How do you feel about this quote?

[Benevolent One]

How do you feel about this quote? And pain in general.

“People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that’s bull****. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they’re afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they’re wrong. Pain is something to carry, like a radio. You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It’s all in how you carry it. That’s what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you’re letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain.”
― Jim Morrison

 

[Greg]

Morrison should have stayed clean and sober, and pursued the reality he professed to embrace.
Numbing himself out was 180° degrees apart from the professed quotation.

Jim Morrison is a trajedy, I would rather have young people connecting that point then cherishing his art.

 

[Greg]

How do you feel about this quote? And pain in general.

“People are afraid of themselves, of their own reality; their feelings most of all. People talk about how great love is, but that’s bull****. Love hurts. Feelings are disturbing. People are taught that pain is evil and dangerous. How can they deal with love if they’re afraid to feel? Pain is meant to wake us up. People try to hide their pain. But they’re wrong. Pain is something to carry, like a radio. You feel your strength in the experience of pain. It’s all in how you carry it. That’s what matters. Pain is a feeling. Your feelings are a part of you. Your own reality. If you feel ashamed of them, and hide them, you’re letting society destroy your reality. You should stand up for your right to feel your pain.”
― Jim Morrison

I dont have a problem with the expressed thought other than it being extreme.

Pain isnt something to celebrate or attach your signature too. It can be an opportunity for personal growth, because overcoming problems is a part of good character.

And people for the most part dont care about your pain they have enough of their own. His comments is more of a good sale for an artist. But for practical living embracing and magnifying the postives is better way of living.

If you want to write like Hank Williams live the quote, and you should be able to pen out some good pain. Otherwise I think not.

And Morrison got chicks because he was Morrison, and every day man would be babe repellent with that principle.

 

[Benevolent One]

I get that Greg. I've been getting a much greater understanding of pain myself over the past few years, though. In my opinion people often do mistake happiness with the avoidance of pain. Many times people avoid things that would benefit them greatly because it may be painful or uncomfortable in the short term.

There are, of course, two main types of pain; physical and emotional or mental.

Physical pain: All of us experience physical pain to varying degrees on a daily basis. I experience more than most as I have fibromyalgia, degenerative disk disorder and other issues in my back and neck and various other physical issues, so I've sort of gradually changed the way I look at it over time. I've faced the fact that in my case it will never get a whole lot better as the doctors have told me. So, I've developed better ways to deal with and live with it. There are still times when it kind of gets on top of me, when it just gets unbearable, and there is nothing I can do but medicate and go to bed for several hours. However, I'm getting better with it and those days are fewer and farther between.

Emotional pain: That is an entirely different ball game. We all experience that to varying degrees as well. I've always been pretty good at compartmentalizing certain issues. I've been able to tap into emotional pain to write some pretty incredible music over the years. I am a person who kind of enjoys a certain amount of melancholy sadness to some extent at times. Certainly not all the time, but I allow myself times to just sit and listen to sadder music, usually on a rainy day, and just wallow in it. The problem, of course, is when I let it get on top of me like it did recently. I felt just completely overwhelmed by my financial situation among other things. I'm working through it though and it is getting much better quickly.

 

[Greg]

I get that Greg. I've been getting a much greater understanding of pain myself over the past few years, though. In my opinion people often do mistake happiness with the avoidance of pain. Many times people avoid things that would benefit them greatly because it may be painful or uncomfortable in the short term.

There are, of course, two main types of pain; physical and emotional or mental.

Physical pain: All of us experience physical pain to varying degrees on a daily basis. I experience more than most as I have fibromyalgia, degenerative disk disorder and other issues in my back and neck and various other physical issues, so I've sort of gradually changed the way I look at it over time. I've faced the fact that in my case it will never get a whole lot better as the doctors have told me. So, I've developed better ways to deal with and live with it. There are still times when it kind of gets on top of me, when it just gets unbearable, and there is nothing I can do but medicate and go to bed for several hours. However, I'm getting better with it and those days are fewer and farther between.

Emotional pain: That is an entirely different ball game. We all experience that to varying degrees as well. I've always been pretty good at compartmentalizing certain issues. I've been able to tap into emotional pain to write some pretty incredible music over the years. I am a person who kind of enjoys a certain amount of melancholy sadness to some extent at times. Certainly not all the time, but I allow myself times to just sit and listen to sadder music, usually on a rainy day, and just wallow in it. The problem, of course, is when I let it get on top of me like it did recently. I felt just completely overwhelmed by my financial situation among other things. I'm working through it though and it is getting much better quickly.

I wish you the best and know your challanges are genuine.

Denial can be overrated though and I have accomplished a few good things because I was to dumb or simple to consider my limitations.

Even in love denial helps a little, it has blinded me from seeing her flaws. Or another way of saying it would be the ability to forgive, and virtually forget, an absolute necessity for the long haul imo.

Pain imo just doesn't have the value that Morrison tried to assign.

Let me counter with a wiser man : The Apostle Paul a brilliant man was a prisoner when he wrote about being a content and peaceful man.

I also think if one dwells on their pain bitterness becomes an attachment and life is too short for that kind waste imo.

If you can convince yourself that you are fortunate, your biggest loss will be from weak minds who cant understand your cheerfulness. Thats a good thing.

 

[BobbyFord]

As far as emotional pain goes, I believe that it is subjective. Not everyone's pain threshold is the same. People are affected differently and thus deal differently with emotional pain based on their ability to assess and control their own thought processes. I think it depends on the overall mental health of the individual and also whether or not the individual is under the influence of drugs, illicit or prescribed, and/or alcohol.

 

[Benevolent One]

I wish you the best and know your challanges are genuine.

Denial can be overrated though and I have accomplished a few good things because I was to dumb or simple to consider my limitations.

Even in love denial helps a little, it has blinded me from seeing her flaws. Or another way of saying it would be the ability to forgive, and virtually forget, an absolute necessity for the long haul imo.

Pain imo just doesn't have the value that Morrison tried to assign.

Let me counter with a wiser man : The Apostle Paul a brilliant man was a prisoner when he wrote about being a content and peaceful man.

I also think if one dwells on their pain bitterness becomes an attachment and life is too short for that kind waste imo.

If you can convince yourself that you are fortunate, your biggest loss will be from weak minds who cant understand your cheerfulness. Thats a good thing.

Philippians 4:11 Not that I speak in respect of want, for I have learned in whatever state I am, therewith to be content.

I have planned on getting that tattooed for a long time, but just haven't figured out how and where I want it. The thing is, I feel that understanding my circumstance is critical to being truly content.