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rajflyboy
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This post was deleted by me..nascarwoman
It consisted of driver bashing.
It consisted of driver bashing.
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bowtie
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Tommy29
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YES! This rules if Johnny gets to drive the 30 car.
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coonhound
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Glad to see Sauter staying with Childress and moving on to Winston Cup. He must have proved to Childress that he could come back from the head injuries he recieved in Busch a while back.
The Buzz: Brewco denies Sauter leaving
November 24, 2003
2:41 PM EST (1941 GMT)
Brewco Motorsports president and general manager Todd Wilkerson categorically denied rumors Monday that his team had made a deal with Richard Childress Racing to allow Johnny Sauter to drive RCR's No. 30 Chevrolet in 2004.
Sauter has signed to drive Brewco's No. 27 Chevrolet next season as a teammate to David Green.
"We have had no contact whatsoever with Richard Childress Racing regarding Johnny," Wilkerson said. "There's no deal I know of for next year that's been made for Johnny to drive for them, which would be impossible anyway since Johnny is under contract with us.
"I think seeing Johnny and Richard Childress together at the (Busch Series) banquet last weekend probably fueled some rumors about their future, but Johnny hasn't gotten an offer that we're aware of."
Sauter, 25, made 72 starts in the Busch Series over the last three seasons -- 55 of them for Childress.
But after contributing to RCR's 2003 Busch Series owners' title -- he split the season in Childress' No. 21 Chevrolet with Kevin Harvick -- Sauter made an agreement for 2004 to drive for owner Clarence Brewer.
A source close to RCR said Monday that Childress had not yet decided on a driver for the No. 30 car and that the announcement of a driver/crew chief combination, necessitated by the departure of crew chief Mike Beam to PPI Motorsports, would be made at the same time.
Word is the crew chief will be promoted from within RCR's operation, which includes three Nextel Cup and two Busch Series teams.
November 24, 2003
2:41 PM EST (1941 GMT)
Brewco Motorsports president and general manager Todd Wilkerson categorically denied rumors Monday that his team had made a deal with Richard Childress Racing to allow Johnny Sauter to drive RCR's No. 30 Chevrolet in 2004.
Sauter has signed to drive Brewco's No. 27 Chevrolet next season as a teammate to David Green.
"We have had no contact whatsoever with Richard Childress Racing regarding Johnny," Wilkerson said. "There's no deal I know of for next year that's been made for Johnny to drive for them, which would be impossible anyway since Johnny is under contract with us.
"I think seeing Johnny and Richard Childress together at the (Busch Series) banquet last weekend probably fueled some rumors about their future, but Johnny hasn't gotten an offer that we're aware of."
Sauter, 25, made 72 starts in the Busch Series over the last three seasons -- 55 of them for Childress.
But after contributing to RCR's 2003 Busch Series owners' title -- he split the season in Childress' No. 21 Chevrolet with Kevin Harvick -- Sauter made an agreement for 2004 to drive for owner Clarence Brewer.
A source close to RCR said Monday that Childress had not yet decided on a driver for the No. 30 car and that the announcement of a driver/crew chief combination, necessitated by the departure of crew chief Mike Beam to PPI Motorsports, would be made at the same time.
Word is the crew chief will be promoted from within RCR's operation, which includes three Nextel Cup and two Busch Series teams.
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N2racin44
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Boy Richard is going to have his hands full.
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rajflyboy
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Guess Childress will get another rough driver >>> I guess Richard doesn't know any other kind of driver!! I wouldnt put Sauter in a GO Cart after that crap at Richmond this year!!
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fergy1370
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What part of
don't you understand? He hasn't been signed yet.
Find something else to troll about.
Did you forget your meds today Flyboy?
OK rajflyboy, that's enough. Your attempt at trolling is tiresome.
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Gollum
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Oh he's just being Flyboy that's all.
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rajflyboy
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Trollling??? By stating the honest Truth???? Come on now!! Sauter took out Kenseth for the win Intentionally on National TV! Period End of Story!! And its unacceptable in my book!!
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Here kitty, kitty, kitty
Flyboy, anything connected to RCR or DEI is unacceptable in your mind. Right? Now you don't want to tempt the mods here do you? I'd like to be able to converse with you, but it's up to you.
Now you don't want to tempt the mods here do you? I'd like to be able to converse with you, but it's up to you.
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wlfyk62
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This has been Denied....
