kyle didnt get his lap back whats your comments on this???

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Jeff didnt let kyle get his lap back that one time and kyle tried to cut his tire

Then after that (one the next caution)jeff was going to let kyle get his lap back but rusty speeded up a little and jeff had to speed up
 
Though I like Kyle a lot........why should Gordon be obligated to give him a lap back? Kyle got himself down a lap.......it's up to him to get it back!! There is only so much a guy can do the help someone out......losing the lead to help someone at least 20 positions behind you is going a little far.:)
 
Two thing here.

Kyle has always had a race day temper. I'm glad to see the old spark back and hope it bodes well for the team to become more competitive

Upon reflection Kyle will realize that Jeff did nothing wrong. Indeed he already has. His post race comments:

KYLE PETTY (No. 45 Sprint Dodge Intrepid R/T) "It was close. I don't know if I beat him (Gordon) back to the line or not. It's their call. I thought he was going to let me have the lap back a couple of times, but he never did. I don't know what his problem was. That's the way it should be. I'm not blaming him. I agree with him 100 percent. I couldn't race him for the win, so it wasn't going to hurt him, but we had a good night."
 
If Gordon Wanted to Give Kyle his lap back he would have, and he didnt. Thats the way it goes. I see absolutley no reason why drivers should just give laps back to the guys behind them. They should earn it, but I guess they do it because they figure maybe I'll be in the same position someday and i'll need a lap back from him.
 
IMHO, nobody did anything out of line here, Jeff tried, Rusty was closing, and Kyle just didn't make it back in a photo finish to the get it back line.
 
I really don't think Jeff was concentrating that much on who to let get a lap back. I think his main concern was who was in his mirror. Rusty almost sneaked in there during that one run to the caution.
I really don't think Jeff intentionally tried to single out Kyle and not let him have his lap back. In fact that one time it looked like Kyle got his lap back. I don't envy any leader in a race when it comes to running to the caution. You have lapped cars wanting their laps back and then you have the lead cars right on your behind.
 
i think Jeff should of let up a few times becuase I dont think he wanted Kyle on his inside the whole time
 
It's not the lead cars problem Kyle's a lap down

Jeff couldn't even help his own car get a lap back.
 
The practice of giving laps back is lame.

Winners don't need charity.

NASCAR should reset the order according to the last green flag lap.

I, too, liked seeing the fire in Kyle return ... although I think it was not JGo's responsibility to help him out.
 
Originally posted by RockChalk
The practice of giving laps back is lame.
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In no other sport do you ever give the other guy even the remotest shot at a comeback. got em down, keep em down.
 
Originally posted by 71Fan


In no other sport do you ever give the other guy even the remotest shot at a comeback. got em down, keep em down.
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Well said 71Fan!
 
jeffy was trying to be nice that one time and it almost cost him the lead but petty shouldnt be dishearted he tried! :)
 
That was such a farce. Jeff should have let him have his lap back.
Hey, even Patty Petty went over to Gordo's pit to ask WTF was going on...I would have love to see her beat the crap out of all of them...I'll bet she wouldn't weigh 100 lbs. soaking wet.
 
Jeff had 2 things on his mind,And that was the car he was driving,And the car he is part owners of.I can't say anybody else would have handled it in any other way.Congrats to Jeff,Someday someone will repay the favor I am sure.;)
 
i don't think laps should be given back......if you get out in front on a restart and stay there....fine..you've earned it....
 
If Kyle would have gotton his lap back, chances are he would be lapped again. That is just one more car to pass during the late stages of the race.
 
from my point of view, lol, on the tv it looked like kyle passed the line just before gordan did but we dont know where the transponders were or where the timing and scoring stripe is so i guess he didnt get it back.
 
I have to agree with 71 here, don't let anyone back in.

And this racing back to the green stuff, is gonna get someone hurt, or even worse.
 
Isn't NASCAR the only series that races back to the caution?
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
Isn't NASCAR the only series that races back to the caution?
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I think so 66, In fact when I watch IRL, CART, etc, a caution yellow is right there at the point where the problem occured and not a full course caution.

