Kyle Busch Whines Some More

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Busch looking for a team that supports him



LOUDON, N.H. - Kyle Busch said he's looking for a competitive car to drive next year after he leaves Hendrick Motorsports but also one fielded by a team that will support him.

"Somebody looking out for Kyle Busch," he said. "Somebody that will back me.

"Just an organization that'll be to the point and tell you to your face. I don't need somebody or people that will be sort of two-faced. They'll be telling you something [like], 'Oh, you're great' ... in the front, and then go behind closed doors and talk to somebody else and say, 'Man, he's out of control. What are we doing?'"

Asked if he was referring to his current situation at Hendrick Motorsports, Busch said, "I didn't see it [happen], but I've heard it. I'd rather just find somebody that does stand behind me ... instead of hearing through the grapevine that there's different things being said."

Busch said he's been talking with "a few" teams, although Penske Racing is not currently one of them (brother Kurt suggested talks were in progress with Penske during a conference call with reporters on Tuesday).

The options include both Chevrolet and Dodge teams, Busch said, though he added that there has been some discussion with at least one Ford team as well.

His preferable timetable to make a decision in four or five weeks, he said. But Busch joked there's one team he still hasn't heard from.

"Hopefully we will soon - I'm looking forward to be able to hear from McLaren," he said.

McLaren, of course, is the top team in Formula One racing.
 
seems like reporters whine about kyle busch more than kyle busch whines.
 
Sounds to me like Kyle will be lucky to stay in the car for the rest of the year spouting off like that.
JMO
 
Jeff Gordon whines wines more then both the Busch boys put together, so why are you making a big deal? :confused:
 
Kyle in a F1 car? Fine with me...they can have him. At least then half the drivers wouldn't know what he said when he complains or whines about them.
 
muggle not said:
No, no, no. What you mean is that is what Penske "deserves", two Busch brothers. :D
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nascarfan01 said:
Jeff Gordon whines wines more then both the Busch boys put together, so why are you making a big deal? :confused:
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I couldn't agree more :)

I do wonder if some of the HMS fans would turn on Johnson or Gordon, if they got booted from Eden, as they have Busch.
 
Patrick9999 said:
I couldn't agree more :)

I do wonder if some of the HMS fans would turn on Johnson or Gordon, if they got booted from Eden, as they have Busch.
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Are you kidding me, They are like Gods to the people here. When Kyle, Kurt or someone else does something wrong, they hang them from the tallest tree, But when Gordon or Johnson does something wrong....it's a whole different story.
 
Bucky, don't get me wrong, I wasn't just talking about the people here as they're a pretty good bunch but everywhere else I go and read there are people giving it to Busch big time. Even worse than Vickers got it.

I hate to rehash it but IMO, Busch was railroaded the heck out of HMS to make way for the second coming so I don't understand the hostility toward him. At least not from HMS fans.
 
Bucky Badger said:
Are you kidding me, They are like Gods to the people here. When Kyle, Kurt or someone else does something wrong, they hang them from the tallest tree, But when Gordon or Johnson does something wrong....it's a whole different story.
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Dang me, dang me
They oughta take a rope and hang me
High from the highest tree
Woman would you weep for me
:D :D :) :)
 
nascarfan01 said:
Jeff Gordon whines wines more then both the Busch boys put together, so why are you making a big deal? :confused:
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I don't remember Gordon calling HMS hypocrites, and that's basically what Kyle was getting at here.
I'm not a fan of any of them, just stated that I can't see him keeping the seat long mouthing about HMS being hypocrites and not supporting him.
 
I can see why Roush doesn't want Busch. He's afraid of Kyle whining louder than him. :D
 
I've never cared much for Kurt Busch personally. But, I sure did enjoy when Kyle did well driving for Hendrick. He seemed to be much more mature than his brother. But then you can't tell much about somebody until they face a little adversity.

Kyle and his agent tried a power play on Hendrick and it backfired. He wanted to get the best deal he could get, by leveraging different bidders. I have no problem with what he did, it is a pretty common business practice. I'm sure Rick Hendrick was bidding against other owners for Kyle's services. Kyle has said as much by claiming that he didn't know that his agent was holding other bidders over Rick's head until afterwords. I find that Kyle was being disingenous at best in that regard. If Kyle didn't know that his agent was doing this, then he certainly should have. The only thing Kyle didn't like about the whole thing is that Rick Hendrick made a business decision that he would rather sign Junior now and know he had him locked up, than to remain in constant negotiations with Kyle's agent.

I'm not saying that Rick Hendrick is the most honest man in the world. Frankly, he probably wouldn't be where he is in the business world if he was. I'm pretty sure I would not be a fan of HMS if my favorite driver didn't drive for them. If Jeff Gordon drove for Jack Roush, I would probably even find a way to root for Jack even though I don't care for that guy at all.

Bottom line is that Kyle has a lot of talent and at the same time a lot of growing up to do. He says he doesn't want to have to worry about people talking behind his back. Good luck with that, kid. It happens everywhere, in every business, especially when you are directly responsible for that company's success or failure on a weekly basis. A thinker skin and a slower mouth would serve him well. I hope for his sake that he gets a good ride and matures a lot. I still like the kid and hope he finds success.
 
I said it before and will, at the risk of being redundant and repeating myself in similarity to Xerox, say it again.
Kyle Busch is a driver to watch. He is good. He is better than good. Kyle Busch is the closest to being as good as Tony Stewart, who, IMO, is the best driver on the circuit today. Bar none.