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rajflyboy
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Buckaroo >>> No disrespect but Sauter did what he did! He can't take it back!!
So I think I can rib on him a little !!!!
So I think I can rib on him a little !!!!
You call that a ribbing?
When you bash drivers and posters, that is being a TROLL!
You make it almost imposible to discuss anything on a mature basis.
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Happy29
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For the sake of stability I will not say anything that completely voids this thread of it's purpose to exist.
Another update from Jayski.com, Stay your swords Silly Seasoners.
Another update from Jayski.com, Stay your swords Silly Seasoners.
fergy1370
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But its consistant with you.....it gets old.
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EatMorePossum
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Starting to sound like nobody wants the 30. Understandable.
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rajflyboy
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I've pretty much decided just to post in the Other Racing Forums >>> Mainly the Motorcycle Racing Forum with Nate Dogg!! He is a cool Motorcycle goo roo!
This Nascar Forum has too many folks that get excited too easily!!!! And not enough people making posts here anymore!!! I will leave you folks in peace and only post in Motorcycle Forum!!! Thanks and Goodnight!!!
This Nascar Forum has too many folks that get excited too easily!!!! And not enough people making posts here anymore!!! I will leave you folks in peace and only post in Motorcycle Forum!!! Thanks and Goodnight!!!
When you wish a driver to be put into the wall by another driver as a retaliation, then this/that is usually the response that you get, raj. You shouldn' make it seem like you are trying to goad someone into an argument and things wouldn't turn out like this. But, whatever floats your boat.
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slick-nick
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I dont know about you, but I'd have Johnny drive my car if I was an owner. The kid knows how to race, knows how to win... doesn't matter how. Kenseth roughed him up, so Johnny got him back. Kenseth just likes to think he's the only one on the track at times..
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EatMorePossum
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Originally posted by slick-nick@Nov 25 2003, 11:56 AM
Kenseth just likes to think he's the only one on the track at times..
Apparently you wouldn't know a clean driver if you saw him.
Can anyone here name a driver who conducted himself more professionally, or in a more mature, clean, admirable manner this year, than Matt Kenseth did? If so, I'd love to know who it could have been.
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slick-nick
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"What's he doing racing us?"
I remember those words coming out of Kenseth's mouth during the Busch race at Richmond. When Harvick made it 3 wide, Kenseth didn't like it. Why? I have no idea.
Last time I checked, going 3 wide is a part of racing, is it not?
I remember those words coming out of Kenseth's mouth during the Busch race at Richmond. When Harvick made it 3 wide, Kenseth didn't like it. Why? I have no idea.
Last time I checked, going 3 wide is a part of racing, is it not?
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EatMorePossum
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That depends on the track and the circumstance. Lap 5 at Miami in the first race after reconfiguration is a bit ridiculous to be 3 wide. At least for most thinking people it is.
3 wide at Richmond seems pretty stupid as well. Just not enough room.
Maybe that's the main reason Matt Kenseth has a Winston Cup title and some others don't.
3 wide at Richmond seems pretty stupid as well. Just not enough room.
Maybe that's the main reason Matt Kenseth has a Winston Cup title and some others don't.
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slick-nick
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Well, if 3 wide isn't racing... maybe some should stick to CART. If follow the leader racing is what you want, there's the place to find it.
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EatMorePossum
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*sigh*
There is a time and a place for everything, young grasshopper. Say what you like, it doesn't matter. Going three wide on the fifth lap at a brand new track is nothing but dumb and I don't care who did it. Some drivers do things like that. Curiously, they don't usually win championships. Some drivers are smart and know that while you can't win anything by making moves like that on lap 5 you can sure as heck lose a lot by doing it. Matt Kenseth is one of the latter, and has a championship to prove it. Now if knowing the difference equates in your eyes as a lesser person, then so be it. If knowing the difference means I don't qualify as enough of a fan in your eyes, then my heart is broken all to pieces. Honestly it is. I may never fully recover.
But then again, I didn't finish behind Kenseth either. Maybe he knew what he was doing all along. The points would seem to indicate that he did. Five years from now, no one will remember who pulled the bravest stunt in 2003, but they'll all know who got the most points. Given my choice, I'll take door number two. Your opinion may and probably will vary.
