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just saw where R Gordon will have to get in 500 on speed
But the 2010 points shows he was 34 in points


WTF
 
No, NASCAR's bad. Top35 = BS anyhow. How much more fun would it be to watch these guys actually compete to make the field? Those were the days.
 
I like watching qualifying. I like the competition. For this reason, the top 35 sucks.

Lets say we go back to the old way. The way we like it. Make them compete to get in the race. Good for us watching at home. It's more fun for us.

The door swings both ways however.

The ticket buyer already has to deal with the possibility of RAIN. NOW, their guy might not make it in?

FOR ME (NOT EVERYONE), I don't make enough money to wager on it not raining, and my guy not having a problem during qualifying. Now, IM a fan of racing, the fact that JJ might not make it, that's not going to keep me away. But it doesn't help when Im making a decision between trading in the camry and buying race tickets. I don't know about the rest of the country. But it has gotten real tight around where I live, big employers closed down and sent all their jobs to china. 300 people applied for a counter job at DQ for minimum wage last year. Construction is down three fold the last several years. And a bunch of the guys on unemployment are sniping my mow jobs. $1000+ nascar trips are not in my budget right now. People among this demographic used to make up a big part of filling the stands. In these unsure times, paying $1000 for "hopefully it won't rain and my guy will qualify" is hard to swallow.

The Track owner isn't going to like it because people pay the $125 per ticket to see a race with their guy in it.

Imagine if Dale Jr didn't qualify on Saturady. And aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaalllllllllllllllllll the locals knew it. The track owner would want to kill BRIAN FRANCE for screwing their finical plan. Not to mention the ticket scalpers. LOL

Then you have the sponsor, putting up 20 million a year only to be undone by the little guy who came to park it a pick up a pay check.

After you look at all of it, it's probably better the way it is, just for the sake of a stable NASCAR that can field teams for the fan to enjoy. After all, it's about the racing, not the qualifying, unless you watch F1, that's the format we should have. Very Exciting to watch.

I want it all, I just can't have it.
 
Just for the record, my track going experiences have not been the best. I like sitting inside in the cool shade, and being 10 feet from the can where I don't have to wait.

Don't get me wrong. At MIS my wife thought security was going to throw my ass out because I was so "animated" when JJ took the lead. I loved that part. What I didn't like, is the hot hot hot hot hot stands. And you can't see what is happening on the back stretch. I had this problem at Daytona too. Just can't see.

Too this to that. I cook all week cutting grass under the hot sun, weekend is break time in the shade.

If NASCAR wants more fans, they need more martinsvilles. I will go there for sure before I die. That is the valhalla of my inner being.
 
MOEJO, I'm not sure how far back that you go as far as watching this sport so I'm not sure if you remember the pre-top 35 era. That isn't the way it was at all before the top 35. I understand your point but we didn't have the top teams going home because of a failed qualifying attempt. There were safeguards in place in that event. Teams that were dedicated to the sport and attempted qualifying for an event earned provisionals that could be used if they ran into issues. I think that the lenght of time that this top-35 rule has been around has givin the false impression that we'd be seeing teams like Earnhardt, Johnson & the like heading home. That's simply not the case. Some will point back to Pettys packing up and going home years ago. While that was the case he had used up his earned provisionals by lacking in production.
 
MOEJO, I'm not sure how far back that you go as far as watching this sport so I'm not sure if you remember the pre-top 35 era. That isn't the way it was at all before the top 35. I understand your point but we didn't have the top teams going home because of a failed qualifying attempt. There were safeguards in place in that event. Teams that were dedicated to the sport and attempted qualifying for an event earned provisionals that could be used if they ran into issues. I think that the lenght of time that this top-35 rule has been around has givin the false impression that we'd be seeing teams like Earnhardt, Johnson & the like heading home. That's simply not the case. Some will point back to Pettys packing up and going home years ago. While that was the case he had used up his earned provisionals by lacking in production.

In 2007, there were over 50 fully sponsored cars trying to get in the 500. Now how many fully sponsored rides are there?

Compaines don't want to wager 20 million large man. NOT GONNA HAPPEN. Even with provisionals, the sponsor doesn't like it.

If Im LOWES, that is not a good marketing tool. It's like gambling already for them because of the rain, and what if a guy blows a tire 50 laps in? There's too many what ifs already.
 
In 2007, there were over 50 fully sponsored cars trying to get in the 500. Now how many fully sponsored rides are there?

Compaines don't want to wager 20 million large man. NOT GONNA HAPPEN.

Seeing as those out of the top 35 only have what, six or seven spots to fill, is it any wonder. There's barely a chance of getting into the show anymore. I guess I'll have to agree to disagree on this. I see more harm than good from this rule. It's turned next Thursday into little more than arranging day.
 
Seeing as those out of the top 35 only have what, six or seven spots to fill, is it any wonder. There's barely a chance of getting into the show anymore. I guess I'll have to agree to disagree on this. I see more harm than good from this rule. It's turned next Thursday into little more than arranging day.

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