How the game of Miller-Coors keep away came to be, and why Bud may have left the Shootout.

FenderBumper

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1979 - 2008 bud shootout eligibility:
There were two ways to become eligible for the Budweiser Shootout:
1) win a pole the previous season.
2) Be a past winner of the Budweiser Shootout and attempted a race in the previous season.
2008 switch to Coors pole award.
Coors Light announced it will replace Budweiser as the sport's official beer in 2008. The five-year, $20 million deal includes renaming the Sprint Cup pole award to the Coors Light Pole Award from the Bud Pole Award, but does not impact the Budweiser Shootout exhibition race that annually kicks off Speedweeks at Daytona International Speedway.
2009 bud shootout eligibility: (Manufacturer wildcards added)
1) win a pole the previous season.
2) Be a past winner of the Budweiser Shootout and attempted a race in the previous season.
3) Any owner outside of the top six in year end 2008 owners’ points whose driver is a past NASCAR Sprint Cup Series champion that attempted to qualify for all of the 2008 events (only one position will be filled per manufacturer and will be based on the most recent past champion per manufacturer).
4) If an owner/manufacturer does not have a past champion driver, the next highest eligible owner outside the top six in year end 2008 owners’ points from each manufacturer will be eligible to compete in the event

2010 bud shootout eligibility: (Millerlite makes it in)
1) Top 12 drivers who qualified for the 2009 Chase
2) Past Sprint Cup Champion
3) Past Budweiser Shootout Champion
4) Past Daytona 500 champion or past Coke Zero 400 champion
5) Reigning rookie of the year

2011 bud shootout eligibility: (Millerlite qualified under 2010 rules but is excluded by new rules)
* The 12 drivers who qualified for the 2010 Chase
* Past Sprint Cup champions
* Past Budweiser Shootout champions
* Past Daytona points race winners
* Cup rookie of the year drivers from 2001-2010

2012 bud shootout eligibility: (Millerlite qualified under 2010 rules but is excluded by new rules)
* The 25 drivers who finished in the top 25 in drivers points in 2011
* Past Budweiser Shootout champions
* Past Daytona points race winners

Budweiser is clearly tayloring rules to keep the competition out.

Then this in February, 2102.
From 1979-2008 the Budweiser Shootout — which started as the Busch Clash — was open to those drivers who had won a pole in the previous season or who had won a Budweiser Shootout and attempted a race in the previous season. Those rules will now be back in effect for 2013, meaning that the pole-winning car during Sunday's Daytona 500 qualifying will already be entered into next year's race assuming the pole winner isn't a former Shootout champion.
"Fans have expressed their desire to see this event return to its original eligibility rules," Steve O'Donnell, NASCAR senior VP of racing operations said in a release. "We listened and decided it would be best to return to the eligibility rules of years past adding further meaning to pole qualifying for each NASCAR Sprint Cup race."

Millerlite is out for 2013, but Budweiser has lost the ability to keeps the Millerlite car out of the shootout in the future. I like that the charade is over, even thought the Millerlite car is again excluded. I hope nascar keeps it like this no matter who sponsors the shootout, because things were getting convoluted with ROTY and Daytona winners thrown in to fill out the field.

It's kind of sheety that NASCAR undermined a loyal sponsor like Budweiser by selling the pole award to the highest bidder, a competitor of Budweiser, when the pole award was such an integral part of the Bud shootout. Once again, the France family goes for the buck and shoots themselves in the foot.
 
A grand conspiracy to keep Miller out of the competition. :rolleyes: Yeah, okay. Like I said in the other Shootout thread, they got it back to the way it should be. It makes sense again IMO. Mistakes are being realized and corrections are being made. That's a good thing.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
A grand conspiracy to keep Miller out of the competition. :rolleyes: Yeah, okay.
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Why not? You have something against conspiracies?

dpkimmel2001 said:
Like I said in the other Shootout thread, they got it back to the way it should be. It makes sense again IMO. Mistakes are being realized and corrections are being made. That's a good thing.
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Ummm, yeah. That's what I said.
 
Some recent Shootout finishes for the Miller Lite car

2009 - Miller Lite - Kurt Busch finished 9th
2010 - Miller Lite - Kurt Busch finished 23rd
2011 - Miller Lite - Brad Keselowski didn't qualify
2012 - Miller Lite - Brad Keselowski finished 4th
2013 - Miller Lite - Brad Keselowski didn't qualify

Keselowski did nothing in his 2010 season to make his way into the 2011 running of the Shootout.

The 2013 Shootout rules were announced at the beginning of the 2012 season. All he had to do is make a pole. He didn't.

No black helicopters here IMO.
 
Cue up Hank Juniors "There is a tear in my beer"
 
Hey, what do you guys think about all those Coors poll winners being left off the Bud shootout roster? Eh, it was probably just an oversight. :rolleyes:
 
FenderBumper said:
Brad won a Pole in 2010. :p
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Unfortunately for him, that wasn't part of their criteria for making the shootout that year. Had Kurt not been pulled out of the #2 and put in the #22 for the 2011 season the Miller Lite car would have made the race that year too because Kurt did qualify for the 2011 shootout. Not only did he qualify, he won driving the Shell/Pennzoil car. So, the way I read this, the only thing that has kept the Miller Lite car out of the shootout is Brad Keselowski. :p
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
Unfortunately for him, that wasn't part of their criteria for making the shootout that year. Had Kurt not been pulled out of the #2 and put in the #22 for the 2011 season the Miller Lite car would have made the race that year too because Kurt did qualify for the 2011 shootout. Not only did he qualify, he won driving the Shell/Pennzoil car. So, the way I read this, the only thing that has kept the Miller Lite car out of the shootout is Brad Keselowski. :p
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So we're back to a conspiracy against Brad? When he gets a pole, change the rules. When he wins a championship, change the rules again.

Sounds good to me, dpk. Lets go with that one. :p
 
ted@economy said:
I don't think that the stupid shoot-out rules have been changed as often as the stupid all-star rules.
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So we're in agreement, both events are stupid? At least the Shoot-Out's rule changes only affect who gets in and not the actual race itself. The All-Star is a big fat waste of a weekend.
 
BobbyFord said:
Events? What events? I thought this thread was about hot product models :confused:
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Greg said:
Yes, yes my Friend, thou surely doest speak'th truth.
Some things exceed car brands, coca or pepsi , beer rivals even international friction.

There also many blessed women all over the world, wanting to bless us with world peace.
Friends these spiritual Eastern European angels below deserve our most earnest meditations.

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I'd pay good money for the search history on your computer! I'm going back to the link, see you guys tomorrow:D
 
PSA:

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A little BS controversy for the opening sub plot, followed up with the all important eye candy.
 
Greg said:
PSA:

The President of the Internets just called me on the phone. He was overjoyed and touched, and believes this thread honours the true purposes the internet.

A little BS controversy for the opening sub plot, followed up with the all important eye candy.
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I want to know why none of those girls were holding Millerlite. :mad:
 
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