Is the school bully a problem?

Oh my God! Kids are being bullied at school? When did this start? We MUST put an end to this appalling trend.

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bullying has been around for a long long time but its a fact it has gottin so bad that some kids are affraid to go to school and it causes them to have other larger problems later on in life.
 
It's because we sissify our children, expecially the boys.

Teach the kid to throw a few punches, go to school and kick the bully's ass, end of "emotional problems".
 
yea paul what about kids that are diffrent and you have multiple other kids picking on him. not every type of abuse is physical.
 
Kids in your parents' classes were afraid to go to school. This is not news. This is fluff. I agree with Paul, let a few of them get their asses kicked, and they stop being bullies.

Human nature dictates that we as humans strive to get away with exactly what we CAN get away with. Or at least what we think we can get away with. Witness the prison system bursting with people who thought they could get away with it. It is also human nature to prey upon the weaker ones among us. That's what they mean when they interview CEOs on CNN and they talk about persistence and opportunism and being advantageous in the business world....they got there by squashing their weaker rivals.

I realize the point of the article. It's just not news. It's fluff to fill a column and take up the allotted 2:16 on the evening newscast. Every parent in America knows kids get bullied at school. Most even know whether their kid is the victim or the bully. Most kids are both at one time or another.
 
Originally posted by paul
It's because we sissify our children, expecially the boys.

Teach the kid to throw a few punches, go to school and kick the bully's ass, end of "emotional problems".
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Paul,
The only problem with that, and I don't disagree with you, is that BOTH kids get into trouble no matter WHO started it. My son was getting bullied in school by some punk kid and when he had had enough, he pushed the kid out of his face causing him to fall backwards and hit his head. Nothing major, just a bump on the head, but MY son is the one who got into trouble because he refused to take it anymore. Needless to say I was NOT happy about that situation, as he spend 3 days in in-school suspension. The other kid, well, he went to class a normal and NOTHING happened to him. Fair?..... I'd say not. They even issue the kids and parents citations from the police department. It is a real joke.
 
bullies are everywhere. I was bullied a lot when i was younger just becuase I was a little bigger then anybody else. I was bullied probably up to my freshman year into high school but then yes I was still made fun of because I was different. It is not fun. It can bring down your self esteem. And Fighting back is never the answer....it will just make things more complicated. People will never change.... i wish they would....it hurts when they do that stuff....like me...because I have lived with it all of my life....:(


Krystle
 
When I was in elementry I had two younger guys push me down onto the ground 2 times...they did this to me...the teachers did not even notice....i went to the hospital that night and they said I had a cuncushion ........
 
Having seen this problem from the inside, I can say that it is a growing problem. When I first started teaching, teachers were allowed to handle problems like this immediately.

Now, you have to write up documentation on the incident, turn in the documentation and let the principal/asst. principal deal with a problem they never saw in the first place. Usually, by the time the office gets around to calling in the student(s), the kid(s) have forgotten all about it.

The students quickly learn that it takes a while for the paperwork to go through, and that they probably won't get into too much trouble.
 
Ya know, I was bullied around with in elementary school. You know who's fault it was? Mine! I didn't stand up to the bully like what should have happened. I would just let them push me around and make fun of me. Well, one day I decided to stand up for my self. This kid was making fun of me so I punched and kicked him, kinda too hard, but guess what...they left me alone after that.
 
Bring back corporal punishment. I know I had my rear smacked when I got out of line and I'm sure TRL dolled out her fair share of paddlings.

But no, we tell the kid to go to time out. Or send him home so he can play with his Playstation2 all day.

This is a subject that tickes me off to no end, so I won't go on a tirade about it.

But we have no one to blame but ourselves.
 
SOmetimes its not just one person though like in krystals case you have multiple people picking on one person Im sorry but you cant go around beating everyone up.
 
No, but you can go around and take care of them one by one....meaning that they all can be punished one way or the other.

Bottom line is, it comes down to the schools anymore. My wife works with our Sheriff's Department and she works in middle schools as a "mentor". She teaches classes about certains laws that juvenile should know about and sets up field trips to the courthouse and jail. One day I stopped by after I had court to say hi to her. She was dealing with a kid who basically was throwing a fit. Then he hit a teacher. Now, with both of us in uniform, the little brat should have been led away in cuffs. Since we have to have police officers and deputies in schools anyway, let them do their job...Anyway, the school officals didn't want a repoet written, much less this kid arrested. So they took him to the office, gave him some pizza, and let him watch T.V. the rest of the day.

Now, I'm not in favor of locking up kids. But something should have been done. He slapped a teacher and got away with it. What's going to stop him from hitting students? A Big Mac?

We are entirly too soft when it comes to kids. All these "child advocate" groups need to wake up and see what's going on. Sure, some kids need help, they come from bad families who continue to sit around the house, not working, enjoying their foodstamps and welfare.....Another problem that we let happen. Beacuse it might be wrong for someone to do some type on menial job to earn thier foodstamps. (Another tirade for another thread....)

