Hey Newman!!

lol i dont think Newman hit him on purpose, but then again i wasnt driving. It looked to me like the 20 came down at the same time the 12 was going up.
 
nah the 12 just went up just abit and collected the 20 car.
 
i think he just pushed up tho, it didnt look intentional
 
What I saw was a frustrated driver with no wins who knew this was his last chance to get into the Chase and he pushed the envelope and from what I saw got loose and collected Stewart with his impatience. JMO :cool:
 
fun_in_my_z said:
i think he just pushed up tho, it didnt look intentional
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oh i dont think it was iether...just got abit loose. that's hard racing.
 
Stewart definitely didn't come down. He was on old tires and Newman was on new tires. Another lap, he would have easily been around Stewart.
 
If you watched the slo-mo replay, Newman's front wheels were turned to right --- into the slide up the track. He went in hard, got loose, and tried to correct.

But it's pretty bad when you wreck the leader for no real reason. With new tires, he'd have been able to pass cleanly had he used patience.
 
It looked like Newman was fighting a tight race car pretty much the entire race up until that point. For one, Tony didn't give enough room to a guy who has fresher tires and, at the time, was the faster car. Why couldn't Stewart just let him by? It wasn't like Newman was battling him for the lead.
 
To me it looked like Newman went in way too deep in turn 3, his car broke loose, pushed up into Stewart and the rest is history. Newman drove in way too fast, IMO, but maybe he thought the car was going to stick...who knows.
 
I think it was Wally the one that commented it looked like Newman got back in the gas just before contact the way the front of the car raised up and lurched forward. If that was the case, that was not the spot to get back in the gas.
 
He was just driving like Stewart does on a weekly basis. Impatient.
 
A racing incident, nothing more or less.

Once again, Tony "know it all" Stewart, put himself in a bad position. Tony lets his stubborn streak get in the way ( a fault he and I have in common) and with all that is on the line, should find the "I'll show him" attitude, can be costly.

Ryan and Tony have an unspoken agreement to screw each other up by virtue of being stubborn. In this case, Ryan wouldn't let up and Tony wasn't going to let him pass. The old, "I'll show you" attitude. Way to go Tony !!!

End result, Tony gets to claim Ryan was impatient and Ryan gets to claim Tony was not practicing what he preaches about patience. Sound familiar ??? After all, who was really playing the part of the fool here ???? Both of them !!!

Tony likes to preach. Lord knows he does it enough if he feels someone has done him wrong on the track. Many times, Tony is the one, had he taken his own advice, would have been a victor rather than a victim. :)
 
What I don't understand is why Tony didn't just let Ryan go --- he had new tires and was faster.

I wonder if Tony was even told Ryan had made a stop and had new rubber.
 
Stewart is a great driver but I am so tired of him faulting every one but himself. Even when it's obvious. Has he ever, in his career, taken the blame for anything? He is such a whiney bastard.
 
TexasRaceLady said:
What I don't understand is why Tony didn't just let Ryan go --- he had new tires and was faster.

I wonder if Tony was even told Ryan had made a stop and had new rubber.
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Yeah, Zippy told TS that Ryan was coming and to let him go. Sometimes you make your own luck.
 
I seem to remember Tony saying he was tired of letting people go.. so instead of letting one more go he got wrecked.. too bad though, i personally think both drivers could have done things differently and both are at fault..
 
LeDoux22 said:
I seem to remember Tony saying he was tired of letting people go.. so instead of letting one more go he got wrecked.. too bad though, i personally think both drivers could have done things differently and both are at fault..
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Ditto on that. But regardless of who was at fault, only one of them was taken out of the chase and he could have prevented that from happening.

I have a problem with this though and it's called "points racing", something that I just loathe. On one hand, I say kudos to Tony for not giving an inch. This sport is called racing for good reason. But with what is on the line these days, it's more than just racing and this is where I think they should change the points system so that only those in the top ten or so in the race receive points. That will change much of the way they race these days and will bring back the art of actually racing someone again.
 
LeDoux22 said:
I seem to remember Tony saying he was tired of letting people go.. so instead of letting one more go he got wrecked.. too bad though, i personally think both drivers could have done things differently and both are at fault..
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As they say "it takes two to tango". :beerbang: :beerbang: :beerbang:
 
They both were racing as hard as they could, even though it wasn't very bright of either one of them. A racer will never get criticisized (badly) for racing hard, as long as he isn't making foolhardy moves. That's what they are supposed to do. It shows thay have the competitive spirit necessary to be winners. This was just another racing accident that I can't really fault either of them for. Neither of them will ever win a Matt Kenseth type of championship.
 
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