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1 +1 Jimmie Johnson 2220 Leader 15 3 10 11
2 -1 Dale Earnhardt Jr. 2213 -7 15 3 8 11
3 -- Matt Kenseth 2040 -180 15 2 6 10
4 +2 Bobby Labonte 1954 -266 15 0 5 8
5 -- Tony Stewart 1945 -275 15 0 4 7
6 -2 Jeff Gordon 1933 -287 15 2 4 10
7 +1 Elliott Sadler 1933 -287 15 1 4 6
8 -1 Kurt Busch 1933 -287 15 1 2 6
9 +1 Ryan Newman 1859 -361 15 1 5 8
10 -1 Kevin Harvick 1847 -373 15 0 3 6
11 +2 Kasey Kahne* 1821 -399 15 0 5 5
12 -1 Jeremy Mayfield 1778 -442 15 0 2 5
13 -1 Jamie McMurray 1722 -498 15 0 3 8
14 +3 Dale Jarrett 1694 -526 15 0 1 4
15 -- Rusty Wallace 1674 -546 15 1 3 6
16 -2 Mark Martin 1642 -578 15 1 2 5
17 -1 Casey Mears 1594 -626 15 0 0 6
18 +2 Sterling Marlin 1587 -633 15 0 2 4
19 +3 Brian Vickers* 1557 -663 15 0 0 2
20 -2 Robby Gordon 1554 -666 15 0 2 3
21 -2 Terry Labonte 1554 -666 15 0 0 3
22 +2 Michael Waltrip 1533 -687 15 0 1 5
23 -- Greg Biffle 1509 -711 15 0 0 1
24 +1 Jeff Burton 1499 -721 15 0 1 2
25 -4 Ward Burton 1497 -723 15 0 0 2
26 +1 Scott Wimmer* 1451 -769 15 0 1 2
27 +1 Ricky Rudd 1430 -790 15 0 0 0
28 -2 Joe Nemechek 1411 -809 15 0 0 1
29 -- Brendan Gaughan* 1368 -852 15 0 0 1
30 +1 Scott Riggs* 1304 -916 15 0 1 1
31 +2 Ricky Craven 1259 -961 15 0 0 0
32 -- Ken Schrader 1234 -986 15 0 0 1
33 -3 Johnny Sauter* 1217 -1003 13 0 0 0
34 +1 Kyle Petty 1201 -1019 15 0 0 0
35 -1 Jeff Green 1188 -1032 15 0 0 0
36 -- Derrike Cope 841 -1379 13 0 0 0
37 -- Jimmy Spencer 779 -1441 10 0 0 0
38 -- Dave Blaney 773 -1447 9 0 0 0
39 -- Kevin Lepage 540 -1680 10 0 0 0
40 -- Morgan Shepherd 433 -1787 9 0 0 0
41 -- Kirk Shelmerdine 397 -1823 10 0 0 0
42 +1 Todd Bodine 350 -1870 8 0 0 0
43 -1 John Andretti 311 -1909 3 0 0 0
44 -- Hermie Sadler 272 -1948 5 0 0 0
45 -- Johnny Benson 271 -1949 4 0 0 0
46 -- Joe Ruttman 207 -2013 6 0 0 0
47 -- Andy Hillenburg 206 -2014 5 0 0 0
48 -- Larry Foyt 194 -2026 3 0 0 0
49 +4 Geoffrey Bodine 192 -2028 3 0 0 0
50 +5 PJ Jones 190 -2030 2 0 0 0
51 -2 Stanton Barrett 184 -2036 4 0 0 0
52 -2 Bill Elliott 163 -2057 2 0 0 0
53 -2 Bobby Hamilton Jr. 149 -2071 2 0 0 0
54 -2 Carl Long 138 -2082 3 0 0 0
55 -1 Kyle Busch 107 -2113 2 0 0 0
56 -- Andy Belmont 98 -2122 2 0 0 0
57 -- Mike Skinner 97 -2123 1 0 0 0
58 -- Eric McClure 90 -2130 1 0 0 0
59 +1 Mike Wallace 58 -2162 1 0 0 0
60 -1 Kerry Earnhardt 58 -2162 1 0 0 0
61 -- Kenny Wallace 52 -2168 1 0 0 0
62 -- Tony Raines 43 -2177 1 0 0 0
63 -- Randy LaJoie 34 -2186 1 0 0 0
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He's gotta get those handling problems under wrap or He's not gonna fair well at the end of the Year. I don't know if its not enough testing or what.
 
this within 400 points or top 10 thing is stupid.....way it looks now it will just be the top 10.

this is no way for racing....
 
Honestly.. I would like to see JR and Johnson to have problems and finish deep in the field during the next race so that more could slip under the 400 point radar.
 
