Kyle Busch appreciation thread

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If I owned a track I would love to have a 2 time Nascar Cup Champion racing on Thanksgiving weekend. Now I'm getting ready to go watch Kyle Larson kick some ass here in southern California.:dance:
 

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If I owned a track I would love to have a 2 time Nascar Cup Champion racing on Thanksgiving weekend. Now I'm getting ready to go watch Kyle Larson kick some ass here in southern California.:dance:
I'm at SNMP now. Should be a big crowd tomorrow to watch Rowdy. Forecast sucks though.
 

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Rained out. Sucks.

Wasted weekend, wasted Thanksgiving. Wasted year.
That does suck. The midget race in Ventura rained out also on Thur night but at least they ran it on Fri night... so it only cost me another day in a hotel room and then I got to see the race. Did you see Rowdy or did they postpone the race the day before?
 

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Kyle Busch #2 in Most Popular Driver voting. Perception is not reality. Fascinating. Get your head around that. Haters had a rough night at the banquet. The only thing that keeps Kyle from #1 IMO is the winner's last name.
 

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Kyle Busch #2 in Most Popular Driver voting. Perception is not reality. Fascinating. Get your head around that. Haters had a rough night at the banquet. The only thing that keeps Kyle from #1 IMO is the winner's last name.
I think a lot of fans are starting to see what has been pretty transparent for some time, and that is that Kyle is among one of the best drivers to ever drive in Nascar. But it is almost impossible to win the "I'm the son or daughter of a famous race car driver award" if you don't have a father or mother that was a famous race car driver. It has been that way since 2008.
 

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I think a lot of fans are starting to see what has been pretty transparent for some time, and that is that Kyle is among one of the best drivers to ever drive in Nascar. But it is almost impossible to win the "I'm the son or daughter of a famous race car driver award" if you don't have a father or mother that was a famous race car driver. It has been that way since 2008.
Since 2008? I'd say since the days of Dale Sr., what you said has been accurate!
 

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Gracious in defeat I see. Second year in a row for Elliott
I think a lot of fans are starting to see what has been pretty transparent for some time, and that is that Kyle is among one of the best drivers to ever drive in Nascar. But it is almost impossible to win the "I'm the son or daughter of a famous race car driver award" if you don't have a father or mother that was a famous race car driver. It has been that way since 2008.
It's an award for most popular driver, hell, even winning less DiBenedetto came in third. I do believe it means something and we could probably debate DiBenedetto's popularity was a consideration for the Wood Brothers/potential sponsors picking him up until the cows come home.
 

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Yes, most people are recognizing that Kyle is one of the best drivers of all time and he will certainly go down as one of the 10 best to ever do it. However, Kyle's speech, and his decision to include what he did in that speech shed some insight on what myself and others have suspected. there was something going on with his family behind the scenes. They were having trouble conceiving another child. that is going to affect any human being who has the capacity to love. myself in a few others have been saying for a couple months that something clearly was going on. It's tragic that he had to deal with something as emotionally challenging is that while competing for a championship. but it takes courage to make something like that public.

wish nothing but the best for Kyle and Samantha and hopefully they are able to have a second child without too many further issues

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Yes, most people are recognizing that Kyle is one of the best drivers of all time and he will certainly go down as one of the 10 best to ever do it. However, Kyle's speech, and his decision to include what he did in that speech shed some insight on what myself and others have suspected. there was something going on with his family behind the scenes. They were having trouble conceiving another child. that is going to affect any human being who has the capacity to love. myself in a few others have been saying for a couple months that something clearly was going on. It's tragic that he had to deal with something as emotionally challenging is that while competing for a championship. but it takes courage to make something like that public.

wish nothing but the best for Kyle and Samantha and hopefully they are able to have a second child without too many further issues

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Yeah, some lizards spread some ugly **** about what was up with Kyle. Good thing he doesn't care about that. I would suggest that his ability to perform under the stress/emotion he was under speaks to his brilliance behind the wheel. Reminds me of 2015 in some respects. The sport's #2 Most Popular Driver is gaining traction. I am good with it as long as I don't have to suffer backorder issues when ordering my Championship swag.
 

