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DAYTONA BEACH, Fla. -- NASCAR announced Friday that Kurt Busch, driver of the No. 2 Dodge in the Nextel Cup Series, has been penalized 100 championship driver points, fined $100,000 and placed on NASCAR probation until Dec. 31, 2007, for violating Section 12-4-A (actions detrimental to stock car racing -- reckless driving; endangering a crew member on pit road) of the 2007 NASCAR rule book.

Car owner Roger Penske has also been penalized with the loss of 100 championship owner points due to his driver's infraction.

"I regret the incident that occurred at Dover and apologize to NASCAR, my sponsors, the fans, my Penske Racing team and Joe Gibbs Racing," Busch said in a statement. "I understand that safety is crucial to the sport and I accept the points penalty, fine and probation that NASCAR has imposed on me."

The penalty drops Busch from 11th in the championship standings to a tie with Bobby Labonte for 18th at 720 points behind leader Jeff Gordon.

The violation occurred on pit road during the race at Dover International Speedway on June 4.
 
Nascar once again proves that you can't believe them when they say that safety is paramount.
 
muggle not said:
Nascar once again proves that you can't believe them when they say that safety is paramount.
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I totally agree, this is uncalled for, if a driver is to ever be suspended for actions on the race track this is it. There is no excuse for this.
 
I am a bit confused by this, but began suspecting it as we went on and on without the announcement.
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Eagle1 said:
That's not NASCAR's e-mail address, that's the web-sites feedback, but It is owned and opporated by TNT, not NASCAR.
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well sheeeeeeeeeeeet.

oh well....then nascar.com got a nasty letter from me haha.
 
This is bull.

Harvick NEVER endangered anyone's life - Skurt did. :mad:
 
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
This is bull.

Harvick NEVER endangered anyone's life - Skurt did. :mad:
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If you remember the incident Harvick went tearing thru the garage area on his way the the Nascar trailer rather quickly with little regard to what was around him. That there were few people around was a blessing. But let's not annoint him the Papalcy just yet. ;)
 
MSNBC Headline:

NASCAR hammers Busch for reckless driving

Hammers ... funny.

More like SAFER barriered Busch.

That's alright - Tony doesn't forget. I betcha if Tony spun Kurt on Sunday on the track, they'd suspend him.
 
AndyMarquisLIVE said:
MSNBC Headline:

NASCAR hammers Busch for reckless driving

Hammers ... funny.

More like SAFER barriered Busch.

That's alright - Tony doesn't forget. I betcha if Tony spun Kurt on Sunday on the track, they'd suspend him.
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I would hope Tony isn't that stupid. Funny us fans are more upset with this penalty that the people involved on both sides of the issue. Last Monday night on his radio show Tony Stewart said he hoped NASCAR would NOT suspend Kurt.
 
Eagle1 said:
I would hope Tony isn't that stupid. Funny us fans are more upset with this penalty that the people involved on both sides of the issue. Last Monday night on his radio show Tony Stewart said he hoped NASCAR would NOT suspend Kurt.
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Tony just doesn't want anyone getting suspended because he figures it gives him more latitude the next time he does something really stupid. ;)
 
Eagle1 said:
I would hope Tony isn't that stupid. Funny us fans are more upset with this penalty that the people involved on both sides of the issue. Last Monday night on his radio show Tony Stewart said he hoped NASCAR would NOT suspend Kurt.
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This penalty is HUGE, and very severe. NASCAR used to treat these type of situations with a $50,000 fine, then let them race. But, NASCAR is starting to stiffen up their penalties, which is a step in the right direction. But I agree, Busch should have been suspended for 1 or 2 races.
 
JG24 said:
This penalty is HUGE, and very severe. NASCAR used to treat these type of situations with a $50,000 fine, then let them race. But, NASCAR is starting to stiffen up their penalties, which is a step in the right direction. But I agree, Busch should have been suspended for 1 or 2 races.
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Why is this huge?? The money goes into a pot and is distrbuted to the top 35teams at the end of the year so in essence Penske will simply get back some of what they paid in. If you want to make it huge then prevent those that pay in from getting any back and give it to the teams out of the top 35.

