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we've beaten the horse till, quite frankly my arm is sore.....lol
Let's see what we think is RIGHT with NASCAR.

Double file restarts....... I love 'em. They make for closer racing, and they keep the racin between guys for position. AND they make for some pretty interesting pit calls late in the race with cauions.

TV- Hey, we can gripe about coverage, amount of commercials, and how annoying so and so is....... but if you grew up never knowing what Pocono track even looked like other than a description by Barney Hall...... ANYTHING we get on tv is great. Yea, it gets tedious sometimes, and they love to over explain the obvious as if we are grade schoolers..... but hay we can turn the volume....lol

Competition- We have more drivers now that on any given Sunday CAN win..... even though it may be from 3 teams...... it is still a different driver. If ya look back there have been era's where basically 1 of 3-4 drivers won 80% of the races......

COT- now I know I'll catch it over this, but I think the COT has added an old school twist. Drivers can (in theory) get a COT and run it at any track on the circuit, and run it multiple times with lil to no changes. Now NASCAR just needs to open up the rules, and help cut costs, and we could see the emergence of competitive independant teams again.

thats few..... I'm sure there are more, if not, we are really self hatin, pathetic people following a sport we hate, that we can find nothin good about......lol.

Oh yea, one other thing for me....... Mark Martin is winning again!!!!!!!!!!!!lol
 
The other thing about the COT is its safety. The pinballing Kyle did at Daytona and still be able to walk away from the car is still amazing. Hit the wall head on, rear ended at speed and then T-boned, any of those could have been serious in the old car.

OK, actually I'm kidding. Y'all know Kyle's secret right. He's really Superman and has a Fred Flintsone car where he can put his feet on the ground and run around the track toting the car. He doesn't want to tip his hand and have people guess his secret by winning all the races so he picks and chooses.
 
I also love the fact that Martin is winning big.

I also sort of enjoy the Kyle Busch vs the world angle.

And the foam safety barriers can save lives.

That's all I can think of. :D
 
Oh, I'm going to catch it now. The COT is/was a knee jerk reaction to Sr's death. There, I said it.

Bonnett, Irwin, Petty, Nemechek and Sr, all died of head injuries. A HANS device might have/could have saved all of them. Look at the wrecks of the 80's and 90's. Mikey wrecking at the old Bristol where the car literally disintegrated. Rusty, Newman, Casey Atwood, Rudd and the most famous one of Petty climbing the fence at Daytona. Bodine in a truck at Daytona. Gordon wide open into turn one at Pocono. Yes, Allision Sr got hurt at Pocono, another head injury.

Keep the foam in the side, get rid of the splitter and go back to the valance. Sell those stupid, IMHO of course, wings to the ijits who run Honda Civics with those 55 gallon drums for mufflers and go back to spoilers.

I feel much better now.:)
 
I like the wings personally. And considering it is more advertising space I doubt they go anywhere.
 
speedway, you hit it with TV. I well remember getting only snippets(if we were lucky) on Wide World of Sports. I may cuss commercials til I'm blue in the face, but they pay the bills and I get to see the race.

The SAFER barriers -- not only for NASCAR, but also Indy cars.

Closer competition --- yes, I know, it seems like there is no competition, but compared to the past where one car would win by LAPS instead of seconds, it is close racing.
 
The COT hasn't had a negative impact on the racing at all this year. In fact, it seems like it's made the racing better on the flat tracks (Pocono, Chicagoland, Loudon) and the road courses. Not to mention this car has allowed a few drivers to walk away from serious crashes. I'm not sure Kyle Busch, Carl Edwards or Michael McDowell would've walked away from their crashes if they were in the old car.

TV -- I don't mind commercials. It's when they have six minutes of commercial followed by two minutes of programming that gets on my nerves.:mad:

The "Wide Open" was great. And I'd think that'd be better from an advertiser standpoint. I usually DVR the night races and watch them the next day and skip through the commercials. If I had recorded Daytona, I would've been more exposed to the commercials since I could see the racing as well. Now, we need Bristol and Richmond Wide Open:growl::growl:

I could care less about the announcing as long as they do a decent job. But ESPN's coverage is so scripted they're doing specialty crap all the time when there's real racing going on. When they miss several lead changes (and not even run an instant replay) because they're updating us on where Jimmie, Jeffie and Junyer are running every second of the race:mad:, I get really annoyed. Show me the race, not the bull.

I appreciate the fact that I get to see the races, but it's a problem that the coverage has gone way down in quality when technology and everything else are improving. TNT did a great job utilizing modern technology, integrating it with their coverage and giving us quality coverage. ESPN and FOX just don't have it figured out... Hopefully they were taking notes while TNT did a fantastic job with their races.

Love him or hate him, Kyle Busch is good for the sport. He always gives fans something to talk about. People either love him, or love to hate him. NASCAR's needed someone who isn't so bland and dry and gets a rise out of fans. Just mentioning his name gets a rise out of those suffering from BDS (Busch Derangement Syndrome).

I'm glad to see Mark Martin kicking ass!:)
 
Safety - The death of Dale Earnhardt Sr sparked a huge change in this area. It's sad that it took his death to make these changes happen, but the sport is better for it. The CoT, SAFER barriers, and the HANS system have saved many drivers in the last 8 years. I think Dale would be proud of that.

