams may use 1 engine make. Mercedes would have to dump one of their teams to make room for Haas unless the rules were changes. Probably would be Force India. :(
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There's supposed to be another team getting approved too, so that would put 13 on the grid and at that point I would suspect they'd change the rules. Who knows if Marussia and Caterham are going to stick around, though. I know I would hate to see FI lose their Mercedes partnership.
 
FLRacingFan said:
There's supposed to be another team getting approved too, so that would put 13 on the grid and at that point I would suspect they'd change the rules. Who knows if Marussia and Caterham are going to stick around, though. I know I would hate to see FI lose their Mercedes partnership.
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Yeah, there would have to be a rule change if they added two more teams and none left. That would leave 4 teams each with Ferrari, Mercedes and Renault. It would be unfair to ask some small team to have their own engine program or try to find one on their own.
 
Maybe Cosworth will have a reason to build an engine for 2015.
 
what a bunch of squishy shoes crap.."has the financial means and the blah blah blah". Hope it is worth it business wise for Haas to have to jump thru all the B.S. hoops to join the second tier racing organization. All it would take was for Nascar to go on the road so to speak, and they would be in a world of hurt real quickly. Their one or two cars winning every race B.S. wouldn't last long.
 
StandOnIt said:
what a bunch of squishy shoes crap.."has the financial means and the blah blah blah". Hope it is worth it business wise for Haas to have to jump thru all the B.S. hoops to join the second tier racing organization. All it would take was for Nascar to go on the road so to speak, and they would be in a world of hurt real quickly. Their one or two cars winning every race B.S. wouldn't last long.
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Second-tier racing? lol

Whelen Euro Series. NASCAR in Europe ends up like NFL Europe. Europe has their hands full with F1, DTM, WEC, and the like. They don't and wouldn't care about NASCAR.
 
KevinWI said:
Yeah, there would have to be a rule change if they added two more teams and none left. That would leave 4 teams each with Ferrari, Mercedes and Renault. It would be unfair to ask some small team to have their own engine program or try to find one on their own.
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McLaren is going to Honda next year too. That will actually open up a Mercedes slot. Forgot all about that.
 
I don't think Ford or GM would want the cost of developing an F1 engine program (Indycar is a better fit and they aren't participating in that). And I don't think Ferrari would like their engine re-badged Dodge. It should be interesting to see how his team develops. I wonder if the USF1 team had developed anything worth acquiring.
 
StandOnIt said:
what a bunch of squishy shoes crap.."has the financial means and the blah blah blah". Hope it is worth it business wise for Haas to have to jump thru all the B.S. hoops to join the second tier racing organization. All it would take was for Nascar to go on the road so to speak, and they would be in a world of hurt real quickly. Their one or two cars winning every race B.S. wouldn't last long.
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International racing fans hate NASCAR. Just check out some of the YouTube comments to see what F1 fans have to say about NASCAR.
 
Yeah Euro fans don't consider Nascar real racing. They think oval racing takes no driving skill..
 
Yeah Euro fans don't consider Nascar real racing. They think oval racing takes no driving skill..
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Yep, they don't understand racing in circles. Different cultures, different sports.

I read somewhere that Montoya applied an oval setup concept from Indycar to F1. In F1 they adjusted the suspension front-rear, meaning the left and right sides are the same and the only changes are front and rear. They set the car up to handle equally for left/right turns. In oval racing all four corners are set up differently. Montoya wanted to set the car up for a specific corner where he knew he could make a pass (they thought he would wreck in an unbalanced car). The idea worked.
 
KevinWI said:
International racing fans hate NASCAR. Just check out some of the YouTube comments to see what F1 fans have to say about NASCAR.
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Popularity of Oval racing is growing outside North America. I've met several british fans of Nascar online. Its more popular over there than one would think.

But yeah most F1 fans don't consider Nascar real racing. Which is weird because I don't see a lot passing in F1. 9 times out of 10 you know who wins the race before it starts. I still enjoy F1 racing though.
 
I've always considered F1 the "purist" form of motorsport because you can do a lot with the cars and they rarely have cautions to bunch everyone back up. With that said, I have little to no interest in it until an American team and driver show up. I'd instantly go from casual observer to raving fan if Conor Daly is behind the wheel of a American car based out of Charlotte.
 
Haas wants a young american driver paired with an experienced F1 vet. Unless driving in F1 is your dream, I don't know why a young American would sign up for that. I'm thinking you can make the most money in Nascar and not have to travel overseas.
 
Lazyking said:
Haas wants a young american driver paired with an experienced F1 vet. Unless driving in F1 is your dream, I don't know why a young American would sign up for that. I'm thinking you can make the most money in Nascar and not have to travel overseas.
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There's a couple of Americans going after that F1 dream right now but because of the european bias toward American drivers, they struggle to find rides. Most road course specialists that are American end up getting to GP2, coming back to look for IndyCar rides, and then settle for sports car careers.

Here is Racer Magazines thread on American F1 hopefuls:
http://www.racer.com/f1/america-s-f1-hopefuls
 
Lazyking said:
Haas wants a young american driver paired with an experienced F1 vet. Unless driving in F1 is your dream, I don't know why a young American would sign up for that. I'm thinking you can make the most money in Nascar and not have to travel overseas.
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Some of us young men like traveling overseas. The best F1 drivers still make more than the best NASCAR drivers. You get to visit some of the most exotic locations in the world. And there are beautiful women everywhere.
 
I hear Subway wants to be a sponsor in F1. Dangling those sandwiches in front of those hungry drivers...

I expect them to be a major sponsor for Haas, if he get the operation going.
 
Lazyking said:
Vettel is making more money then JJ? I honestly didnt know that.
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Last I read from serious outlets like Forbes (not that bull**** "Celebrity Net Worth" site), the top NASCAR guys made like $20 mil/year while the top F1 guys made like $50 mil/year. Obviously we're talking about (like you said) the likes of Jimmie Johnson and Vettel. No idea how the middle and lower tier pay stacks up.
 
FWIW....
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