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Cheer up guys, he could have won the most hated category easily, coupled with a second place for the jackass, it ain't all bad.
 

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This was a cool video

A kid that age should not have that kind of hand/eye coordination. Uh oh. I've got his 2X Champion Dad paving the way. If history repeats itself, no doubt Brexton becomes The Most Popular Driver, and then who knows?
 

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Cheer up guys, he could have won the most hated category easily, coupled with a second place for the jackass, it ain't all bad.
Well, clearly you are wrong. If the Kyle hate narrative is BS, it makes me wonder what else is......How about that the racing sucked, and everybody thought that way? Haven't seen fake news like this since Hillary was reported to have a 13 pt. lead in the election Trump kicked her ass in.
 

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Yeah, some lizards spread some ugly **** about what was up with Kyle. Good thing he doesn't care about that. I would suggest that his ability to perform under the stress/emotion he was under speaks to his brilliance behind the wheel. Reminds me of 2015 in some respects. The sport's #2 Most Popular Driver is gaining traction. I am good with it as long as I don't have to suffer backorder issues when ordering my Championship swag.
One thing I gotta say about that, as much as I enjoy Kyle as an entertainer, I think him performing under that emotional stress has nothing to do with his ability behind the wheel. It speaks may more about him as a person and his ability to compartmentalize when when under stress when he has a responsibility. I mean this in the most kind of way, but it seems like you really idealize these personality traits in Kyle that truely aren't uncommon in everyday people, and aren't by any means exclusive to him. These traits show up in may ways. I can't help but wonder why that is. Is it something that his fans identify with, and thus feel the need to defend? I truthfully find that there is no middle ground with Kyle. Either his haters trash his fans and him and demonize him for traits MANY people have..or his fans defend him against his haters and worship him for traits MANY people have. It could be that due his authenticity with his "driver persona", naturally, his strengths and flaws as a person, tend to pull out authentic reactions to him.

I also have to say that one can be authentic and mature while also checking themselves..Kyle does this sometimes and just by the nature my work, I am very interested in when someone shows some self awareness. Kyle's one of the more interesting personalities in sports..and based on his ability to compartmentalize, be probably could have found some other career if he chose not to become a racecar driver.

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I mean this in the most kind of way, but it seems like you really idealize these personality traits in Kyle that truely aren't uncommon in everyday people, and aren't by any means exclusive to him. These traits show up in may ways. I can't help but wonder why that is. Is it something that his fans identify with, and thus feel the need to defend?
Truthfully, I do not think that Kyle possesses traits that are uncommon to everyday people. This is the appeal to his fans IMO. What is uncommon is the context with which he can compartmentalize. Neither of us could possibly imagine what it might be like to be upset by something far bigger than our careers, and take the **** he does from people who operate on the assumption that simply because I chose my career, I am obligated to do so. It would be understandable if this seeped into one's daily work, and impacted it in a negative way. What is uncommon about Kyle is his ability to block that out, and perform at a Championship level while doing so. This is about context. Does he create his own context? Probably. Don't we all?

One other point slightly off topic.....I think we all idealize our drivers based on the product they project. Part of the fun. We think we know who they are. We don't. Kyle might have given us a sliver of who he really is.....something he chose to do....we don't deserve it nor should we expect it. From this fan's perspective, I really appreciated it. He countered the narrative that he is a complete prick. Hard for the haters to swallow. Maybe that is some more connectedness to his fan base.
 

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Brexton is 4yo and most drivers start driving for sport at 5yo.

The father/son bond is fantastic though.
And you would realize the gap in development between a a 4 year old and a 5 year old would be pretty significant, right? I mean, a 24 and 25 year old, no, but 4 and 5....pretty significant.
 

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Truthfully, I do not think that Kyle possesses traits that are uncommon to everyday people. This is the appeal to his fans IMO. What is uncommon is the context with which he can compartmentalize. Neither of us could possibly imagine what it might be like to be upset by something far bigger than our careers, and take the **** he does from people who operate on the assumption that simply because I chose my career, I am obligated to do so. It would be understandable if this seeped into one's daily work, and impacted it in a negative way. What is uncommon about Kyle is his ability to block that out, and perform at a Championship level while doing so. This is about context. Does he create his own context? Probably. Don't we all?