TV - I'd hate to say it, but Fox helped a lot with this in 2001. As much as I complain about the TV coverage on certain channels, I'd rather have that then read about the race in the paper, or not know who won at all.

Competition - It's never been better. The races so far this year have an average margin of victory of just over 1 second. There have been 11 different winners, and 34 drivers have scored a top-10 finish so far. And we're only halfway through the season.

The Chase - Like it or not, the Chase has brought a new level of excitement to the sport. It may not be perfect, and will probably see a couple more revisions in the next few years, but it does the job. It gets people talking about who does or doesn't make it. The championship is always close, and each race is important.

Expanding - NASCAR is always trying to find ways to expand into new markets. 8 years ago Chicago hosted it's first Cup race in nearly 50 years. Kentucky will probably have a race in the next couple years. NASCAR has the Northwest and NYC still on their radar for hosting races. Nationwide has held races in both Canada and Mexico.
 
speedwayphoto said:
TV- Hey, we can gripe about coverage, amount of commercials, and how annoying so and so is....... but if you grew up never knowing what Pocono track even looked like other than a description by Barney Hall...... ANYTHING we get on tv is great. Yea, it gets tedious sometimes, and they love to over explain the obvious as if we are grade schoolers..... but hay we can turn the volume....lol
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I remember when the only live racing you saw on TV was the last 50 miles of the Daytona 500. There were a few races, edited, shown a week later on Wide World of Sports. And there was a show called "The Racers" that showed highlights of NASCAR, CART, USAC, and IROC races that usually aired 2-3 weeks after the race was run. So as much as some of the announcers and broadcasts annoy me from time to time, I am still thankful every race is on TV. I think it was about 14 or 15 years ago that one, if not both, Pocono races were only shown locally and even PPV.
 
Yep, having the races on TV LIVE is something that many of us now appreciate. But there is now a whole generation of fans that have always had the luxury of watching races live, not just a few, but all of them. The credit to this goes to ESPN who really got NASCAR going on the right foot back in 84. Even then, not all of the races were televised.

I too like the chase. And I like plate races. I like the old track at Bristol better, but the competition is better now than it used to be. And I like the fact that more drivers are capable of winning at any track.

AND I really love to listen to Barney and Joe on MRN.
 
speedwayphoto said:
we've beaten the horse till, quite frankly my arm is sore.....lol
Let's see what we think is RIGHT with NASCAR.

Double file restarts....... I love 'em. They make for closer racing, and they keep the racin between guys for position. AND they make for some pretty interesting pit calls late in the race with cauions.

TV- Hey, we can gripe about coverage, amount of commercials, and how annoying so and so is....... but if you grew up never knowing what Pocono track even looked like other than a description by Barney Hall...... ANYTHING we get on tv is great. Yea, it gets tedious sometimes, and they love to over explain the obvious as if we are grade schoolers..... but hay we can turn the volume....lol

Competition- We have more drivers now that on any given Sunday CAN win..... even though it may be from 3 teams...... it is still a different driver. If ya look back there have been era's where basically 1 of 3-4 drivers won 80% of the races......

COT- now I know I'll catch it over this, but I think the COT has added an old school twist. Drivers can (in theory) get a COT and run it at any track on the circuit, and run it multiple times with lil to no changes. Now NASCAR just needs to open up the rules, and help cut costs, and we could see the emergence of competitive independant teams again.

thats few..... I'm sure there are more, if not, we are really self hatin, pathetic people following a sport we hate, that we can find nothin good about......lol.

Oh yea, one other thing for me....... Mark Martin is winning again!!!!!!!!!!!!lol
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You pretty much nailed it. Not alot to add to that except maybe that Jeff is a contender almost every week again. LOVE IT.:D
 
Forgot to mention double-file restarts: One of the best choices NASCAR has made since The Chase.

Also with the TV coverage is the use of in-car and on-board cameras. Granted, they were first used in the 1979 Daytona 500, but they've remained in use through today. They're also using cameras like the pitcrew cam more often.

The Nextel/Sprint sponsor was also a good move. Although it was sad to see Winston go as the title sponsor, Nextel/Sprint has done an excellent job of bringing new technology to the sport. I swear by the Fan-view, and will never go back to an old-school scanner.

The Direct TV Hotpass is also nice, but needs more features and drivers.
 
foehammer111 said:
:beerbang::beerbang::beerbang::beerbang::beerbang:

Every sport needs a villian. NASCAR has been without one for too long.
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NASCAR needs a good rivalry. Right now, it's Shrub vs. NASCAR Nation. :D

And every week, Shrub wins because everyone's calling Dave Moody on Sirius Speedway to complain about him every day!
 
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
NASCAR needs a good rivalry. Right now, it's Shrub vs. NASCAR Nation. :D

And every week, Shrub wins because everyone's calling Dave Moody on Sirius Speedway to complain about him every day!
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It looks like they are trying hard to make a rivalry out of Kurt Busch and Johnson, but they need to clash a few more times and have some more nasty exchanges of words before they can actually call it a rivalry. It would definitely be good for ratings if a real rivalry would start out of it.
 
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