Originally posted by WideOpenPhoto@Jun 21 2004, 11:31 AM
Honestly.. I would like to see JR and Johnson to have problems and finish deep in the field during the next race so that more could slip under the 400 point radar.
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Most likely, Sonoma is up next. :p
 
I was thinking the same thing Wide, although I don't want to see Jr slip too Far ^_^ But to make it more interesting :cheers: I'd like to see at least the Top 12 in the Title Hunt.
 
Won't happen though. We'll be lucky to have 5 drivers within 400 points after 26 races.
 
EMP your exactly right,
i said it before and once again this new points system SUX
what does it matter who is leading ? after 26 races the point spread from 1st to 10th will be 50 points.
 
Originally posted by RobbyG Fan+Jun 21 2004, 11:14 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (RobbyG Fan @ Jun 21 2004, 11:14 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--WideOpenPhoto@Jun 21 2004, 11:31 AM
Honestly.. I would like to see JR and Johnson to have problems and finish deep in the field during the next race so that more could slip under the 400 point radar.
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Most likely, Sonoma is up next. :p [/b][/quote]
not so fast, Jr finished 11th at Infineon last year and backed that up with a 3rd at the Glen. Not such a pushover at the roadcourses anymore.
 
Not to mention the added road course experience he got at Daytona this year. ;)
 
Jr. is going to get a top 5, just behind harvick, Robby Gordon, Tony stewart, and Jeff gordon. Jimmie Johnson better enjoy leading now, its all downhill from here.
 
Originally posted by coonhound@Jun 21 2004, 01:13 PM
Jr. is going to get a top 5, just behind harvick, Robby Gordon, Tony stewart, and Jeff gordon.&nbsp; Jimmie Johnson better enjoy leading now, its all downhill from here.
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I wouldn't count jimmie out yet, heres a comparison between Jimmie and dale jr over the last 10 races last year.

...wins/top 5/top 10
JJ 1......6.......2
JR 1.....3.......2
 
Originally posted by EatMorePossum@Jun 21 2004, 09:27 AM
Won't happen though. We'll be lucky to have 5 drivers within 400 points after 26 races.
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It will be hilarious and a tragedy if the 10th place driver is like 650 points behind at the break, then he wins the cup. He gains 600 points in one race! This system sucks. No matter who wins it, it sucks.
 
So it sucks when the "Wild Card" team wins the Super Bowl too? :)

Geeze, people, y'all have your mind made up and you haven't even seen it yet! :) You aren't even giving yourselves a chance to enjoy the final ten races.......it's all speculation. Why not wait to see? Last year at least half were yelling for changes to the points system.........we got 'em. Now half are yelling that there wasn't a thing wrong with the old system. Someone once said, "careful what you wish for"............this might be one of those times. :D
 
Bet the Jr. fans are cussing that 25 point penalty assessed against the #8 team right now as He would still have the points lead otherwise. :D
It was only a matter of time before Jimmie Johnson took the point lead as They've been running so strong and consistently recently. :D
 
Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2@Jun 21 2004, 06:23 PM
So it sucks when the "Wild Card" team wins the Super Bowl too? :)

Geeze, people, y'all have your mind made up and you haven't even seen it yet! :) You aren't even giving yourselves a chance to enjoy the final ten races.......it's all speculation. Why not wait to see? Last year at least half were yelling for changes to the points system.........we got 'em. Now half are yelling that there wasn't a thing wrong with the old system. Someone once said, "careful what you wish for"............this might be one of those times. :D
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The only change that needed to be made was the winner getting and extra 10-25 points.
 
Originally posted by 24thunder@Jun 22 2004, 05:16 AM
Bet the Jr. fans are cussing that 25 point penalty assessed against the #8 team right now as He would still have the points lead otherwise. :D
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This Jr fan isn't! :D

He spun his car intentionally and affected the outcome of the race, he deserved the points penalty..........he has recovered nicely, though!! :cheers:
 
I really do not care for footsballs either!!!!! Another example
of watchin grass grow. Too "beefy" for me.
I am just waiting to see how the end of this season plays out before
I make any hard comments.
And not being a Jr fan, I would love to see either Robby, Jimmie, or
Jeff G. stay up there.
Note: I don't dislike Jr. I simply like others better. :p
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Originally posted by DE_Wrangler_2+Jun 22 2004, 05:59 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (DE_Wrangler_2 @ Jun 22 2004, 05:59 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--24thunder@Jun 22 2004, 05:16 AM
Bet the Jr. fans are cussing that 25 point penalty assessed against the #8 team right now as He would still have the points lead otherwise. :D
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This Jr fan isn't! :D

He spun his car intentionally and affected the outcome of the race, he deserved the points penalty..........he has recovered nicely, though!! :cheers: [/b][/quote]
Alright DE,point taken,not all Jr. fans are cursing that penalty then. ;)
 
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