Kyle Busch appreciation thread

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You are imagining (hatred) for Kyle. Why would anyone hate an athlete? He's just a race car driver, nothing more to me. I have others that I like more, and I'd rather see win, especially in the lower series. But I don't recall ever saying I hate the guy. I don't ever recall anyone on this forum claiming they hate him. Maybe disrespect him because of his cheap wins. But no hate here.
bull****. semantics. Don't kid yourself, it's hate. The amount of fingerprint wear on just this thread alone, denigrating Kyle Busch's accomplishments is almost unbelievable.Too much effort goes in to trying disprove his accomplishments for the feeling to be anything less than hate..
 

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bull****. semantics. Don't kid yourself, it's hate. The amount of fingerprint wear on just this thread alone, denigrating Kyle Busch's accomplishments is almost unbelievable.Too much effort goes in to trying disprove his accomplishments for the feeling to be anything less than hate..
Hmmm....if I hated Kyle Busch I wouldn't have posted condolences in the thread about his wife having a miscarriage . You don't people well enough to accuse them of hate. People usually call names when they run out if facts. Kyle is a great driver, no one has disputed that. I wonder what he's trying to prove beating up on inferior competition. Thats just me though.
 

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Hmmm....if I hated Kyle Busch I wouldn't have posted condolences in the thread about his wife having a miscarriage . You don't people well enough to accuse them of hate. People usually call names when they run out if facts. Kyle is a great driver, no one has disputed that. I wonder what he's trying to prove beating up on inferior competition. Thats just me though.
And me also.
 

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Correction in my previous post. It should have read " you don't know people well enough to accuse them of hate." Sorry for the confusion.
 

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bull****. semantics. Don't kid yourself, it's hate. The amount of fingerprint wear on just this thread alone, denigrating Kyle Busch's accomplishments is almost unbelievable.Too much effort goes in to trying disprove his accomplishments for the feeling to be anything less than hate..
For the one millionth time, no one is diminishing his accomplishments. Kyle is a top 10 driver all-time, end of story. We all know this, he's 8th all time on the Cup list for a reason. Dude is a winner and a champion, its just wacking the lower tier-series folks are not accounting for. A lot of guys are guilty of it. Hell, Harvick and Kyle Bu. won Xfinity championships as full-time Cup drivers for crying aloud... Those were some dark days...
 

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For the one millionth time, no one is diminishing his accomplishments. Kyle is a top 10 driver all-time, end of story. We all know this, he's 8th all time on the Cup list for a reason. Dude is a winner and a champion, its just wacking the lower tier-series folks are not accounting for. A lot of guys are guilty of it. Hell, Harvick and Kyle Bu. won Xfinity championships as full-time Cup drivers for crying aloud... Those were some dark days...
You made it back home safe I assume?
 

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For the one millionth time, no one is diminishing his accomplishments. Kyle is a top 10 driver all-time, end of story. We all know this, he's 8th all time on the Cup list for a reason. Dude is a winner and a champion, its just wacking the lower tier-series folks are not accounting for. A lot of guys are guilty of it. Hell, Harvick and Kyle Bu. won Xfinity championships as full-time Cup drivers for crying aloud... Those were some dark days...
Hey, at least Harvick has stopped that in recent years.
 

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bull****. semantics. Don't kid yourself, it's hate. The amount of fingerprint wear on just this thread alone, denigrating Kyle Busch's accomplishments is almost unbelievable.Too much effort goes in to trying disprove his accomplishments for the feeling to be anything less than hate..
Drop in the bucket compared to Jeff Gordon in his prime.
 

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Ok, I know splashing gas on the fire

How soon before win 250—-300?

Age wise I think 250 is easy.
 

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He said that but I think that he's too narcissistic to quit the minor leagues.
At this stage in his career, I honestly respect what he does in the Cup series. Anyone who can win at that level, at any track is a wheelman. Matters not if I like him. I'll gladly give credit where it's due. But what he does in the lower series is pure vanity on his part. What possibly could he be trying to prove? Does anyone think his fellow competitors respect that? I know the driver/talking head/commentator types have to play it up like it's some kind of an amazing feat, but it's really not that impressive. The Cup wins, you bet, the JV wins, nah.
 

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I remember when nobody bashed Mark Martin in the Winn Dixie Busch car.
Who's bashing? Was this forum around in the mid nineties? People probably didn't interact on a daily basis with many other people outside of their daily circle of freinds, co workers and family as much as they do now. And besides that, Mark Martin was far more likable.
 

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I remember when nobody bashed Mark Martin in the Winn Dixie Busch car.
i remember one time
mark felt so bad about beating the juniors, he pulled into the pits with one lap to go while leading, just to let the cry babys win.
 

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I don't think he will get those numbers. I wouldn't be surprised if his racing is reduced in the minor leagues next year and thereafter.

Yeah, I have underestimated Kyle several times and he proved me very wrong. I figure that all said and done, he will be remembered as the greatest driver to ever sit in a NASCAR race car.
 

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i remember one time
mark felt so bad about beating the juniors, he pulled into the pits with one lap to go while leading, just to let the cry babys win.


No matter, Kyle broke his win record with little difficulty. JGR must be mighty proud of their employee. Rumor has it that Kyle is entering a tricycle race next month, his fans will be watching
 

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I'll never understand Kyle Busch fans. His Xfinity wins are basically meaningless, he takes a superior car and whips on guys in lesser equipment and with less experience. If you get off on watching that, good for you, I guess. I'd rather not watch a former Cup Champion in the best equipment in the field in a lower series race, it's meaningless.

How many wins did Kyle have when he left JGR's Xfinity program for a year and moved to his own stuff? 0. Tells you all you need to know about the legitimacy of Kyle Busch's Xfinity win record.
 

