Jimmie Johnson knew Brad Keselowski wouldn’t wreck him at Texas.

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Some interesting comments here.

Brad Keselowski raced Jimmie Johnson as hard as he could without wrecking them both during a late battle for the lead Sunday at Texas Motor Speedway.

Though they slammed doors on a late restart, Johnson emerged victorious while Keselowski finished second.

Keselowski had run-ins with other drivers when he first broke into the Sprint Cup Series, but Johnson didn’t think Keselowski would just wreck him.

With the win, Johnson extended his points lead over Keselowski to seven points with two races remaining.

“I’ve always raced him with a clear mind and not worrying,” Johnson said Friday at Phoenix International Raceway. “Racing stuff happens and you make mistakes, everybody does, I make plenty myself.

“It never crossed my mind that he would make an intentional move to dump me.”
Johnson said that Keselowski has become a less reckless driver in the past two years.
“There is only a few people out there wired like (to dump people),” Johnson said. “In today’s world, there’s probably less—like it or not, it’s just the way it is.

“People race really, really hard, and I think Brad did. But just to go in the corner and dump someone, that’s tough to do. Then you play into the karma thing and there’s always next week.”

Johnson and Keselowski have a mutual respect for each other. Keselowski went to victory lane to congratulate Johnson after the race. He says he is still thankful to Johnson for helping him and checking on him last year after an accident in testing at Road Atlanta in which Keselowski broke his left ankle.

“Essentially, he cared when he didn’t have to,” Keselowski said. “I thought that was very nice of him.”
Keselowski didn’t want to elaborate because of the personal nature of the accident.
“Chad and I … ran down there (in a car)—we were one of the first people on the scene, helping him get out of the car, helping him find his bearings,” Johnson said.

“I checked up with him when he was at the hospital. It was a heck of a crash. I was just concerned for him. Maybe that was something he had experienced with other racers.”

While Keselowski was the only driver to go to victory lane last week at Texas, other drivers acknowledged Johnson’s second straight win.

Clint Bowyer did by saying some things to Johnson on Friday morning.
“He said a lot of things that I can’t say on TV,” Johnson said. “Something about the rear end of anybody and I’m that part for winning last weekend—not the cheeks, the other part, in his words.

“Highly entertaining when it comes to Bowyer, as you all know.”
 
Bad Brad and JJ are two classy acts. My only hope at this point is for JJ to end up on a hook. :D
 
Bad Brad and JJ are two classy acts. My only hope at this point is for JJ to end up on a hook. :D

I hope Brad wins with max points, and JJ finishes 5th. Then he'll be 2 back going into Homestead, a place he really hasn't "Raced" at much in his career. He's usually in protect mode by then, and he's never won there.
 
Some interesting comments here.

Brad Keselowski raced Jimmie Johnson as hard as he could without wrecking them both during a late battle for the lead Sunday at Texas Motor Speedway.

Though they slammed doors on a late restart, Johnson emerged victorious while Keselowski finished second.

Keselowski had run-ins with other drivers when he first broke into the Sprint Cup Series, but Johnson didn’t think Keselowski would just wreck him.

With the win, Johnson extended his points lead over Keselowski to seven points with two races remaining.

“I’ve always raced him with a clear mind and not worrying,” Johnson said Friday at Phoenix International Raceway. “Racing stuff happens and you make mistakes, everybody does, I make plenty myself.

“It never crossed my mind that he would make an intentional move to dump me.”
Johnson said that Keselowski has become a less reckless driver in the past two years.
“There is only a few people out there wired like (to dump people),” Johnson said. “In today’s world, there’s probably less—like it or not, it’s just the way it is.

“People race really, really hard, and I think Brad did. But just to go in the corner and dump someone, that’s tough to do. Then you play into the karma thing and there’s always next week.”

Johnson and Keselowski have a mutual respect for each other. Keselowski went to victory lane to congratulate Johnson after the race. He says he is still thankful to Johnson for helping him and checking on him last year after an accident in testing at Road Atlanta in which Keselowski broke his left ankle.

