I like the way this guy thinks! :)

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http://www.racingone.com/column.asp?artnum=19922

Matt McLaughlin

my favorite paragraph...

A caution flew again, necessarily in this case when Dale Jarrett and Jeff Burton suffered synchronized engine failures. That caution flew as the leaders approached to start the lap beyond which NASCAR said that no red flag would be flown to allow the race to end under green. Had the cars been stopped prior to the start finish line, it still would have been possible to have the race finish under green. And word went out over the official frequency the red flag was to be displayed. The field was in fact stopped and bunched up. But the red flag never flew. To add to the merriment Kevin Harvick protested a racing incident involving he and Matt Kenseth by spinning the 17 car under caution. Kenseth drove back around the track and passed Harvick to resume his position in line as the rules would seem to indicate he should have since the field was frozen at the nearest scoring loop when the yellow flew. The rule also states that a driver must stay up to pace car speed to maintain his position but when a driver is purposely spun out it doesn't seem his fault he fell under that speed. And NASCAR should have immediately black-flagged Harvick for that incident. When they chose not to it was a further sign they've lost control of the sport. So Kenseth took matters into his own hands (unwisely) and spun out Harvick under caution as well. Kenseth deserves some sort of sanction. But Harvick needs some swift, severe and certain punishment, not some wishy-washy probation, because once he starts a reign of terror nothing less seems to stop him. And considering Richard Childress shows no signs of holstering his twin weapons in the 29 and 31 cars it falls to NASCAR to do it for him.

a little later in the article...

After the race Kevin Harvick, who'd been listed as finishing tenth was demoted to twentieth either for conduct detrimental to the sport of stock car racing or for being a genuinely loathsome and dangerous SOB.
 
He does have some good points!, but why call the 31 a weapon? from what i have seen he has kept his nose clean this year but a few wrecks that he cause.

I think they should of also moved back the 17 9 pos. just as they did Harvick.......now (if they have not already) Harvick would have lost like 50 or so points and Matt just 25 cause he pitted and was already on the tail end of the lead lap.
 
of course matt did nothing wrong in your eyes,
let's face facts hear Kevin is an a......, however Matt is no angel in this case.
Personally i think nascar should take care of the big problems and leave the little stuff like this to the drivers to decide. this sport is leaning way to close to the wine and cheese crowd. the things that made the sport what it was are going fast and in the process they are going to lose a lot of us OLD fans.
 
I have seen nothing from the #31 this year that would make me, or anyone else for that matter, think that he is a weapon.
 
I've read a lot of Matt McLaughlin articles, and I've seen nothing from him that comes close to telling me he's a real reporter. He sits at home on his couch and watches the races just like you and I then writes articles about them. I'd believe Mike Mulhern before I would anything Matt writes. IMO his articles are Always colored to his agenda.
 
I must agree, I can't find any reason to lump Robby Gordon in with the rest of the RCR Goon Squad this year. Maybe he meant the 30.

The thought I keep having is this: Put Dale Earnhardt in the 17 and most anyone in the 29. Let the exact same pass/cutoff/squeeze play be executed by the 29 and what do you think the 17 with Dale aboard would have done? A lot more than bump him a little in the straightaway I bet. And of course, the crowd would have loved it and defended him for it. Matt's a jerk for doing less than the prior occupant of the 29 would have done. Funny, huh?
 
Originally posted by Lap3Forever@Jun 15 2004, 12:31 PM
He does have some good points!, but why call the 31 a weapon? from what i have seen he has kept his nose clean this year but a few wrecks that he cause.

I think they should of also moved back the 17 9 pos. just as they did Harvick.......now (if they have not already) Harvick would have lost like 50 or so points and Matt just 25 cause he pitted and was already on the tail end of the lead lap.
People keep saying it would only be 25 pts to matt because he was already back there. Do you think Matt would have pitted with 3 laps to go if everything was fine?????????

Matt probably had a tire going down due to the extracirricular activities?!?!?!?!?!?!!
 
I'm pretty near positive that Matt has never held any kind of media credentials at any top tier NASCAR event.
If he has, there doesn't seem to be any record at any of the tracks or with NASCAR. (This was of a couple of years ago.)

When I asked him about his qualifications as a NASCAR "Insider", he told me that he was really into muscle cars, owns an antique fire truck, raced a street stock once or twice, was an avid historian, (he informed me that my understanding of the civil war was completely wrong, but that's another story altogether) and that he was also an avid fan of NASCAR.

I still have no idea what makes him an "insider", but he did inform me the he even gets paid for his opinions. (I hope the pay isn't based on the actual worth!)