This is not huge it is a JOKE!!!
 
yea i dont see why that rule is still there. If anything, give the money to those after the top 35 to help their programs out.

I guess nascar wants to keep him in the race so they get more viewers looking for payback.
 
Magnethead said:
yea i dont see why that rule is still there. If anything, give the money to those after the top 35 to help their programs out.

I guess nascar wants to keep him in the race so they get more viewers looking for payback.
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How about they do what the other big sports do....give it to charity.
 
wolfcub said:
Why is this huge?? The money goes into a pot and is distrbuted to the top 35teams at the end of the year so in essence Penske will simply get back some of what they paid in. If you want to make it huge then prevent those that pay in from getting any back and give it to the teams out of the top 35.

This is not huge it is a JOKE!!!
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Like I said, NASCAR used to fine them $50,000, and that's it. Not only did they fine him $100,000 bucks, they also fined him 100 championship points, and they fined Roger Penske 100 owner points. So yes, compare this penalty to the past penalties in these type of situations, and it is much more severe. I agree that he should get suspended for 1 or 2 races, but my point is this penalty is much more severe than the past penalties have been. That's a step in the right direction for NASCAR.
 
Jeez, that'll make him think twice before he does it again though!
 
netzero-ward said:
Jeez, that'll make him think twice before he does it again though!
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Exactly. What people need to remember is NASCAR also parked Busch after that incident. Busch also said his intentions were NOT to harm the crew member, he wanted to confront Stewart. We need to take that into consideration before making claims.
 
The last thing we need is drivers thinking they can do what they want and get away with it, and drive onto pitroad like maniacs and start nailing crew members out on accident. NASCAR needs to lay down the law for once and all and make sure that nothing like this happens again. If they want to confront the driver they should do it after the race even, not on pit road DURING the race.
 
netzero-ward said:
The last thing we need is drivers thinking they can do what they want and get away with it, and drive onto pitroad like maniacs and start nailing crew members out on accident. NASCAR needs to lay down the law for once and all and make sure that nothing like this happens again. If they want to confront the driver they should do it after the race even, not on pit road DURING the race.
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I agree with you. If a driver wants to confront someone, they should do it after the race. I'm just making a point that we need to think about the situation before we make ridiculous claims. NASCAR parked Busch after the incident, and Busch said his intentions weren't to harm the crew member.
 
wolfcub said:
Why is this huge?? The money goes into a pot and is distrbuted to the top 35teams at the end of the year so in essence Penske will simply get back some of what they paid in. If you want to make it huge then prevent those that pay in from getting any back and give it to the teams out of the top 35.

This is not huge it is a JOKE!!!
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Well in case you didn't notice he is no longer in the Chase points, he is 17th now i believe, so i'd say that is pretty significant....wouldn't you?
 
de7xwcc said:
totally agree !!!!!:mad:
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Ok so he didn't get suspended , neither did Carl Edwards last year at Pocono. Kurt did lose a significant amount of points plus the owner points Penske lost. Not to mention Miller getting their name tarnished slightly, but i suppose that could work the other way also, maybe it will sell more beer for them....who knows. I do know this ...if you run Cup these days being as competitive as it is , loosing 100 points is a big deal, especially when you were in the top 12 at the time. Doesn't matter though , the guy is a punk, disrepective, a phony, and to top it all off he is a wuss. A real man would of taken it behind closed doors after the race and settled it. Never mind about doing it on the track where peoples lives could be endangered. Oh i forgot i'm talking about Kurt here ...well chances are he won't smarten up, but just maybe threaten him with a loss of contract and that might wake him up a little. Can you imagine him driving a car in the bottom points teir, that would be a rude awakening for him for sure.
 
Mopardh9 said:
Well in case you didn't notice he is no longer in the Chase points, he is 17th now i believe, so i'd say that is pretty significant....wouldn't you?
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Not really, still in the top 35 and will get part of his money back. Nothing like being rewarded for being an idiot!!
 
Talk about a bunch of hooey, Here is NASCAR'S reasoning

LONG POND, Pa. -- Moments after NASCAR announced the penalties handed down to Kurt Busch following Monday's pit-road incident with Tony Stewart, the question on everyone's lips Friday at Pocono Raceway was, "Why wasn't Busch suspended?"