We are getting too soft. We need to put down the cell phones and latte's and open our eyes.
 
Some kids you can suspend home and the parents will deal with it, others stiffer punishments need to be enforced I agree with you. Also, they need to punish the right kids. last year one of my best friends got in a aruguement with another kid, and this kid puched him in the face. Ofcourse he punched him back ( WOuldn't you? ) yet they both got punished the same amount. They said he could have told a teacher instead of fighting back. I can understand punishing a kid for hitting another kid just for calling him names. But hitting them back after they hit them first come on.
 
why would you fight or start hitting those people....like me it would have not solved anything..... yes they hurt you and everything but you don't have to resort to that kind of violence...what is it going to solve ...nothing.......it is just called respecting other people and how they are...and not be rude or anything.... i know I have delt with it all of my life....people have made fun of me and bullied me because of my weight ...and it is crap.....people need to grow up....if I got mad or hit every person that bullied me or made fun of me that would be MANY PEOPLE....It would just get me in trouble....
I am better then that ... just getting mad at people..... it is not worth it..... i have to much good things going on in my life to worry about what they have to say about me....They probably say mean things to me because they had something wrong with themselves or just to make themselves all big in bad....it is like do they have anything good going on thier life?
I do....I graduated from high school...I am in college...becoming an art teacher and getting a minor in vocal music....have great family and friends... yse there words still hurt to this day but I AM BETTER THEN THAT

Krystle
 
My folks taught me to stand up the the local bully when I entered the first grade. I remember him well. Dean Reed, already two years my senior, yet still in the first grade. When he first tried to bully me, I put up my dukes and he backed down. I felt great until that day when for some reason, Dean couldn't back down any more and he whipped my butt! Dang! From then on, even though he was still the school bully, he respected me and I him. He left me alone and my friends too. Still have a scar where he split my lip. :eek:
 
I am not weak by any means....you can ask some of my friends....some of them have seen me when I am mad....i just don't think that violence is the answer


kRYSTLE
 
There naver really has been a bully at any of the schools I have gone to. Sure kids make fun of other kids, but nobody evers gets beaten up.
 
I'm not saying going around beating people up. Everybody needs to stand up for themselves. Respect has to be earned.
 
66 if your alone and you got 4 or 5 people talking bad about you what are you going to do..
 
If you ignore the people that are bullying you they eventually loose intrest.
 
Originally posted by smack500
66 if your alone and you got 4 or 5 people talking bad about you what are you going to do..
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Get some friends. Or at least put up a good fight.

Gordon24fan: Kinda hard to ignore people who are hitting you.
 
Originally posted by smack500
66 if your alone and you got 4 or 5 people talking bad about you what are you going to do..
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Walk away. If worse comes to worse, scream like an idiot and kick the biggest guy square in the cahonas. Maybe that will make the others think that you are crazy and they will leave you alone.
 
Originally posted by fergy1370
If worse comes to worse, scream like an idiot and kick the biggest guy square in the cahonas
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Hehe...always works.:D
 
My son was being bullied about a year ago. I put him in martial arts and his attitude changed dramatically in just a few weeks. The same kid tried to bully him after a few weeks of his training and it was broken up before he could do anything to the kid. But, what really impressed me was what my son said afterward. He said he wasn't scared like before, he just immediately thought "ok, what is the best way to drop this kid?". His confidence level has skyrocketed since he started karate (although it is really a combination of karate, ju-jitsu, and tai-chi...I just call it karate to save time). He will recieve his blue belt next monday and he is so proud he could burst.
 
If you read what I typed correctly I said they were talking bad about you, not threating you or beating you up. Does this mean If I talk bad about you, your going to come to my house and fight me???
 
I've seen just as many screwed up kids from homes where their parents tell em to fight ands stand up to everything, as I have from these so called sissy boys.
 
Originally posted by smack500
If you read what I typed correctly I said they were talking bad about you, not threating you or beating you up. Does this mean If I talk bad about you, your going to come to my house and fight me???
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Of course! No not really. All I'm saying is you need to stand up for yourself. Once the bully knows that you won't do that, he will keep picking on you.
 
Bring the paddle back, did you ever see a 15 year olds face when he got the paddle in front of his or her classmates. that works!
 
The school my girls attend still us the paddle. But they also use it as a last resort. They go to a private school. They all know that if the line is crossed they have to face the punishment. I know some people have a problem with this and that's fine. But I know that I feared going to the office more than anything. When I was in school they still used this type of punishment.
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
Of course! No not really. All I'm saying is you need to stand up for yourself. Once the bully knows that you won't do that, he will keep picking on you.
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That never works if he's twice your size and kicks the crap out of ya!! I've seen kids get beat on day after day. You'd think their parents would try something after this happening constantly. But nope, he has to learn to stand up for himself. Poor kid. Wish I was under 18, I'd take care of it for him :)
 
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