He told me all about the condition of the track here at NHIS and how bad the races were, how nasty the fans were, etc., and on that score I know that he has never made the trip from Philadelphia to find out facts for himself. I even offered him a place to stay and an introduction to the owners and PR people here at the track; he never did answer.

I haven't bothered to maintain any sort of communication with Matt since that time.
It's obvious that as far as he's concerned NASCAR neither can nor will, ever make a logical or proper decision; he feels he is, as an internet journalist, in a much better position to judge what is best for stockcar racing and the fans.

Please notice that I didn't mention growth of the sport.
Matt would have everything go back to around 1980 or so, everyone race the old Chevy Monte Carlo's and Ford Thunderbirds complete with the cigarette lighter in the dash for the drivers, single layer suits, open face helmets, no gloves, head restraints, and well, I think maybe you all get the idea.

He is also very biased with his opinions about some of the driver's and makes sure everybody who reads his dribble knows it. Just ask him how he feels about Robby Gordon sometime!
 
I had to stop reading at 17 Fans favorite part because I thought I was going to puke.
I'm new around here and I won't give the my new peers a hard time but to say I strongly disagree.

This whole 17 /29 feud is going off the deep end inthe real world too. Yesterday, I had a guy in a Blazer decorated with 17 stickers cut me off while I was driving in my #29 decorated chevy truck. I tail-gated for a minute until I realized what I was doing...
 
Originally posted by Eagle1@Jun 15 2004, 03:30 PM
I've read a lot of Matt McLaughlin articles, and I've seen nothing from him that comes close to telling me he's a real reporter. He sits at home on his couch and watches the races just like you and I then writes articles about them. I'd believe Mike Mulhern before I would anything Matt writes. IMO his articles are Always colored to his agenda.
I agree 100% :cheers: All I ever see him write about is to complain about something or another. Read some of his post over at their forum at racing one.
 
Originally posted by boB@Jun 15 2004, 03:44 PM
I'm pretty near positive that Matt has never held any kind of media credentials at any top tier NASCAR event.
If he has, there doesn't seem to be any record at any of the tracks or with NASCAR. (This was of a couple of years ago.)

When I asked him about his qualifications as a NASCAR "Insider", he told me that he was really into muscle cars, owns an antique fire truck, raced a street stock once or twice, was an avid historian, (he informed me that my understanding of the civil war was completely wrong, but that's another story altogether) and that he was also an avid fan of NASCAR.

I still have no idea what makes him an "insider", but he did inform me the he even gets paid for his opinions. (I hope the pay isn't based on the actual worth!)

He told me all about the condition of the track here at NHIS and how bad the races were, how nasty the fans were, etc., and on that score I know that he has never made the trip from Philadelphia to find out facts for himself. I even offered him a place to stay and an introduction to the owners and PR people here at the track; he never did answer.

I haven't bothered to maintain any sort of communication with Matt since that time.
It's obvious that as far as he's concerned NASCAR neither can nor will, ever make a logical or proper decision; he feels he is, as an internet journalist, in a much better position to judge what is best for stockcar racing and the fans.

Please notice that I didn't mention growth of the sport.
Matt would have everything go back to around 1980 or so, everyone race the old Chevy Monte Carlo's and Ford Thunderbirds complete with the cigarette lighter in the dash for the drivers, single layer suits, open face helmets, no gloves, head restraints, and well, I think maybe you all get the idea.

He is also very biased with his opinions about some of the driver's and makes sure everybody who reads his dribble knows it. Just ask him how he feels about Robby Gordon sometime!
boB, you said it so much better than I did. LOL Oh yeah and ask him about TS. :D Seeing as how Tony, Robby, Greg are some of my favorites, I don't have a lot in common with Matt, ( then throw in I'm much smarter. ;) it puts us miles apart. LOL)
 
the 31 a weapon? I'd call the rolling wrecks out on the track more of a weapon than Robby, especially this year. I seem to recall a mcmurray/kenseth incident earlier this year prior to the harvick/kenseth incident. Not saying Kenset is a weapon, but his track record for involvement in melee's this year makes him more of a weapon than robby...who had NOTHING to do with the entire incident...why? He was too busy running in the top ten.
 
