IndyCar: Grand Prix of Sonoma

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  1. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

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  2. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Hinch does a 180 in Turn 2 and plants the right side against the tire barrier. Doesn't look like much damage, maybe just the right front wing.
     
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  3. Charlie Spencer

    Charlie Spencer Short tracks and road courses rule.

    Then Hinch spins it again entering the hairpin late in the session but doesn't make contact with anything.
     
  4. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Man, I feel horrible for Gabby this year man. Harding was a new team and honestly I think he got ****** over with Herta and O'Ward coming in. It sucks to see because he's had some good runs for the team this year.

    Herta and O'Ward bring in that funding though. I wish the best for Gabby because he really got the raw deal this year.
     
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  5. Reck

    Reck Enrique?

    I have mixed feelings about this race. Being that it has double points and all.

    The thing that screwed Montoya a few years ago is the thing that could save Rossi this time. Back then I wished Dixon could go fly a kite. This time, I want him to win it.
     
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  6. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    A double points finale is a crappy gimmick, and yet if any half-measure like this prevents a 'playoffs' from being instituted, so be it. At least Dixon is still rightfully in place to win it based on season-long performance.

    The IndyCar points scale is also reasonably fair in how it balances rewarding wins and consistency. I'd perhaps go 50-35-30-27-25 down to a flat 5 points after 15th, but it's close enough.
     
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  7. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

  8. Reck

    Reck Enrique?

    I feel like there has been a significant tipping point between NASCAR and Indycar. With Indycar looking like a better avenue for new up and coming drivers to go and thrive. Also the sport itself feels like its gaining more traction as NASCAR's wane.

    Man, if Alonso decides to jump in, it will solidify the Indycar series as the main event in the US.
     
  9. Reck

    Reck Enrique?

    I love Kanaan. I hate to see him struggle so mightily year in and year out.
     
  10. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Big debut weekend from Pato O'Ward so far. Colton Herta has gotten most of the hype, but Pato kicked some major ass in Lights this year.

    It's going to take a lot for Rossi to pull this out, but I'm pulling for him. Three consecutive first-time champs would be cool.

     
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  11. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    ...Here are the scenarios by which Scott Dixon can win his fifth career IndyCar championship.

    With a win…Dixon will clinch the championship with 698 points
    With a 2nd place finish…Dixon will clinch the championship with 678 points

    With a 3rd place finish…Dixon will have 668 points
    Alexander Rossi must finish in second place (649 points) or lower

    With a 4th place finish Dixon will have 662 points
    Rossi must finish in second place (649 points) or lower

    With a 5th place finish…Dixon will have 658 points
    Rossi must finish in second place (649 points) or lower

    With a 6th place finish…Dixon will have 654 points
    Rossi must finish in second place (649 points) or lower

    With a 7th place finish…Dixon will have 650 points
    Rossi must finish in second place (649 points) or lower

    With an 8th place finish…Dixon will have 646 points
    Rossi must finish in third place (639 points) or lower

    With a 9th place finish…Dixon will have 642 points
    Rossi must finish in third place (639 points) or lower

    With a 10th place finish…
    Dixon will have 638 pointsRossi must finish in fourth place (633 points) or lower

    With an 11th place finish…Dixon will have 636 points
    Rossi must finish in fourth place (633 points) or lower

    With a 12th place finish… Dixon will have 634 points
    Rossi must finish in fourth place (633 points) or lower

    With a 13th place finish…Dixon will have 632 points
    Rossi must finish in fifth place (629 points) or lower

    With a 14th place finish…Dixon will have 630 points
    Rossi must finish in fifth place (629 points) or lower

    With a 15th place finish Dixon will have 628 points
    Rossi must finish in sixth place (625 points) or lower

    With a 16th place finish…Dixon will have 626 points
    Rossi must finish in sixth place (625 points) or lower

    With a 17th place finish…Dixon will have 624 points
    Rossi must finish in seventh place (621 points) or lower

    With a 18th place finish…Dixon will have 622 points
    Rossi must finish in seventh place (621 points) or lower

    With a 19th place finish…Dixon will have 620 points
    Rossi must finish in eighth place (617 points) or lower

    With a 20th place finish…Dixon will have 618 points
    Rossi must finish in eighth place (617 points) or lower

    With a 21st place finish…Dixon will have 616 points
    Rossi must finish in ninth place (613 points) or lower

    With a 22nd place finish…Dixon will have 614 points
    Rossi must finish in ninth place (613 points) or lower

    With a 23rd place finish…Dixon will have 612 points
    Rossi must finish in 10th place (609 points) or lower

    With a 24th place finish…Dixon will have 610 points
    Rossi must finish in 10th place (609 points) or lower
    Josef Newgarden must finish in second place (591 points) or lower
    Will Power must finish in second place (591 points) or lower

    With a 25th place finish or lower…
    Dixon will have 608 points
    Rossi must finish in 11th place (607 points) or lower
    Newgarden must finish in second place (591 points) or lower
    Power must finish in second place (591 points) or lower

    By not racing…
    Dixon will have 598 points
    Rossi must finish in 16th place (597 points) or lower
    Newgarden must finish in second place (591 points) or lower
    Power must finish in second place (591 points) or lower...


