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No respect for Keselowski's accomplishment, that's for sure.

Less than one week after #2-Brad Keselowski clinched the 2012 NASCAR Sprint Cup Championship, Wynn Las Vegas sports book director John Avello posted the first odds on the 2013 championship and made #48-Jimmie Johnson the 7-to-2 favorite. Keselowski may be the defending champion, but he's the listed as only the seventh-favored driver to repeat in 2013 at 11-to-1. Avello cited Penske's transition from Dodges to Fords, as well as NASCAR's new-look car that debuts next season, as the reasons for Keselowski's high odds.

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If anything ,on this forum ,we tend to overrate new drivers like Ricky Stenhouse and underrate veterans like Kurt Busch.I think we would give Brad a higher rating than Jimmy , but I sure can see why Las Vegas would have Jimmy ahead.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
No respect for Keselowski's accomplishment, that's for sure.

Less than one week after #2-Brad Keselowski clinched the 2012 NASCAR Sprint Cup Championship, Wynn Las Vegas sports book director John Avello posted the first odds on the 2013 championship and made #48-Jimmie Johnson the 7-to-2 favorite. Keselowski may be the defending champion, but he's the listed as only the seventh-favored driver to repeat in 2013 at 11-to-1. Avello cited Penske's transition from Dodges to Fords, as well as NASCAR's new-look car that debuts next season, as the reasons for Keselowski's high odds.

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I think WLV has been wrong with their predictions and picks the last two years. Seriously, I wish I would have put a grand on Kez one year ago. :cheers:
 
If I remember, did't they do this last year as well, with pretty much that same prediction?
 
It's Vegas. With JJ's history, most of the money is bet on him and they need to draw some bets to other drivers. But the Penske switch to Ford, and HMS' history with switching to a new car, make it hard to argue with the odds given the 48 team. I am surprised by Brad's 11-1, but I bet that ends up 3 or 4 to 1 fast enough.
 
FenderBumper said:
It's Vegas. With JJ's history, most of the money is bet on him and they need to draw some bets to other drivers.
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That's it. Vegas odds aren't about predicting winners or showing respect; they're about spreading bets across the field to make a profit regardless of who wins. Johnson is low to discourage people from betting on someone who offers a minimal return. Nemechek and other back markers are high to encourage suckers to chase the long shot payout, enough of them to cover the minimal payouts on Johnson.
 
I don't think it's disrespectful to Brad. I mean how can you ever really argue against Jimmie? He has won 5 of the last 7 championships and was the runner up this year.
 
StewartHaas-Gibbs Racing said:
I don't think it's disrespectful to Brad. I mean how can you ever really argue against Jimmie? He has won 5 of the last 7 championships and was the runner up this year.
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Yeah, past performance is the best indicator of future performance.

The only rift, their lead engineer left. Makes you wonder how good they will be in the future.

But for sense sakes, likes check how JJ has done every year since he began in the cup series.

5, 2, 2, 5, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 6, 2

Average 2.45. Oh, and he makes the chase every year. Another category he dominates all by himself.

When Vegas sees this, they cannot help themselves.
 
I'm not much of a better . I will keep betting on the past winners till I run out of money . Last year , I would of bet it all on Kyle and Carl to be there at the end and not Clint and Brad . Would've lost my shirt . But I would probably do it again this year. How stupid can you get?
 
MOEJOE said:
Yeah, past performance is the best indicator of future performance.

The only rift, their lead engineer left. Makes you wonder how good they will be in the future.

But for sense sakes, likes check how JJ has done every year since he began in the cup series.

5, 2, 2, 5, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 6, 2

Average 2.45. Oh, and he makes the chase every year. Another category he dominates all by himself.

When Vegas sees this, they cannot help themselves.
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Jimmy Johnson was third this year! He has had a amazing career in the cup and I don't think the fans recognize it !
 
Smoke14 said:
Laps led? JJ led the money lap five times as did Hamlin and Kez.