There is a time and a place for everything, young grasshopper. Say what you like, it doesn't matter. Going three wide on the fifth lap at a brand new track is nothing but dumb and I don't care who did it. Some drivers do things like that. Curiously, they don't usually win championships. Some drivers are smart and know that while you can't win anything by making moves like that on lap 5 you can sure as heck lose a lot by doing it. Matt Kenseth is one of the latter, and has a championship to prove it. Now if knowing the difference equates in your eyes as a lesser person, then so be it. If knowing the difference means I don't qualify as enough of a fan in your eyes, then my heart is broken all to pieces. Honestly it is. I may never fully recover.
But then again, I didn't finish behind Kenseth either. Maybe he knew what he was doing all along. The points would seem to indicate that he did. Five years from now, no one will remember who pulled the bravest stunt in 2003, but they'll all know who got the most points. Given my choice, I'll take door number two. Your opinion may and probably will vary.
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slick-nick
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Straight and simple, 3 wide racing is a part of NASCAR, YOUNG GRASSHOPPER.
Like it, love it, or hate it.. there isn't anything you can do about it. Yes, Kenseth may have won the Championship, but 3 months from now is the start of a new season.
Like it, love it, or hate it.. there isn't anything you can do about it. Yes, Kenseth may have won the Championship, but 3 months from now is the start of a new season.
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EatMorePossum
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I think there is no question as to whether he may or may not have won the championship. That's pretty much been settled. He did. By finishing races and staying out of trouble.
As to stay in line racing, I agree with you. There is a place for it. It's called Talladega and Daytona.
As to three wide racing being an accepted part of NASCAR racing, I also agree with you. To a point. Anyone with enough sense to come in out of the rain can clearly tell the difference between a time to race and a time to wait 3 laps. If that speaks to the people you choose to idolize, that's their problem. They'll always finish behind the Kenseths of the sport. I have absolutely no problem with 3 wide, 4 wide, heck half a dozen wide at Pocono on the front stretch. But there are places where even 2 wide don't work. Turns one and two at Darlington come to mind. The intelligent racer knows and accepts this. The idiots don't. Choose wisely.
Now, to the original topic of this thread...it appears that Senor Sauter's day will have to wait a while. That's OK by me. He needs a little more seasoning before he's ready to play with the bigger kids anyway.
As to stay in line racing, I agree with you. There is a place for it. It's called Talladega and Daytona.
As to three wide racing being an accepted part of NASCAR racing, I also agree with you. To a point. Anyone with enough sense to come in out of the rain can clearly tell the difference between a time to race and a time to wait 3 laps. If that speaks to the people you choose to idolize, that's their problem. They'll always finish behind the Kenseths of the sport. I have absolutely no problem with 3 wide, 4 wide, heck half a dozen wide at Pocono on the front stretch. But there are places where even 2 wide don't work. Turns one and two at Darlington come to mind. The intelligent racer knows and accepts this. The idiots don't. Choose wisely.
Now, to the original topic of this thread...it appears that Senor Sauter's day will have to wait a while. That's OK by me. He needs a little more seasoning before he's ready to play with the bigger kids anyway.
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Gollum
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Looks like to me they were running 2 and 3 wide all day at Homestead. Front strech, Back strech and turns. Good hard racing is what people want to see. Rather it is the 5th lap or 300th lap. Cars do get loose. sometimes on the first lap. But that is racing.
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rajflyboy
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Pretty obvious that Kenseth can drive a whole lot better than Happy Harvo >>> and thats why Matt is the champion!!!!!
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Gollum
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5th is points is not bad. Done a lot better than about 60 others. Next year is a new year.
Matt is the champion because of consistency. That doesn't necessarily mean he can drive better than Harvick. That may be your opinion, but please quit trying to create a fued.
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Gollum
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Maj that is the only thing that Flyboy knows to do. He don't know how to post any other way. :lol:
I know, but I just keep trying to think that if I continue to point him in the right direction, maybe, just maybe he might someday comprehend it. I'm all for everyone being able to voice their opinions, just not in a way that brings on an argument. I know, I know......I'm hoping way too much!
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rajflyboy
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There is no argument about it!! Matt is the Champion!! End of story!!
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Gollum
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We didn't know that there was a debate on Matt being the Champion or not.There was a bus load before Matt and there will be a bus load after Matt. :lol: End of story. Don't think so. It just starts a new chapter in Feb.
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rajflyboy
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Sounds like some whining because your driver couldnt win it?????? 