Harvick fails post race inspection!!!

Wow, i must say..this is the most dumb thing i had read in a few days.

If this was going to be a problem whenever Kevin wins, why did Nascar allowed the signing with Shell?
 
How silly. Picky, picky, picky.

What good does it do Sunoco to be the official fuel when you can't buy it all over the country?

There is no such thing as Sunoco in my neck of the woods --- so I could care less about it being "official".
 
I agree TRL. Dont have one any were near me.

This has got to be one of the most stupid things i have ever heard of...
 
What's the deal with Cingular being a sponsor? Didn't they have problems with Nextel at one time? Is this a similar deal as Shell and Sunoco?
 
fergy1370 said:
What's the deal with Cingular being a sponsor? Didn't they have problems with Nextel at one time? Is this a similar deal as Shell and Sunoco?
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Cingular was "grandfathered" in. However, there seems to be some discussion as to whether AT&T will be allowed to grace the hood when the name change becomes official later this year.
 
jeefunk said:
Cingular was "grandfathered" in. However, there seems to be some discussion as to whether AT&T will be allowed to grace the hood when the name change becomes official later this year.
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With XM and Sirius merging will that confuse the issue even further?
 
Nascar is bad about playing favorites. When JB was talking about leaving Roush becouse they couldnt find a sponser Jack Danials offered to sponser the 99 and nascar said no hard liquer then the 07 gets it the very next week!

Nascar is stepping over bounderies soon they will drive all the sponsers away:einstein:
 
You guys seem to forget what fuels (keeps it going) NASCAR and I don't mean gas. It's money. NASCAR gets lots of money from SUNOCO and what from Shell? This is a country of capitalism, not socialism and as such, when a sponsor gives it's money to be used a certain way, they can say how their money can be used. SUNOCO did that and now they are saying that there's been a change. If NASCAR doesn't do something about it, they could either be sued or lose the sponsorship.

I'd say that the majority of people here say let SUNOCO go, but then who would pay the bill for the fuel? Hmmmmmm!
 
buckaroo said:
You guys seem to forget what fuels (keeps it going) NASCAR and I don't mean gas. It's money. NASCAR gets lots of money from SUNOCO and what from Shell? This is a country of capitalism, not socialism and as such, when a sponsor gives it's money to be used a certain way, they can say how their money can be used. SUNOCO did that and now they are saying that there's been a change. If NASCAR doesn't do something about it, they could either be sued or lose the sponsorship.

I'd say that the majority of people here say let SUNOCO go, but then who would pay the bill for the fuel? Hmmmmmm!
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Nascar drives me crazy....they wont do a pension for drivers because they are not employed by Nascar, they are employed by the teams.

Somehow they can tell the teams what sponsors they have and what sponser they cant have...I really dont agree with that...once they tell a team that a certain sponser cant sponser them...i think nascar should be on the hook for that, they should have to pay the team what the sponser was going to pay them.
 
This Buds For Me said:
Somehow they can tell the teams what sponsors they have and what sponser they cant have...I really dont agree with that...once they tell a team that a certain sponser cant sponser them...i think nascar should be on the hook for that, they should have to pay the team what the sponser was going to pay them.
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There is a certain amount of logic in that. However, there is too much opportunity for abuse there. Someone could theoretically get a company to offer sponsership that they know NASCAR would not be able to allow just to get NASCAR to foot the bill.
 
buckaroo said:
NASCAR gets lots of money from SUNOCO and what from Shell?


I'd say that the majority of people here say let SUNOCO go, but then who would pay the bill for the fuel? Hmmmmmm!
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While it may look like childish bickering Buckaroo is right........Sunoco have paid plenty for exclusive rights which gives them the right to be upset
 
What about the Texaco-Havoline Dodge? Even though Texaco isn't on the car, everyone associates Texaco and Havoline together.
 