On the other hand, Nascar is a different species.
I understood that there was a gentleman's agreement about giving back that lap, but it's not a rule. Jeff did try to give back that lap to Kyle, and to me it looked like K got it. BUT, this is racing, not WWE.
 
I just think that it would be so much safer if they didn't race back to the caution. Giving a lap back is kinda a yes but no thing for me. The leader might want to give a driver his lap back because he might be in the other situation later on, but, I think that they should earn there lap back. I don't know.
 
i wouldnt give laps back either. It gets dangerous racing back to the caution too. In the Jeff Green wreck wasn;t it kyle who almost plowed into the side of him while he was sliding down the track? Someday that could end up bein pretty bad. Kyle of all people should realize this.

I always like how in The Winston, Caution flag laps dont count and you reset back to the order the lap before. Also, the Caution laps not counting thing, no races could finish under caution.
 
Originally posted by 71Fan


In no other sport do you ever give the other guy even the remotest shot at a comeback. got em down, keep em down.
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That's right. And while you got 'em down, go ahead and give them a little kick to make sure they don't get back up. The practice of giving a lap back is gonna get someone hurt one day.

The leaders are slowing down while cars trying to get back are swerving through traffic like mad men. It's ridiculous. I think if the guy in second goes ahead and passes the leader a few times, you'll see an end to this practice. Rusty did it once.
 
:thumbsup: Except for team mate I would not give any one a lap back. You work so hard to lap them then give it back don't make sence. And it could come back to bite you in the butt.
 
I thought it was pretty rediculus what Kyle was doing, running Gordon up the track like that. He's been relatively competitive all year, he doesn't need to start acting like that.
 
I didn't see anyone giving Jeff Gordon laps back this season. I couldn't believe my eyes...it looked like Kyle Petty was trying to cut Jeff Gordon's tire because he couldn't get a lap back. What a bunch of crap! If Jeff had gotten a flat from Kyle and lost the race because of Kyle's antics, I MYSELF would have made a mad dash to Bristol and kicked Kyle's butt myself! :leap:I don't care what anyone says...Jeff Gordon is still one of the classiest guys around. He was willing to work with Kyle if Kyle would work with him. I guess that's better than having a cut tire! :p
 
Originally posted by DE Wrangler 2
Though I like Kyle a lot........why should Gordon be obligated to give him a lap back?  Kyle got himself down a lap.......it's up to him to get it back!!
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The #12 car had a lot to do with Kyle being a lap down. Kyle got behind him twice and was in the way. The #12 car was responsible for several cars losing their laps because he was in the way all night. I'm surprised no one moved him.
 
Originally posted by MRM


The #12 car had a lot to do with Kyle being a lap down. Kyle got behind him twice and was in the way. The #12 car was responsible for several cars losing their laps because he was in the way all night. I'm surprised no one moved him.
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That's a good point. Wonder why he was so off after being the fastest in happy hour?
 
Let's see. If my driver is late at the tree this Friday night, I wonder if the opposing driver would be kind enough to wait??? Nah!!!

Windsor
 
As far as I'm concerned........the leader is not obilgated to give anybody a lap back. Kyle showed poor sportsmanship in my book. He got his skinny butt a lap down and its up to him to try to race it back.......not force Gordon up into the wall to cut his tire down cuz Gordon didn't stop dead in the middle of the track. I know as well as other fans in here that Gordon is never given a break...or a lap back. No leader in his right mind would let Gordon back on the lead lap........he's such a threat to go on and win the race. :(
 
Originally posted by DirtyMo1381529
I always like how in The Winston, Caution flag laps dont count and you reset back to the order the lap before.  Also, the Caution laps not counting thing, no races could finish under caution.
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the only proble with that is the gas millage would mess up a lot of drivers
 
I didnt know this topic was so important to everyone, its staying up at the top alot longer then I expected.
 
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