“Essentially, he cared when he didn’t have to,” Keselowski said. “I thought that was very nice of him.”
Keselowski didn’t want to elaborate because of the personal nature of the accident.
“Chad and I … ran down there (in a car)—we were one of the first people on the scene, helping him get out of the car, helping him find his bearings,” Johnson said.

“I checked up with him when he was at the hospital. It was a heck of a crash. I was just concerned for him. Maybe that was something he had experienced with other racers.”

While Keselowski was the only driver to go to victory lane last week at Texas, other drivers acknowledged Johnson’s second straight win.

Clint Bowyer did by saying some things to Johnson on Friday morning.
“He said a lot of things that I can’t say on TV,” Johnson said. “Something about the rear end of anybody and I’m that part for winning last weekend—not the cheeks, the other part, in his words.

“Highly entertaining when it comes to Bowyer, as you all know.”
Damn, thats not a post, thats a freakin book. :cool:
 
I am not buying it, that’s just Jimmie nice talk. I like Brad but he was reckless Sunday at Texas on the next to last restart. It was a good show but he made some desperate moves. That doesn’t bother me but I am not interested in a revision or alternate reality. It would be senseless for Johnson to promote a feud especially after winning max points in the last two events, as the leader bumping and banging it out opens up to many alternate possibilities. He just wants to race, outside of Brad winning the next two he can give up a few spots per race.

Let’s review what happened Sunday at Texas



The move by Brad at 0:38 in the dog leg was brilliant. Just good gutsy racing but Brad does run him up the track afterwards. Brad knows he has to clear Johnson and that he can’t survive running side by side any longer on the older lefts, or he just simply doesn’t have the grip to hold his line at speed either way he is forcing Johnson behind him. He got away with it and good for him, but there should be no tears if Johnson pulls a similar stunt in the next two races, because you race people the way they race you.

Folks like to deny Brads methods against a less popular guy like Johnson, and that is an easy game when compared prior successful battles against Edwards methods. But there was little talk about Brad’s contribution to that as well; folks like to minimize the point. As insane as Edwards was with his overkilling retaliation Brad did contribute, and he deserved the pay back, it is just too bad that Carl wiped out a ton of cars in the process.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=OCMP0GAA4E8

Again Edwards deserved his critics, but that doesn’t excuse the way Brad ran him up the track in turns one and two prior. Furthermore it is dishonest to tell just part of that story. I read Carl the wannabe man slaughtering driver comments a lot, but Brad drove like an idiot and did try and steal one from Carl and he had it coming.

Yes Fender this is some old history, but as much Brads mistakes have been omitted or looked over it is time to put things in a proper context. If folks want to root for Brad more power them, a new champion, and a Dodge title are positive things. Brad is a good driver a great driveralmost a total package, but he is human like everyone else Jimmie included. Jimmie just has enough sense to stay focused on the big picture, so he denies the obvious anger.
Last of all I am not trying to be an antagonist, but If you care to discuss I will pobably hold off on this until tommorow, I have to work 12 hours tommorow and anything else tonight from me will be less serious.
 
I think you have the wrong video. It was the second restart where Brad and JJ got together in the Dog leg. What I saw was Brad running JJ high on the prior restart. On the next, JJ tried to run him low and door slammed him off the turn (JJ does the same left jab to Kyle after Brad finished the pass), then JJ ran Brad toward the grass at the leg and they came together. They were both fighting for racing room and nobody wrecked.

Don't even get me started of Carl. In that same race, Carl rammed the back of the 22 earlier in the race, so Carl had some contact coming. He couldn't handle it and flipped out again.
 
^ Fender neither could handle it, and Brad has learned not to play with Carl. There isn't a good guy in that case , the only consolation was that Brad was a less of a Jerk (in the language of Brad less of an Ass) or inflicted the least damage. But he still ran Carl up the track and would have cheated his way to the checkerd, regardless of Carl's reputation, and he was foolish to believe it would go unchecked.