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Yeah, I have underestimated Kyle several times and he proved me very wrong. I figure that all said and done, he will be remembered as the greatest driver to ever sit in a NASCAR race car.
If social media and the internet didn't exists as it didn't "back in the day," we would already be there. The good thing about technology is that it connects people. The bad thing about technology is that it connects people. The perception of Kyle would be totally different without tech. It would piss me off. You know how much I hate standing in line at the souvenir hauler only to find out that my items are on backorder because of the cling ons. Seriously, though, imagine the perception without the technology, or just for fun, imagine those back in the day with it.
 

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I'll never understand Kyle Busch fans. His Xfinity wins are basically meaningless, he takes a superior car and whips on guys in lesser equipment and with less experience. If you get off on watching that, good for you, I guess. I'd rather not watch a former Cup Champion in the best equipment in the field in a lower series race, it's meaningless.

How many wins did Kyle have when he left JGR's Xfinity program for a year and moved to his own stuff? 0. Tells you all you need to know about the legitimacy of Kyle Busch's Xfinity win record.
There are other drivers participating in the Xfinity series when Kyle runs? Didn't know. Didn't care. I will take every damn advantage of watching one of the greatest of all time drive every damn chance I get because he will not drive forever.
 

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There are other drivers participating in the Xfinity series when Kyle runs? Didn't know. Didn't care. I will take every damn advantage of watching one of the greatest of all time drive every damn chance I get because he will not drive forever.
Your perojative.

I watch racing to watch people race, not for any one driver.
 

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But what he does in the lower series is pure vanity on his part. What possibly could he be trying to prove? Does anyone think his fellow competitors respect that? I know the driver/talking head/commentator types have to play it up like it's some kind of an amazing feat, but it's really not that impressive. The Cup wins, you bet, the JV wins, nah.
He just loves to race and shouldn't be limited like he is. Hell yeah his fellow competitors respect and probably envy him for what he's done. Did you not hear what Harvick had to say about what Kyle has done when he was in the booth for the Xfinity race? To say it's not impressive is ignorance and puts down the Xfinity and Truck series. Those series are still top level drivers and a hell of a lot more competitive than most of Petty's competition at the time.
 

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Richard Petty has also never won a race in my lifetime. I'm not sure how bringing up a guy who last raced 27 years ago is relevant here. No one brings up Dale Earnhardt's Busch Series wins to make a case for him being the greatest. Earnhardt proved himself by winning 7 Winston Cups.

It's honestly not even fair to use the "200 wins!" bull**** to compare Busch to his contemporaries. Once Jeff Gordon and Jimmie Johnson were in full swing, they rarely dipped into the Busch Series. I'm sure that if Jeff Gordon showed up in Busch with Hendrick equipment, he would've easily passed 200 total wins. Unlike Busch, Gordon was able to go down to the Busch Series and win in his own equipment.

But since you brought him up, Richard Petty won 60 races and 4 championships in the modern era.
 

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“The point is don’t try to compare them. Because I think what Bobby and Cale and Darrell and Earnhardt and Pearson and Jeff Gordon and Richard Petty have done is phenomenal. And I think in a totally different category that runs kind of parallel in a parallel universe, what Kyle Busch has done is just as incredible. Just as spectacular.”
-Kyle Petty
He leaves out JJ's name lol the one guy Superior to Kyle. Yup, agenda

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I think you're very close, if not dead on.

Going back through the numbers, Jimmie's run from 2004-2013 was an absolutely insane period of domination statistically, while running hot executing in the playoffs, and cashing in on Championships. There's nothing that even compares in the modern era for that length of time, except perhaps Dale.

Highest peak career I'd have to give the nod to Jeff 95'-98', the 98' season 13 wins and 5.7 avg finish... I mean, unreal.

Other modern era season performances that popped out to me, DW 82' 81' Cale 78' 77' Petty 75'. Wow.

I would have DW/Cale tied together at #5 imo.


Kyle needs a 10 win clearly dominating season badly. As of right now he's in Rusty Wallace territory (which is really good company).

Kyle's best Cup season was last season. Both Truex and Harvick have had similar peak seasons to Kyle in the last 5 years (8 wins). Kyle is tied with Harvick for the most Cup wins in that time period with 22. Harvick most consistent on avg finish of the Big 3.

So yeah, I'd say KB has some big time work to do in Cup to move up the NASCAR greats list. These are his prime seasons.
Agreed. Maybe I remember wrong, but it's peculiar, I don't recall JJ's 12 year run being as "marketed" as all time as Kyle's. Maybe it was and I was younger, but I just remember, "no one ever!" That's it. No GOAT talk or anything. Hell, even after 7 he didn't get much GOAT talk, other than McReynolds saying he doesn't think so yet. Kyle Busch is a better star, so naturally the media would shove it down our throats.

As a result, Kyle's success can't be respected by the GA for what it is. A likely top 10 driver all time. His fans overrate him, and everyone else is annoyed with the media.


I was happy to see him win Sunday, but rolled my eyes once the announcers started talking about him.

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I've been following Kyle's career since he was 16 and it's been a lot of fun watching him over the years. Aside from his prodigious driving skill, he's been extremely entertaining as far as the drama and chaos he's created. Plus his detractors have provided me with much joy. Their near constant hypocrisy has bees something to behold.
 

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I've been following Kyle's career since he was 16 and it's been a lot of fun watching him over the years. Aside from his prodigious driving skill, he's been extremely entertaining as far as the drama and chaos he's created. Plus his detractors have provided me with much joy. Their near constant hypocrisy has bees something to behold.
Most entertaining driver of the last 25 years.

Do a YouTube search of KB quotes.

He knows his role, he sells it, he is great great entertainment

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