    The above scenarios are selected snips from the following link.
    https://beyondtheflag.com/2018/09/06/indycar-2018-championship-clinching-scenarios-sonoma-raceway/

    Note: This list does not consider laps led bonus.
     
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  12. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

    Rossi with a flat and wing damage
     
  13. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    That was a suboptimal start.
     
  14. Reck

    Reck Enrique?

    Rossi Might not even finished in second place in the standings. LOL
     
  15. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    No Rossi sympathy caution? !
    I never seen the day.
    What a contrast they act serious about this stuff.
     
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  16. Mispeedway15

    Mispeedway15 Team Owner

    I’ll tell ya what I love how F1 does it. I wish other forms of racing did
     
  17. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

    Really hoping bad luck bites Dixon, I can't stand him. Come on Rossi.
     
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  18. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    The range I had seen was 23-25 laps at max between pit stops. Rossi trying to do this on two more stops seems incredibly unlikely, but I guess they need to run in the exact opposite direction of whatever Dixon does.
     
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  19. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

    Having been introduced to Sonoma through NASCAR, after they changed how they run the course of always throws me off to see the course Indycars run.
     
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  20. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    I like Brian Herta so much. I hope his son has a great career.
     
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  21. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    Boy!! Ryan Hunter Reay is really kickin' some tail right now.
     
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  22. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

  23. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Abdullah has been pretty bold near both title contenders already.
     
  24. kkfan91

    kkfan91 Taking a 10-200

    Well then...now its interesting
     
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  25. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    Wouldn't it be something if Andretti won this?

    :)
     
  26. Reck

    Reck Enrique?

    These guys are under the impression Rossi is going to inevitably win this race. Lol
     
  27. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    It's an absolute cluster in the midfield. RHR needs to keep Dixon behind at all costs while Rossi picks his way through.

    Huge dive by Rossi on Newgarden. This is getting good.
     
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  28. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Rossi is just letting it all hang out.
     
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  29. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    He is really driving his heart out.
     
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  30. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    This is the biggest field in sometime and its showing.
     
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  31. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    Dixon and Rossi are the only two in the top five on blacks to the finish. That should about do it, barring any caution or mechanical failure.
     
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  32. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Horseshoe wedged up his ass.

    Now if Chip can have that same success in NASCAR...
     
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  33. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    Kimball hasn't done too well this year. He might be out of a job next year.
     
  34. Kiante

    Kiante Team Owner

    Triseba money will say otherwise, but I think Carlin would be smart to keep Chilton and Kimball for year two.
     
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  35. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    172 days.
    4 hours
    12 minutes

    Til St. Petersburg.

    :)
     
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  36. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    Dixon pulls in another one!!
     
  37. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    He sure has an awesome looking helmet.
     
  38. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    I thought it wasn't bad for a Sonoma race, although I can't really say I'll miss this place going forwards. Hopefully Laguna Seca pans out. It at least has a history and aura that Sonoma never will.

    Very fun season overall; I think they killed it with the new aero on the street circuits, road courses, and short ovals. The three superspeedways probably left something to be desired with the increased turbulent air coming off of the cars there.

    Breakout season for Rossi. He's going to be a star for years to come, and hopefully he'll have a lot more battles with Wickens in the future. For the foreseeable future I think IndyCar is in a pretty decent spot.
     
  39. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    2nd that about Rossi. I think he's the star of the future. I'm hoping for Wicken's return by St. Petersburg.
     
  40. Jimmy W1

    Jimmy W1 Team Owner

    I was just looking at the top four drivers: 1st - 2nd- and third places this year. Correct me if I am wrong.

    Dixon 1)- three
    2)- two
    3)- four


    Rossi 1)- three
    2)- one
    3)- four

    Power 1)- three
    2)- three
    3)- two

    Hunter-Reay 1)- two
    2)- four
    3)- ------


    That extra second place won it for Dixon.
     

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