In forum judicial terms: An accessory to Carl's manslaughter attempt.
 
Of course Johnson is selling that story. It's completely pre-emptive and if he was 10 points back, he'd be singing a different tune. He'd be complaining about the way Keselowski raced him and setting up an excuse to do the same.

What remains to be seen is if Keselowski will fall for the nice guy, buddy buddy routine or do what HE has to do to win the cup.

I'm betting that there's going to be some upset drivers with some very upset fans after this race.
 
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^ Fender neither could handle it, and Brad has learned not to play with Carl. There isn't a good guy in that case , the only consolation was that Brad was a less of a Jerk (in the language of Brad less of an Ass) or inflicted the least damage. But he still ran Carl up the track and would have cheated his way to the checkerd, regardless of Carl's reputation, and he was foolish to believe it would go unchecked.

In forum judicial terms: An accessory to Carl's manslaughter attempt.

I can't edit this but I meant for the opening to read as 'Fender neither could Brad handle it''....

I enjoy discussing racing and cutting up with FenderBumpers sense of humor, we can agree to disagree on Bad Brad or Good Brad with respect. I hope my typo wasn't interpreted as an attack. Fender is one my favorites here.
Peace out and the good yada yada yaddies...

And I do like Brad in spite of my prior comments, I am planning on picking him as the winner for Dpkimmel's contest tomorrow
 
I can't edit this but I meant for the opening to read as 'Fender neither could Brad handle it''....

I enjoy discussing racing and cutting up with FenderBumpers sense of humor, we can agree to disagree on Bad Brad or Good Brad with respect. I hope my typo wasn't interpreted as an attack. Fender is one my favorites here.
Peace out and the good yada yada yaddies...

And I do like Brad in spite of my prior comments, I am planning on picking him as the winner for Dpkimmel's contest tomorrow

No problem here. If everyone saw all things nascar my way, there would be little point in posting here. I argue these things from a racing standpoint, not a campaign to get everyone to love my driver too. The day Brad gets on here and defends me against that meanie SST55, I'll become his personal defender.

The comment that I found interesting was "It never crossed my mind that he would make an intentional move to dump me. There is only a few people out there wired like (to dump people).”

Brad sure had some payback coming from both Denny and Carl. Denny did it right, Carl wrecked for blood. Getting a guy sideways and putting the hammer down and driving right thru him is insane. Brad's retaliation was to race Carl real hard from there on out, including Regans Darlington win and during the chase. I'm sure Brad got great satisfaction knowing those 3 bonus points kept Carl from being champion.

Even though Carl said many times he did "exactly the right thing" in both cases, it was the beginning of Brad being accepted in the garage. His refusal to go the same route with both Carl and Kyle earned him some respect. I think Carl may finally 'get it', because he has been making a point of getting out of Brad's way during the chase.

I don't think there is a better 'pure racer' attitude in the garage than Brad, but I am biased. When someone races him hard, he gives them a friendly wave when he finally makes the pass. It just doesn't piss him off like it does the guys who drive around with their resume in the car.

It's pissed me off for years how JJ can have a bad pit stop, then get waved by from 14th to 4th and then race for the win on fresh tires. It pisses me off how JJ gets away with that hard left 'juke' he says is to break the draft, but is really about slowing the guy down while he avoids getting his fender torn up. Most guys would get turned for that move. The first contact between Brad and JJ at Texas was from that very JJ left turn, and Brad refused to move. That door slam got JJ a nudge when he tried to run Brad into the grass coming to the leg.

Brad has JJ totally out of his usual element, and I have a feeling we will get to see just how hard JJ and Brad can race without wrecking each other. This could be a championship where one guy knocks the other out of the way to win it. I just hope neither cries about it afterward, and the big boys like Gordon, Stewart, Harvick, Kyle etc all decide the phuckin sheety 'respect' thing needs to go and speed trumps position in stock car racing.