The Shell car also doesnt have Juan Poblonmotor driving it
 
didn't shell sponser a busch car for gibbs and also didn't they sponser a part time deal for roush maybe last year ?
 
fun_in_my_z said:
The Shell car also doesnt have Juan Poblonmotor driving it
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That's Juan Pablo Montoya to you sir.

Dont have the guts to spell the name right if all you're gonna do is be on his case?
 
Once again I'm catching crap from you when I wasn't speaking to you. :confused:
 
Well you did posted in this Thread, and if you dont want people to comment on what you say then dont post stuff like that because that just enspire me to say something. And hey last time i check this is an open for discussion topic. So there.
 
This Buds For Me said:
Nascar drives me crazy....they wont do a pension for drivers because they are not employed by Nascar, they are employed by the teams.

Somehow they can tell the teams what sponsors they have and what sponser they cant have...I really dont agree with that...once they tell a team that a certain sponser cant sponser them...i think nascar should be on the hook for that, they should have to pay the team what the sponser was going to pay them.
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Let's see now, how much do you think that RCR pays for their racing fuel? Nada as it's taken care of by SUNOCO. At better than five bucks a gallon, I believe that's a tidy sum given to RCR by the sponsor SUNOCO.

de7xwcc, I believe that when Shell sponsored the car, Union 76 was the fuel supplier. They might have had a different agreement with NASCAR.
 
as well as, same as applies here, shell makes more than gas, thats how they're bending the rules: advertise your lubes, and gas sales increase instead.
 
Childress Asked To Downplay Shell Logos
Kevin Harvick likely won't be wearing his Shell sponsorship logos quite so prominently this weekend at California Speedway. Harvick's team has been asked to utilize logos representing the Pennzoil automotive lubricant part of the company more prominently instead of the dominant Shell logo associated with the company's gasoline in an effort to play down any perceived competition with Sunoco, the official fuel of NASCAR.

Sunoco has exclusive rights to the fuel category at a NASCAR track, and company officials raised the logo matter after Harvick won both the Busch and Nextel Cup series races wearing prominent Shell logos at Daytona International Speedway. As a result, Harvick will apparently be sporting smaller Shell logos at this weekend's events at California Speedway.

"Obviously we've got a lot of partners and constituencies in the garage area that are important to the entire industry, and when these things come up we want to work through them as best we can," NASCAR spokesman Ramsey Poston said Thursday morning. (Scene Daily)
 
de7xwcc, I believe that when Shell sponsored the car, Union 76 was the fuel supplier. They might have had a different agreement with NASCAR.

i can't remember buck, i have slept since then
 
reck said:
Originally Posted by fun_in_my_z
The Shell car also doesnt have Juan Poblonmotor driving it

That's Juan Pablo Montoya to you sir.

Dont have the guts to spell the name right if all you're gonna do is be on his case?
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Ahhhh, I remember the good old days where we had a multipage thread because someone spelled it Tonie and not Tony. Sometimes I miss those days. ;)
 
barelypure said:
Ahhhh, I remember the good old days where we had a multipage thread because someone spelled it Tonie and not Tony. Sometimes I miss those days. ;)
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Yeah, but isn't Tonie a girl's name? that'd be just wrong of you all lol
 
While we're on names, why didn't Juan Pablo be signed to drive a Toyota. Then he could be Juan Pablo Montoyota.
Or, why didn't Hendrick get DLP to sponsor the #25. Then the commercials could say "It's the Mears". (For the slow ones that's the commercial with the little girl and the box with the elephant and she says "It's the meers" rather than mirrors. Yeah I know, jokes don't work if you have to explain them). :)
 
barelypure said:
While we're on names, why didn't Juan Pablo be signed to drive a Toyota. Then he could be Juan Pablo Montoyota.
Or, why didn't Hendrick get DLP to sponsor the #25. Then the commercials could say "It's the Mears". (For the slow ones that's the commercial with the little girl and the box with the elephant and she says "It's the meers" rather than mirrors. Yeah I know, jokes don't work if you have to explain them). :)
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Damnnn i have to say that was funny to read :D
 
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