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NASCAR is expected to levy a fine as early as Tuesday, upwards of $15,000 to Nextel Cup driver Jimmie Johnson for placing a sign atop his No. 48 Chevrolet and obscuring the view of a sponsor's product during Sunday's Victory Lane ceremonies at Pocono Raceway, ThatsRacin.com has learned.
Following his win in Sunday's Pennsylvania 500 in Long Pond, Pa., Johnson exited his car and placed a Lowe's sign - Lowe's is the primary sponsor of Johnson's team - atop his car and in front of a large blue Powerade bottle.

Powerade is an official sponsor of NASCAR.

During the course of Victory Lane ceremonies, the Lowe's sign actually fell off the car, but was inexplicably picked up and replaced in its original position obscuring the Powerade bottle by NASCAR official Dave Finley, witnesses said.

Hendrick Motorsports officials were notified Monday of a likely fine, sources said. Officials with Hendrick and NASCAR were unavailable for comment late Monday.

Two weeks ago during a pre-race drivers meeting at New Hampshire, NASCAR president Mike Helton had told drivers "do not take it upon yourselves to remove products" placed on cars as they come in for victory celebrations.

Johnson did not remove or move the Powerade bottle Sunday, witnesses said.

Many of the recent issues have mostly been with a the large, blue Powerade bottle placed atop winning cars that some drivers have pushed or even knocked off their cars.

The drivers who do so have affiliations with Gatorade or with Pepsi, which owns Gatorade. Powerade is a Coca-Cola product.

"You can maneuver away from it or work around it," Helton said at New Hampshire. "If that doesn't begin happening again, we will be forced to deal with it."

The fine for Johnson, the series points leader, would be the first for such issues this season. Johnson was asked about the Victory Lane incident Sunday night during his post-race winner's interview.

Asked if he was told to touch or not touch any bottles in Victory Lane, Johnson replied, "No, I wasn't. I was a little more aware of camera angles to try to honor my sponsors and take care of them. I even took the liberty of putting a sign up in front of brand 'X'.

"It's weird that the driver - in Victory Lane - has to worry about defending and honoring your sponsor because of relationships that exist outside of your control.

"I hope we get this rectified and when you pull into Gatorade Victory Lane you're drinking Gatorade and that's all there is to it."
 
Thats ridiculous. What does Nascar want the drivers to do then, take a drink of the enemy sponsor? :rolleyes: They said the drivers could move away from the bottles so you can't see them on tv, but this also means moving away from the car that contains the rest of the high paying sponsors on them. Nascar should just take them off the car and get one of those goofy lookin people to wave it around behind the driver during his tv interview, then get rid of it. Tada. Enemy sponsor happy with tv time, driver happy cause its not on his car and it doesn't stay near him long. Too simple for Nascar though. I bet we'll be seeing another fence on top of the car soon, but this one will be electric and will zap the driver if he tries to reach through and knock it off. :lol:
 
...this is just plain stupid. He didn't knock over the or even touch the bottles ... grrrrr....ok see posts in the previous thread about how stupid this is getting...

Way to go Jimmie! Way to be creative. Obviously, people get upset when they get outsmarted...

I'll be more than glad to send you a buck or two to help with that nasty ole fine!
 
rember a few weeks ago when Kurt Busch won and said "i'd like to think (incert sponce here) GATERAID...well not GATERAID" :XXROFL: :XXROFL:

but its stupid for nascar to fine him over that, i bet ya LOWES picked up the tab for him.
 
Originally posted by turtle3539@Aug 2 2004, 10:34 PM
I bet we'll be seeing another fence on top of the car soon, but this one will be electric and will zap the driver if he tries to reach through and knock it off. :lol:
:XXROFL: :XXROFL: :cheers:
 
Originally posted by Lap3Forever@Aug 2 2004, 11:40 PM
but its stupid for nascar to fine him over that, i bet ya LOWES picked up the tab for him.
Actually I think Pepsi should float that one...being they are the one's he's trying to look out for. I'm sure Jimmie will never feel that in his wallet.

It sure gets me thinking of all the ways I would hassle them from now...like...

Just move to front of the car so the top of the car is out of view....or do a little 'dance' on the roof....I've certainly seen that in the past...
 
I think it is stupid also, but by doing the the stuff they are doing Poweraid is getting more exposure, Just leave the stupid bottle alone and walk to the back quarterpanel of the car, which has LOWES on it, and do your interview from there.
 
:angry: :angry: I am so pizzed right now, this is all I have to say about this................................. :bslfag:
 
I would hope that this report is not true. I fear that it is, tho...
 
It's confirmed...