BK played the game just right though.
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What's lost in all the talk about the dropped lugnut is that the driver who made the lesser mistakes won. Brad finished 15th, and that means JJ couldn't win the cup. His mistakes at Kansas and Phoenix were the difference because Brads gas miscalculation at Charolette and pit error earlier in the chase didn't hurt him as much.

I expect the #2 to be even stronger in the chase next year, but I'm not so sure about the 48.

If Clint had some better luck, he would have been right there. He went from a probable 7th place finish at Talladega to 23rd. Phoenix was a 6th to 28th. That's about 38 points......
 
Brad and Penske announced they wasn't running for the 2013 title when they switched to Ford. The statement would have been slightly more profound by going to a Matador or Pacer there just wasn't none avaliable, and no templates to run a Jeep.
 
MOEJOE said:
Yeah, past performance is the best indicator of future performance.
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True enough, but that's only when you're talking about Jimmie. For everyone else it don't mean jack. Where were those two dominate cars from last years Chase this season? Carl 'Who' Edwards, I'm having a hard time remembering what that guy even looks like but I can remember seeing him race before in seasons long ago. How about last year's 'five time', Tony Stewart? He wins half the Chase races in 2011 and this year what, ZERO.
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
True enough, but that's only when you're talking about Jimmie. For everyone else it don't mean jack. Where were those two dominate cars from last years Chase this season? Carl 'Who' Edwards, I'm having a hard time remembering what that guy even looks like but I can remember seeing him race before in seasons long ago. How about last year's 'five time', Tony Stewart? He wins half the Chase races in 2011 and this year what, ZERO.
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Hows that? Matt Kenseth is consistent. And Carl is, well, consistently bad then good.

Same with Tony. He's either on fire, or he's not in contention.

Jimmie just has more fire than the rest. Until Brad got here. I have a feeling these next couple years could be what NASCAR missed when Davey Allision died. Oh what could have been. (to me this was Dale E's finest competition. I know, he raced other greats, but not in their prime like Davey was. Great crew cheif, good owners, amazing talent.)

Let's just hope NASCAR scratches DEGA from the chase and we can have a real CHASE.

One has to wonder, what would have been if Tony hadn't done what he done at Dega?
 
dpkimmel2001 said:
How about last year's 'five time', Tony Stewart? He wins half the Chase races in 2011 and this year what, ZERO.
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I don't know if you heard ;) , he fired that guy that gave him cars and killer calls to help him win those races.

OR, somebody else at SHR did, that pooooor sucker....
 
MOEJOE said:
I don't know if you heard ;) , he fired that guy that gave him cars and killer calls to help him win those races.
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Now why hasn't someone mentioned that little beauty over at the Bonehead of the Year thread, along with the little item that the 'fired guy' (Grubb) took Hamlin to within three races of the title and finished ahead of his former boss? Or do we consider that one of last year's mistakes?
 
Charlie Spencer said:
Now why hasn't someone mentioned that little beauty over at the Bonehead of the Year thread, along with the little item that the 'fired guy' (Grubb) took Hamlin to within three races of the title and finished ahead of his former boss? Or do we consider that one of last year's mistakes?
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That was last year. The decision to hire addington has not born any fruit however. SO, I will go over to that thread then.
 
I'm interested to see if the move to Ford has any effect on his performance in 2013. Probably will not, but you never know. "Kinks" ...

As far as that Vegas crap goes - nobody I know actually follows that BS anyway. You can't predict that type of stuff 12 months in advance. Most SANE people know this.
 
Allen Bedgood said:
As far as that Vegas crap goes - nobody I know actually follows that BS anyway. You can't predict that type of stuff 12 months in advance. Most SANE people know this.
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Ah, but Vegas isn't interested in sane people. Sane people eat at the cheap magnificent buffets, watch the cheap lounge acts and free streetside shows, and let the 'not sane' twits gladly volunteer to foot the bill.
 
I don't really see this as a disrespect to Brad by any means...I think JJ is a favorite every year going into the season, I mean as has been pointed out earlier, he has finished no worse than 6 in points since he has been in Cup racing. He will probably be the pre season favorite every year until his performance REALLY drops off.

On a side note...what the heck does Vegas know about NASCAR anyway?!? LOL
 
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