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The controversial decision at Texas involved a pass between Jeff Gordon and Matt Kenseth. Credit: Autostock
Helton admits mistake in caution call Sunday
By Lee Montgomery, Turner Sports Interactive April 1, 2003

CONCORD, N.C. -- NASCAR president Mike Helton took the bold step of admitting a mistake in a call made during the Samsung/Radio Shack 500 at Texas Motor Speedway last Sunday.

At issue was the decision to return Matt Kenseth to the lead and give Kurt Busch and Ricky Rudd a lap back. Jeff Gordon, running second to Kenseth when the caution came out, had passed Kenseth and kept Busch and Rudd a lap down.

But instead of Gordon keeping the lead, NASCAR put Kenseth back out front. And Busch and Rudd were allowed to make up a lap. Tuesday, Helton said that was the wrong call.

"The biggest reason I'm here today is to tell you that after the fact, if we had to do that call over again, we would do it different," Helton said. "In other words, we made a mistake Sunday making a call in a scenario of something we had never seen before when someone took the lead of the race and then gave it back."

Helton said NASCAR would not reverse its decision, and the results from Sunday's race remain official. Helton also said NASCAR would not change its rules regarding racing back to the caution.

"What happened to the leaders was their prerogative," Helton said. "What we did Sunday was interject NASCAR into the prerogative that we leave to the drivers. And we shouldn't have done that."

Helton pointed out the need to make quick decisions when a caution comes out because of potential danger on the track, and NASCAR will continue to tell the drivers that racing back to the caution is up to the leaders.

At Texas, Elliott Sadler spun on the backstretch to bring out a yellow. Kenseth slowed off turn 4 to let teammates Jeff Burton and Busch get a lap back, but Gordon sped past and beat Kenseth back to the start-finish line. Gordon also passed Busch and Rudd - who had gotten by Kenseth -- putting those two drivers a lap down.

"As it unfolded, it appeared the 24's intent was to keep lapped cars down more than to lead the race," Helton said. "We were faced with mostly a scoring issue at that point. Our two options were to recognize the 24 as the leader, and also recognize his decision to not keep the lead position. Our second choice was to recognize the 17 as the leader, and therefore give the 97 and the 21 their laps since they had passed him before they got to the start-finish line."

Gordon was angry at the decision after the race and criticized NASCAR for it. It wasn't the only controversy of the weekend. In Saturday's Busch Series race, NASCAR penalized Brian Vickers for passing to the left on a restart, even though Vickers wasn't completely by Chad Blount's car, which had moved right with an apparent problem. NASCAR deemed Vickers to be in the "act of passing" by pulling to Blount's left.

Helton called Sunday's decision a "procedure" and "scoring" call.

NASCAR has talked to drivers about changing the rules of racing back to the caution, but Helton said there's not a consensus. Plus, if NASCAR were to revert back to the last green flag lap or freeze the field, Helton said the sanctioning body can't be sure of every car's position.

"It's not possible for NASCAR, when a caution comes out, to be sure every spot out there -- even though we may declare that we're going to freeze the field -- it's not possible to be sure that that happens," Helton said. "Technology is getting to the point -- we've gone a long way, and we're close to it; we're just not there today -- to be able to give us the ability to 100 percent police that if we choose to do it."
 
Oh screw you Helton, what was left of your credibility was destroyed in February at Daytona. Keep cultivating your petrie-dish brand of racing and fattening your wallet, it's all you've got left....you're a laughing stock.
 
I can't believe they actually admitted they made a mistake !!!

? is if Bush or Bruton had went on to win the race would they ever admitted to a mistake ?

I THINK NOT !!!!!!! :bslfag:

Paul what don't you tell em what you really feel ?
Good to see you back around.
 
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Its easy to admit making a mistake when the deal is done and there is no way to change it.
 
The great and perfect Jabba...er....Mike Helton admitted a mistake. Be still my lunch! This does nothing to restore the credibility NASCAR has lost since the Helton regime. There is nothing they can do to fix the situation.

When we are finished in Iraq, maybe the Marines can put an end to the Helton regime and restore credibility to NASCAR. :bslfag:
 
Man we sure have put the... :bslfag: ...'s to work!! :lol:
 
I'm pretty certain you will find that this is an April Fools joke, no one in NASCAR would ever admit a mistake, and if they did and called it a "mistake" in public they would most likely be jobless.

Kel
 
I am not a big Gordon fan. Dut I do like him. And Nascar addmitting a mistake for last week. Will ste Gordon's mind at ease. After they took the lead away from him.
 
Maybe I'm just a moron but put your selves in his shoes. Big huh? Anyways, they have to make alot of calls and we need to expect a mistake every now and then. Its gonna happen.
 
I really don't think Mike Helton is the one that makes all these calls. I know Bill France Jr. still has a major influence on how the sport is run, so he likely makes some of the final decisions, and then leaves Mike to take the heat. Still, I really don't like him either way.
 
A little late now isn't it? I thought it was a terrible decision right away. They should have let Gordon have the lead he took. Matt voluntarily slowed down to let his teammates have a lap back. He slowed down to let someone pass and Jeff took that opportunity. It seemed pretty simple to me. I can't believe it took them so long to figure that out.
 
Believe me, Ricky Rudd was very confused by the whole thing. I thought the whole deal was a complete farce! Just like the black flag the day before! :angry:
 
I'll be the first to admit I'm not a big Gordon fan, but that call on Sunday was a crock.

Of course, admitting it was a mistake now doesn't help anyone and fixes nothing. :p
 
Gordon could have kept the lead if he wanted to, but he kept to the gentleman's agreement. He wanted to keep the cars a lap down, and that's what he did. Nascar made a bad call, but at least they were willing to admit it.
 
Originally posted by rpmallen@Apr 2 2003, 11:25 AM
Gordon could have kept the lead if he wanted to, but he kept to the gentleman's agreement. He wanted to keep the cars a lap down, and that's what he did. Nascar made a bad call, but at least they were willing to admit it.
rpm, what Gordon did and what happened are two completely different things. TWO of the drivers that Gordon was trying to keep a lap down, were GIVEN the lap back by NA$CAR! :angry:
 
Yeees, and if you read the article about Helton admitting he was wrong, the initial decision was made as it was because of scoring issues. They never had someone take the lead and then give it back to keep cars a lap down. Gordon could have kept the lead and then, although that would be breaking the gentlemen's agreement, he would have been the leader and the lap cars would have been a lap down. But giving the lead back after crossing the line is what confused the officials and led to the bad call. Not a good excuse, but from what I read, that appears to be what happened.
 
yes, rpm is right. But that still does not change the fact that nascar can "change" their mind about something after the fact, or admit that they made a mistake, and think it is going to make it all better because they say so........... Think again, NASCAR! :wacko:
 
It seems Gordon was wrong for giving the lead back to Kenseth, but his intent was to keep the others a lap down. If he was going to do that he should NOT have given the lead back to Kenseth.
Gordon was guilty of breaking the gentlemans agreement when he passed Kenseth for the lead regardless of what he intended. Kenseth broke the gentlemens agreement by slowing to let other cars pass something many drivers do but it sure opens a BIG door as was seen last Sunday. If he was going to let some pass, then any gentlemans agreement is out the window.

NASCAR should have stayed in the tower and kept thier mouth shut. If there was a need for a ruling on any part of that action, the ruling should have been to keep Gordon in the lead, Kenseth second and the other cars a lap down.
 
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