From NASCAR.com

NASCAR Nextel Cup Series driver Jimmie Johnson was fined $10,000 for a post-race incident that occurred Sunday in Victory Lane at Pocono Raceway, NASCAR officials announced today.

Johnson was fined for not following the directive of a NASCAR official as well as actions detrimental to stock car racing. He was in violation of Sections 12-2 and 12-4-A, respectively, of the NASCAR Nextel Cup Series Rule Book.

"NASCAR President Mike Helton thoroughly explained the proper protocol for victory lane ceremonies in a drivers' meeting two weeks ago at New Hampshire," NASCAR spokesperson Jim Hunter said. "We're going to address these situations in an orderly fashion, just as we always have. We expect our drivers to follow this protocol."
 
But it doesn't sound like Jimmie (and therefor his Pepsi and Lowes sponsorships) agree with NASCAR or are wiling to lay down on the issue....(from the above article)

"With all this controversy, we're creating more exposure for this other brand," he said. "So I'm not sure what I'm going to do next."

What drives me nuts is the whole "Actions detrimental to stock car racing."

I wouldn't call Jimmie's actions detrimental in the least! He's showing that drivers actually care who their sponsors are, and the lengths they're willing to go to in order to honor that sponsorship.

This is just some pansy catch-all rule that they dish out WAY too often in my opinion. Anything that rubs them the wrong way gets smacked with 10-15g's and that title. :angry: <_<
 
But don't you guys get it? How in the name of Curtis Turner can we as fans expect NASCAR to continue providing high quality entertainment, fanciful points system revisions, all those costly videos where drivers jump up and down and grimace on cue if the bills ain't paid? I mean, c'mon folks. Bwian Fwance and the Enforcers Of The Prophecy have enough on their plates making sure Chevies win their allotted 85% of the races, how can we expect them to adequately police the bahavior of its employee...I mean drivers in victory lane on top of all that??! It just ain't fair. All that time spent on making sure the Powerade bottle was left alone could have been more productively spent dreaming up next year's points system. The Lucky Dog Rule...somebody had to spend time dreaming that one up, and we all know time is money people. It apparently takes a full staff of 20+ officials to determine when pit road is open and when it's closed for the love of Buddy Arrington. These people workin' for free??!! Somebody has to check and recheck the video monitor on every caution flag to see who Junior is ahead of...that costs money y'all.

I really think we need to lighten up a tad here. NASCAR is doing the best they can, and let's face it...the best costs more.









The preceding message was brought to you by Powerade. Don't f**k with our bottle. For real. Ten Gs if ya do.
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@Aug 3 2004, 10:29 AM

The preceding message was brought to you by Powerade. Don't f**k with our bottle. For real. Ten Gs if ya do.
:XXROFL:
 
Na$car??? Just a plain stupid call IMO, and Jinnie did NOTHING wrong by putting up that Lowes sign...then an official put it back? Way too much :bslfag: this season, your miles may vary.
 
I think Jimmie and his team should have been fined for it. Powerade puts money into this sport as much as Gartorade does. And you don't see Powerade/Coke guys tearing down the Gatorade logos. So the Gatorade/Pepsi guys shouldn't block, throw, etc the Powerade logos.
 
Jimmie Johnson broke the cardinal rule in NASCAR - Don't f*** with NASCAR. When they say jump, you ask "how high?" You don't argue or manuver around it.

And you know what, it's been that way since 1949.
 
Originally posted by Sam FT@Aug 3 2004, 01:25 PM
I think Jimmie and his team should have been fined for it.  Powerade puts money into this sport as much as Gartorade does.  And you don't see Powerade/Coke guys tearing down the Gatorade logos.  So the Gatorade/Pepsi guys shouldn't block, throw, etc the Powerade logos.
I think if Powerade/Coke wants to advertise in Victory Lane, they should put their Logo on the Victory Lane wall...NOT ON THE CARS! That would just be fair!!!!!! Why should they have the right to put something on my car; if I they arent my sponsor?

IF YOU DONT SPONSOR ME AND MY TEAM; GET THE HELL OFF OF MY CAR!!!!!
 
Note to concessions vendor:


We really ought to consider adding some decaf around here...
 
Originally posted by Bucky Badger@Aug 3 2004, 03:11 PM
Mabey Jimmy shouldn't race in the Coca Cola 600 if he feels so strong against the company. :lol:
Actually I think Pepsi should have a plethora of cars at the Coke 600, just like Coke did at the Pepsi 400. But, only two cars are needed; because PEPSI WON THEM BOTH!!!!! :lol: :dpepsi: :headbang: :nyanya:
 
Originally posted by majestyx@Aug 3 2004, 07:41 AM
:angry: :angry: I am so pizzed right now, this is all I have to say about this................................. :bslfag:
I agree!!! :bslfag:
 
Well I thought Nascar said don't knock the botle off. Well he didn't. He didn't really break no rules. Fine was stupid. :cheers:
 
Originally posted by Gollum@Aug 3 2004, 05:59 PM
Well I thought Nascar said don't knock the botle off. Well he didn't. He didn't really break no rules. Fine was stupid. :cheers:
Amen, Gollum!!!!!!!!! Indeed, that IS what NASCAR said.