After all, Kevin Harvick earned a trip to NASCAR's "penalty box" in 2002, sitting out the Cup race for rough driving during a Craftsman Truck Series race earlier that weekend.

NASCAR vice president of competition, Robin Pemberton, said a suspension was considered but felt "the 100-point penalty and $100,000 was substantial." In addition, Busch was saddled with a 42nd-place finish after NASCAR parked the No. 2 Dodge for the rest of the race at Dover (watch video).

"There's a reason why we don't do immediate penalties," Pemberton said. "We get together with our group and talk about it. We looked at a lot of different options and that was on the table at one time."

So how close did Busch come to missing this weekend's race?

"I won't say that it was close," Pemberton replied. "With our group, when we sit down as we do for every penalty, some take a little bit longer to get our arms around.

"It took two and a half days to work this thing out and do what was best for ourselves, Roger Penske and his group and Kurt Busch and the people that were on pit road."

Pemberton said he was in contact with key Penske Racing officials during the week, discussing the situation with vice chairman Walter Czarnecki and president Don Miller. Pemberton added NASCAR's highest priority is the safety of everyone in the pits.

"Accidents do happen and we don't need to put ourselves in the position to allow an accident to happen like that," he said. "The safety issues, particularly on pit road where the crew members are wearing fire suits and safety helmets, we have to take care of them."

Pemberton said he had another meeting with Busch scheduled Friday morning, apparently to impress upon him the severity of his transgressions.

"We just talked briefly after the race and we'll talk some more this morning," he said.
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I thought he should have been suspended also. If you really look at it he was for one race at Dover. When they parked him and he finished like 40th.
 
Finished 42nd plus lost 100 points. But, for some that's just not enough. I say let's form a mob, get some pitchforks and torches and march to his house. Drag him out and cut off his bawls. That'll teach'm.
Oh wait, he's in Pocono now. Gas prices are too high for me to go that far. Let's wait until he's back in NC.

Now who's with me...
 
Mopardh9 said:
Tony is a hypocrite for sure but at least he isn't a hypocrite that has no friends like Kurt Busch:growl:
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So what you're really saying is those people who are friends with Tony are also hypocrites. Like Kenseth, who Tony has run off the track several times. For if they were true to themselves they'd try to run over his crew members too.

Y'all know what you gone and done doncha'. I pull for Jimmie a small reason being that when he does good about 48% of this board threatens to jump from the handlebars of their tricycles. Now that I know Kurt will pull out another 37%, welllll...

What's Kurt's record at Pocono anyway?
 
barelypure said:
So what you're really saying is those people who are friends with Tony are also hypocrites. Like Kenseth, who Tony has run off the track several times. For if they were true to themselves they'd try to run over his crew members too.

Y'all know what you gone and done doncha'. I pull for Jimmie a small reason being that when he does good about 48% of this board threatens to jump from the handlebars of their tricycles. Now that I know Kurt will pull out another 37%, welllll...

What's Kurt's record at Pocono anyway?
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What i was saying was that Tony is a hypocrite who has friends, Kurt has NO friends, especially on the track, hell even his own brother doesn't like him.
 
That's not true. Here's Kurt with a group of his friends. He's in the back. I'm near the front on the right.

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Magnethead said:
I guess nascar wants to keep him in the race so they get more viewers looking for payback.
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There may be some truth to that statement. There are some shrewd business people running this thing. Why should they hurt themselves while punishing Kurt?
 
barelypure said:
Finished 42nd plus lost 100 points. But, for some that's just not enough. I say let's form a mob, get some pitchforks and torches and march to his house. Drag him out and cut off his bawls. That'll teach'm.
Oh wait, he's in Pocono now. Gas prices are too high for me to go that far. Let's wait until he's back in NC.

Now who's with me...
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Nah, yer bein' way too good for him. I say that we should have a squad of sharpshooters in the stands, all in strategic positions so that when a driver does something that the majority of the fans dislike, they can take him out right then and there. I'm sure that after the first five or six funerals, the drivers will act like total choir boys out there and will be polite as hell. Now who do you suppose will be the last boy standing/driving? :cool:
 
And, as you may be aware, all our comments mean nothing to NASCAR. It ain't gonna change folks.
 
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