Originally posted by esorlxaw@Jun 15 2004, 04:22 PM
.....this year makes him more of a weapon than robby...who had NOTHING to do with the entire incident...why? He was too busy running in the top ten.
:cheers: :cheers:
 
ok gollum, you had me believing my memeory was actually that bad. This article (however biased and ignorant the writer may be) seems to indicate 17 did try to resume his previous position before 29 punted him around. I'm NOT nuts!!! whaaaahoooo!! Again, my opinion to which I'm entitled: 17 should not have been placed/scored behind the punter (aka 29) (31 is cool with me this year as is spencer, previous loose cannons who had their wings clipped) (excuse the mixed metaphors there and abundance of ()).
 
doesnt anybody else know that matt brake checked harvick under cautionand thats why he proceeded to push him out of the way and he did his own doughnut in the grass?????????!!! cmon now, read
 
Originally posted by 17_Fan@Jun 15 2004, 01:09 PM
Kenseth deserves some sort of sanction. But Harvick needs some swift, severe and certain punishment, not some wishy-washy probation, because once he starts a reign of terror nothing less seems to stop him.
This is nothing but a biased crock of sh!t.
 
I guess everyone forgot that Kenseth wrecked Harvick at Martinsville earlier this year... hmmmm... selective memory.
 
Originally posted by slick-nick@Jun 16 2004, 12:45 AM
I guess everyone forgot that Kenseth wrecked Harvick at Martinsville earlier this year... hmmmm... selective memory.
A NASCAR fan with selective memory? :huh:
What race were these people watching that they still call Happy the aggressor? Y
 
It doesn't really matter. They both behaved like spoiled brats and they both deserve to be punished.
 
Originally posted by TonyB@Jun 16 2004, 09:29 AM
It doesn't really matter. They both behaved like spoiled brats and they both deserve to be punished.
:cheers: :cheers: :cheers:
 
Originally posted by TonyB@Jun 16 2004, 09:29 AM
It doesn't really matter. They both behaved like spoiled brats and they both deserve to be punished.
:cheers:
 
Originally posted by RobbyG Fan@Jun 15 2004, 01:16 PM
I have seen nothing from the #31 this year that would make me, or anyone else for that matter, think that he is a weapon.
Not sure why he put the #31 in there either...the only thing I could think of was the wreck with the #12?
 
Originally posted by 66mustang@Jun 15 2004, 09:48 PM
Wow. Harvick is a weapon and Kenseth isn't.

I like it when Harv fans start to admit the truth! :lol:
 
Originally posted by SC_29er@Jun 15 2004, 02:55 PM
This whole 17 /29 feud is going off the deep end inthe real world too. Yesterday, I had a guy in a Blazer decorated with 17 stickers cut me off while I was driving in my #29 decorated chevy truck. I tail-gated for a minute until I realized what I was doing...
Sorry about your incident. 99% of Matt's fans aren't like that. Of course, 99% of his fans don't drive Blazers either. :)
 
Originally posted by Georgia Jeff@Jun 16 2004, 12:51 AM
ok gollum, you had me believing my memeory was actually that bad. This article (however biased and ignorant the writer may be) seems to indicate 17 did try to resume his previous position before 29 punted him around. I'm NOT nuts!!! whaaaahoooo!! Again, my opinion to which I'm entitled: 17 should not have been placed/scored behind the punter (aka 29) (31 is cool with me this year as is spencer, previous loose cannons who had their wings clipped) (excuse the mixed metaphors there and abundance of ()).
Yes you ar intitled to your opinion. But if you look back at the post. I said nothing about where Kenseth was to be placed. Harvick may have pulled a bonehead stunt by spinning Kenseth.So that makes Kenseth just as big a bonehead by spinning Harvick. So they were both in the wrong and got equal punishment. The way it should be.
 
Originally posted by boB@Jun 15 2004, 04:44 PM
I still have no idea what makes him an "insider", but he did inform me the he even gets paid for his opinions. (I hope the pay isn't based on the actual worth!)

Please notice that I didn't mention growth of the sport.
Matt would have everything go back to around 1980 or so, everyone race the old Chevy Monte Carlo's and Ford Thunderbirds complete with the cigarette lighter in the dash for the drivers, single layer suits, open face helmets, no gloves, head restraints, and well, I think maybe you all get the idea.
He sounds like a repetitive poster on 4m. :D :rolleyes:
 
Matt also hates anyone from the West Coast and the Southwest, feels there should be no NA$CAR west of the Mississippi and all the while does not even attend races.

He rips apart tracks and towns he has never been to.

The fact that hack is paid for the crap he writes is amazing.

He is just a lonely bald old man who sits around drinking beer all day and surfing the net.
 
Lots of good readin here. Lots of good peeples
opinions. Respect them all.
Two boys got heated up on the track and bumped each other around.
Yes, penalties were called for. Both knew better.

But Ya gota leave Robby out of this. He has been one of the
good guys this year.
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