Mark me pizzed tooooooooooo!!!!!

It's all a buncha
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:angry:&nbsp; :angry: I am so pizzed right now, this is all I have to say about this................................. :bslfag:
I agree!!! :bslfag: [/b][/quote]
:angry: Add one more to this very long list.

:bslfag:
 
i think the whole deal with NASCAR basically becoming a whore to sponsorship is pretty rotten...I don't know, I understand you need money to run it all, but as many have said before, if you take all the "official whatevers of nascar" and doled them out to, say, Carl Long, Tony Raines, Andy Belmont, Kirk Shelmerdine, Ashton Lewis...you might have some more interesting competition instead of stupid f'ing "sponsor wars" in victory lane.
 
For those of you who feel strongly that this was wrong I challenge you to do as I did. The powerade folks have a comment section and I made one. That is where change will come from if there is going to be a change. The fans need to band together and support the drivers. I even suggest they dress someone up in a powerade costume to walk around Victory Lane. That would garner more attention.

Speak out...
 
Johnson may not have broke any rules but - IMO - it was a childish, immature, act lacking of any degree of professionalism.
 
Some MASCAR exceutive made a good quote today in our papers. He said soemthing like if Johnson didn't like the Powerade sponser he could alway smove away from it or something like that. maybe it wasn't a nascar executive but it was someone i knew.
 
I think this is the most idiotic thing a driver has ever had to put up with!
He can't get out a celebrate his win because he has to block a damn bottle.... its plain stupid.
 
Originally posted by Patrick9999@Aug 4 2004, 08:33 AM
Johnson may not have broke any rules but - IMO - it was a childish, immature, act lacking of any degree of professionalism.
Totall agree....
 
Originally posted by indyracing@Aug 4 2004, 10:39 AM
Some MASCAR exceutive made a good quote today in our papers. He said soemthing like if Johnson didn't like the Powerade sponser he could alway smove away from it or something like that. maybe it wasn't a nascar executive but it was someone i knew.
I had even said that in this thread a few days ago.
 
the more i think about it....
poweraid is a sponsor, they pay nascar for the right to be in victory lane, nascar has sold them the right to be on top of the car in victory lane, jimmie shouldn't have knocked it bottles off or hid them behind a lowes sign. he did. jimmie and all of us should be pissed at nascar not poweraid.
but then again poweraid should be paying jimmie bet they haven't had this much airtime all year
 
This is just another example of what is wrong with NASCAR. Do they really think a driver should have to worry about avoiding a big bottle put on his car when he is in Victory Lane?

It seem so to me that Pepsi's sponsorship money is being spent to make the car fast enough to get into Victory Lane. Then Powerade reaps the reward in Victory Lane. :huh:

I'm not thinking Pepsi is at all pleased with this.

But as I have stated before, the whole Coke vs. Pepsi advertising war is just plain silly in my opinion. I don't know of anyone who would be swayed into drinking the one they don't prefer by an advertisement. I like Pepsi product (Mountain Dew mostly) and will drink a Coke if I am really thirsty and have no alternative. Coke is a little better than Pepsi in mixed drinks, but that is about it.

Add another one for me

:bslfag:
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin@Aug 4 2004, 11:52 AM
This is just another example of what is wrong with NASCAR. Do they really think a driver should have to worry about avoiding a big bottle put on his car when he is in Victory Lane?

It seem so to me that Pepsi's sponsorship money is being spent to make the car fast enough to get into Victory Lane. Then Powerade reaps the reward in Victory Lane. :huh:

I'm not thinking Pepsi is at all pleased with this.

But as I have stated before, the whole Coke vs. Pepsi advertising war is just plain silly in my opinion. I don't know of anyone who would be swayed into drinking the one they don't prefer by an advertisement. I like Pepsi product (Mountain Dew mostly) and will drink a Coke if I am really thirsty and have no alternative. Coke is a little better than Pepsi in mixed drinks, but that is about it.

Add another one for me

:bslfag:
Agreed, I think this is all a little childish. If you don't like it then don't end up in victory lane.

The whole cola wars is big business, but I don't think a little ad will sway the way most people think. I am Mountain Dew lover myself. I avoid restaurants that serve Coke. I do not like cola products and to me coke is much worse than pepsi (that is unless it is poored on top of the Captain!).
 
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