I do not believe Kyle was railroaded by HMS or Rick Hendrick personally.
Hendrick made a choice of swapping out a driver who will win many races to bring in a driver who will win more than his share of races, be a sponsors delight and maintain the position of most popular driver.

Kyle Busch could take a few lessons from some of the guys who have been through the "politically correct" wringer to speed up his career and land a spot with a top notch team capable of winning every week. Something he blew with HMS.
If Kyle continues to flap his gums (a rerun of the Kurt Busch / Jack Roush affair) he might find it rough sledding to land with a team who must sell personality and "political correctness" together with winning races.

I dunno, but in my mind, a guy who keeps a level head, says the right things (even thought they are scripted) is better to sell a product than someone who is good at driving a race car but sucks in other areas.
Ya gotta keep the man who pays the bills happy. :)

In the situation with Kyle Busch, the guy is young, immature and needing some lessons in real life. It would be a shame if Kyle were to fail to learn the lessons, continue to play the part of the fool, especially having so much talent and ability :)
 
The owner/team that is willing/able to rein in this kid's emotion, teach him and give the necessary equipment will be rewarded with a Cup Championship.
 
BobbyFord said:
The owner/team that is willing/able to rein in this kid's emotion, teach him and give the necessary equipment will be rewarded with a Cup Championship.
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Agreed, but who will it be? Kyle was chatting up the #8 team when he was in the garage during Happy Hour,,,
makes me think...
 
Benevolent One said:
Bottom line is that Kyle has a lot of talent and at the same time a lot of growing up to do. He says he doesn't want to have to worry about people talking behind his back. Good luck with that, kid. It happens everywhere, in every business, especially when you are directly responsible for that company's success or failure on a weekly basis. A thinker skin and a slower mouth would serve him well. I hope for his sake that he gets a good ride and matures a lot. I still like the kid and hope he finds success.
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That sums it up nicely imo.
There is no question that the kid is a special talent. He will be a champion one day once he gets his head out of his ass.
As much as that pains me to say, I really don't care for his attitude.
 
Benevolent One said:
Kyle and his agent tried a power play on Hendrick and it backfired.
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Whizzer said:
I do not believe Kyle was railroaded by HMS or Rick Hendrick personally.
I still have a problem rectifying the 2 statements.
Kyle fired Alan Miller, his agent, when he found out what had been done. This is the same Alan Miller that had been involved in the DEI-Lil'E contract negotiations. I would love to know more about the negotiations Miller had been doing with those two deals.
I still think something stinks about the whole thing. As maybe it was Kyle that was forced to bend over and grab his ankles.
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Guys and gals its plain and simple. Rick Screwed Kyle over just to add Jr. To bad Kyle is the better driver...
 
nascarfan01 said:
Guys and gals its plain and simple. Rick Screwed Kyle over just to add Jr. To bad Kyle is the better driver...
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The more we hear about this, it sounds as if the agent representing Kyle was working both ends against the middle in the hope of getting a better deal for Kyle. Then the bomb blew up in his face. Kyle said he didn't know and Rick said he was negotiating with Miller for an extension while Miller says he was negotiating for Kyle with other teams and also negotiating a potential deal between DEI and Dale, Jr.. :confused: So who is on second ??? :confused:

No question Kyle is the beter driver but he is also the sort of albatross a top team, HMS, might not want to hang around their neck.
For one thing, it isn't always good for business and let there be no question, HMS is a business. A business makes money and with Kyle out and Dale in the group photo, HMS will win races and HMS will make more money with Dale than with Kyle.

Perhaps some haven't noticed, but drivers for HMS do have a reasonable amount of dedication to each other and show an uncanny ability to bond with Rick hendrick and the entire organization. this is a rarity in any sport or business. Kyle Busch did not fit in and apparently was not taking the lesson other team members were trying to offer, to heart.

Sometimes it isn't always about winning. Sometimes it is more about having everybody on the same page,. Having everybody trying to work together and acting as a unit rather than being the independent guy with mega-talent and an independent attitude. Even tony Stewart is trying to grasp that concept.
 
Whizzer said:
The more we hear about this, it sounds as if the agent representing Kyle was working both ends against the middle in the hope of getting a better deal for Kyle. Then the bomb blew up in his face. Kyle said he didn't know and Rick said he was negotiating with Miller for an extension while Miller says he was negotiating for Kyle with other teams and also negotiating a potential deal between DEI and Dale, Jr.. :confused: So who is on second ??? :confused:

No question Kyle is the beter driver but he is also the sort of albatross a top team, HMS, might not want to hang around their neck.
For one thing, it isn't always good for business and let there be no question, HMS is a business. A business makes money and with Kyle out and Dale in the group photo, HMS will win races and HMS will make more money with Dale than with Kyle.

Perhaps some haven't noticed, but drivers for HMS do have a reasonable amount of dedication to each other and show an uncanny ability to bond with Rick hendrick and the entire organization. this is a rarity in any sport or business. Kyle Busch did not fit in and apparently was not taking the lesson other team members were trying to offer, to heart.

Sometimes it isn't always about winning. Sometimes it is more about having everybody on the same page,. Having everybody trying to work together and acting as a unit rather than being the independent guy with mega-talent and an independent attitude. Even tony Stewart is trying to grasp that concept.
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I agree with most of your post. However, I may take exception that Kyle is the better driver. Kyle makes far too many mistakes on the track. Lets see how he does with a team other than HMS who undoubtedly gave Kyle top notch equipment.
 
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