Horses lacking for Petty entries at Daytona

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Ward Burton

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DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- In the darkened Winston Cup garage area late Thursday night, crewmen were loading the No. 44 Dodge driven by Christian Fittipaldi on to the team's hauler.

Suddenly, the lights in the trailer went off.

It was that kind of night for Petty Enterprises. The lights went out on Fittipaldi and the No. 43 Dodge driven by Shane Hmiel, as neither were able to get their cars into the Pepsi 400 field at Daytona International Speedway.

And the third Petty car, the No. 45 driven by Kyle Petty, barely made it in the show, as Petty had to take the sixth of seven provisionals.

"It's pretty disappointing," team owner Richard Petty said. "You come to a race, you're supposed to be racing. But when you ain't got your stuff together, then this is what happens."

What went wrong? Simple, Kyle Petty said. The engines weren't up to snuff.

"It's the way things go, especially at a restrictor-plate race," Petty said. "Somewhere, we've gotten behind on our engines, and we just ain't caught up. It's been showing everywhere we've been, but it really showed up here.

"Mike's engines have been really, really good, but these are the same cars that we ran here before. We lost ground this time. You can't say it's got a lot to do with the cars. I've got to put all this on our engine department."

Petty Enterprises engines are built by Mike Ege Racing Engines, a company started before the 2002 season to exclusive construct engines for the Pettys. Ege came from Robert Yates Racing, long known as one of the best engine-building companies in NASCAR.

But Ege hasn't gained any horsepower on restrictor-plate engines. That doesn't sound too bad, but when you consider everyone else is gaining a few horsepower, the Pettys slide backwards.

"The engines are the same as they were," Kyle Petty said. "Our open-plate stuff has gotten worse and worse as the year's gone on. Our restrictor-plate stuff is not good."

Richard Petty agreed that the engines were to blame for the slow speeds. Petty was the fastest of the three cars, going 181.811 mph, but that was 0.788 seconds of Steve Park's pole-winning run.

Hmiel and Fittipaldi were 45th and 46th, respectively, of 47 cars. Both were more than a second slower than Park and more than three-tenths of a second slower than the 36th-place qualifier, Jeff Burton.

The No. 43 is out of provisionals, while the No. 44 was making its first start and was at the bottom of the list to be eligible for a provisional.

Since NASCAR started running at Daytona, the No. 43 car has failed to be in a race only six times.

But Richard Petty, who made the No. 43 famous, said that wasn't a big issue.

"No big deal," Petty said. "I wasn't driving. But it wasn't the driver's fault. The car's not there. It's not been there all day today. You can't blame the driver if the car don't run, especially down here. Anybody who see over the steering wheel can qualify a car here if the car's fast enough."

Hmiel also said his car lost second and third gear as he started off pit road, which slowed his progress to top speed.

Still, the engines were the bigger issue. Richard Petty said it had to be the engines, for bodies on all the cars are pretty close to the same.

"Especially with the common templates, our cars can't be that bad," Petty said. "A bunch of other Dodges are running good, a bunch of other Chevrolets are running good. They've got basically the same templates, and if we were wrong on the templates, we wouldn't get through inspection. From that standpoint, the bodies are not that bad.

"Where do you go? Especially with the restricted deal, you really look at the engines because you don't have to worry about the car handling or the driver not driving it in deep enough and getting sideways -- you don't get none of that."

But when engines are down on horsepower, what you get is a slow race car. And you get a few people named Petty who will have some words for their engine builders.

"We've got to go back and talk to the motor people, that's for dang sure," Richard Petty said.
 
Don't look good. Kyle took a prov. and Christan didn't make it at all.
 
That was a terrible showing for Petty Enterprises. They need to rethink both their open and restricted engine programs. Big changes need to be made there. Somehow, I don't think thsat getting rid of Andretti was a good move.
 
It made me sad to see them running that poorly at Daytona. I think they should switch to a different engine maker. I don't think Mike Ege is the answer. Is their anyway they could get someone like Ernie Elliott to build their motors?
 
I'm not sure what the answer is, but I find it refreshing that the Pettys are finally getting sick of the mediocrity that has been there for quite some time. It just doesn't seem right to see them be in the back of the pack on a consistent basis. I can't even imagine how it has to feel for Richard who was the winningest driver in Cup history (by far!) to come to the track every week just hopeing to get a top 20 finish. I don't know if dumping John was the right move or not, but sometimes you just have to "do something even if it's wrong". Kyle is a very good driver as he showed when he had decent equipment earlier in his career. I see him hanging it up in the next few years, but I really don't think he wants to go out like he has been doing.
 
I was sweating it if Kyle would get in the rae or not! Thank God Stacy did not get his car in the top 36 or all 3 PE cars could have gone home! I do belive the motors are the big problem at PE right now! I would like to see the 44 run as an R&D car for a few more races this year and work on motor stuff, either with Ege or another maker. Ege motors are very relaible but they are not fast! They were awsoem last year untill everyone eles caught up or passed them! I am now kind glad I am missing this race! I hope thy can get everythign turned aorund for the second half of the season, if not they could be missing alot of races to come! I just hope 2 or the 3 cars missing the race will set a fire under the team like DEI did when Park almost missed the Daytona 500 , after that is when DEI started to work hard on the plate stuff!


This is dissappointing but I am sticking with Kyle and all of PE! I know one of these days PE will again have both cars in the top 20 and possibly a contender for some wins!
 
Sometimes, just sometimes, the very best thing to happen is the dark clouds before the sun shines through. With the PEI entries, it might have made an impact when two teams failed to make the field but it would have made a bigger impact if all three didn't make the show. Kyle using six of seven provisionals?? Foreshame !!!!!! The only way the sun will shine for PEI is when they get things squared away to improve performance but for now they are running around in circles (no pun intended).

It seems as if the fans have a better pulse on what is wrong with PEI than PEI does. How many crappy finishes, failed qualifying runs or driver changes does it take to kick PEI in the proverbial butt to get thier attention. "The King" saying the engines having a lack of horsepower might very well be true, BUT, this is not something that happened overnight.
I've watched, followed and been a fan of the Petty organization since 1955 and it is humiliating to see the absolute best team ever in NASCAR reduced to a backpacker, an also ran. It is a disgrace for the sponsor, the owners and the fans who make excuses for poor performance while still offering allegiance. How long can the Petty name carry three such dismal teams??

It would be a confidence booster if Richard and Kyle got thier act together and hired a worthy driver and came away with a few top ten finishes before the years end. Either that or park the cars. No one needs to tell PEI management what must be done, but for sure, the embarrasment should stop. If not for the family name and traditions, then for the legion of fans. Most fans won't abandon PEI but the ones who believe in PEI really do deserve better.
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I couldnt agree more whizzer But i dont want to see them park something will turn around I think they were doing well towards the end of last season when Pemberton was running things but thats my opinion
 
I thought it was bad luck but i am a DIEHARD PE fan and i am always wondering whats going wrong well hopfully this answered my question as well as theirs
 
Did anyone see what Jayski said about Kyle....

UPDATE: After two of the team's three cars failed to qualify for the Pepsi 400, car owner and driver Kyle Petty was seen holding engine builder Mike Ege against the chain-linked fence in the garage area. Petty said Ege will continue to build engines for the team and that the two had a confrontation after time trials.(Florida Times Union)(7-5-2003)


That and his post race comment about the engine guys going to the track to "jac* off" shows his dissapointment in Ege's engines. I do find it odd how such and elite engine builder is now building "junk"
 
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