One other point slightly off topic.....I think we all idealize our drivers based on the product they project. Part of the fun. We think we know who they are. We don't. Kyle might have given us a sliver of who he really is.....something he chose to do....we don't deserve it nor should we expect it. From this fan's perspective, I really appreciated it. He countered the narrative that he is a complete prick. Hard for the haters to swallow. Maybe that is some more connectedness to his fan base.
I dont think people hate as intensely as you say Rev. I'm sure they are out there, but I think "complainers" is more accurate.

For the record, I dont think Kyle compartmentalizing in his context is that unique either. He has to put it aside while focusing on performing at a championship level. It's hard to keep it in when there are cameras on you. Kyle recognizes that if he's upset aboutsomething, he can be upset and doesn't have to behave a certain way because of an unspoken job rule. I get that.

For what its worth, I was fresh from my recovery of guillian barre when I started my new job. Doing social work with seriously mentally Ill people with medical and physical disabilities could have been (and at times) has been very triggering for my own trauma associated with being so sick. And it was so so difficult. The amount of counter transference going on could have been detrimental to the therapeutic alliances I was creating with mentally Ill folks who depend on that relationship. Knowing that it can be a disservice to a client if I cant put that **** aside adds another layer of stress on top or the triggered trauma and counter transference during each session. I know for a fact what Kyle has dealt with is no more challenging than what I went through during my first 7 months on this job. I can relate to Kyle in that case. Not because it inspires me, I dont find it unique because I had to do something similar after learning to walk and breath again. It doesn't inspire me because I've been there. I can relate because I can sympathize with the struggle. It's much more sympathetic compassion than it is admiration. It really humanizes him. And I think it is good for his reputation (not necessary) that Kyle is a human being, dealing with human things outside of racing.

In a way, it's good for Kyle to share with the world that he and his wife have had conception issues. I think it brings in a level of compassion that not many people had for him at first. Kyle is really going to mellow out over the next few years I think
 

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I dont think people hate as intensely as you say Rev. I'm sure they are out there, but I think "complainers" is more accurate.

For the record, I dont think Kyle compartmentalizing in his context is that unique either. He has to put it aside while focusing on performing at a championship level. It's hard to keep it in when there are cameras on you. Kyle recognizes that if he's upset aboutsomething, he can be upset and doesn't have to behave a certain way because of an unspoken job rule. I get that.

For what its worth, I was fresh from my recovery of guillian barre when I started my new job. Doing social work with seriously mentally Ill people with medical and physical disabilities could have been (and at times) has been very triggering for my own trauma associated with being so sick. And it was so so difficult. The amount of counter transference going on could have been detrimental to the therapeutic alliances I was creating with mentally Ill folks who depend on that relationship. Knowing that it can be a disservice to a client if I cant put that **** aside adds another layer of stress on top or the triggered trauma and counter transference during each session. I know for a fact what Kyle has dealt with is no more challenging than what I went through during my first 7 months on this job. I can relate to Kyle in that case. Not because it inspires me, I dont find it unique because I had to do something similar after learning to walk and breath again. It doesn't inspire me because I've been there. I can relate because I can sympathize with the struggle. It's much more sympathetic compassion than it is admiration. It really humanizes him. And I think it is good for his reputation (not necessary) that Kyle is a human being, dealing with human things outside of racing.

In a way, it's good for Kyle to share with the world that he and his wife have had conception issues. I think it brings in a level of compassion that not many people had for him at first. Kyle is really going to mellow out over the next few years I think
Neither Kyle nor you are common. Seriously. Indeed, similar in compartmentalization. I can't name those who could not compartmentalize because they got fired, and we never knew. Props to you man. I truly enjoy your posts as you know. This is brilliant. Really....but I will contend that Kyle and you are a special breed. Good stuff.
 

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Kyle deserved it this year. Far from a fan but the haters are grasping at straws until February. It's amazing the people that are poking and prodding into his personal life.
 
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