OK, I'm done....for now. :)
 
"not campaign to get everyone to love my driver too"

As I imagine you well know, a campaign to get everyone to love a driver often has the opposite results.
 
"not campaign to get everyone to love my driver too"

As I imagine you well know, a campaign to get everyone to love a driver often has the opposite results.

I put all that effort into writing that, and that is what you come up with? :mad:

I enjoy the banter with someone who dislikes Brad. Rivalry is a big part of fan competition. Tweeking rabid fans of driver X is huge fun.
 
I put all that effort into writing that, and that is what you come up with? :mad:

I enjoy the banter with someone who dislikes Brad. Rivalry is a big part of fan competition. Tweeking rabid fans of driver X is huge fun.

Well, there ya' go ;)

Anyway, got a monkey suit on and I'm off to a wedding. Think I'll stop at a liquor store on the way :D
 
Brad has JJ totally out of his usual element, and I have a feeling we will get to see just how hard JJ and Brad can race without wrecking each other. This could be a championship where one guy knocks the other out of the way to win it. I just hope neither cries about it afterward, and the big boys like Gordon, Stewart, Harvick, Kyle etc all decide the phuckin sheety 'respect' thing needs to go and speed trumps position in stock car racing.

OK, I'm done....for now. :)

This is exactly what Im looking forward to.
 
No problem here. If everyone saw all things nascar my way, there would be little point in posting here. I argue these things from a racing standpoint, not a campaign to get everyone to love my driver too. The day Brad gets on here and defends me against that meanie SST55, I'll become his personal defender.

The comment that I found interesting was "It never crossed my mind that he would make an intentional move to dump me. There is only a few people out there wired like (to dump people).”

Brad sure had some payback coming from both Denny and Carl. Denny did it right, Carl wrecked for blood. Getting a guy sideways and putting the hammer down and driving right thru him is insane. Brad's retaliation was to race Carl real hard from there on out, including Regans Darlington win and during the chase. I'm sure Brad got great satisfaction knowing those 3 bonus points kept Carl from being champion.

Even though Carl said many times he did "exactly the right thing" in both cases, it was the beginning of Brad being accepted in the garage. His refusal to go the same route with both Carl and Kyle earned him some respect. I think Carl may finally 'get it', because he has been making a point of getting out of Brad's way during the chase.

I don't think there is a better 'pure racer' attitude in the garage than Brad, but I am biased. When someone races him hard, he gives them a friendly wave when he finally makes the pass. It just doesn't piss him off like it does the guys who drive around with their resume in the car.

It's pissed me off for years how JJ can have a bad pit stop, then get waved by from 14th to 4th and then race for the win on fresh tires. It pisses me off how JJ gets away with that hard left 'juke' he says is to break the draft, but is really about slowing the guy down while he avoids getting his fender torn up. Most guys would get turned for that move. The first contact between Brad and JJ at Texas was from that very JJ left turn, and Brad refused to move. That door slam got JJ a nudge when he tried to run Brad into the grass coming to the leg.

Brad has JJ totally out of his usual element, and I have a feeling we will get to see just how hard JJ and Brad can race without wrecking each other. This could be a championship where one guy knocks the other out of the way to win it. I just hope neither cries about it afterward, and the big boys like Gordon, Stewart, Harvick, Kyle etc all decide the phuckin sheety 'respect' thing needs to go and speed trumps position in stock car racing.

OK, I'm done....for now. :)
Damn I thought it was just hard racin, didnt know I was supposed to have a degree in psychology to watch a race. :cool:
 
You're gonna' marry a Monkey????

Have fun.

Yes, I married a monkey. What's your God*amn excuse ;)

Nothing like a wedding with free booze all night when I'm not the when being sentenced. Although, this morning makes me wonder of someone hit me multiple times with a hammer so it's give and take, I suppose.
 
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