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KYLE PETTY (No. 45 Georgia Pacific/Brawny Dodge Intrepid)
COMMENT ON DRIVING BELOW THE YELLOW LINE

"The rule used to be we couldn't go below the yellow line until we went to Talladega and Junior went below the yellow line, so I don't know what the rule is. When they penalized Sterling here for going below the yellow line, that was wrong. A rule is a rule, and I understand that, but sometimes you've got to use a little common sense. If the speed limit is 55 and you've got to run 80 to avoid an accident, don't give me a ticket. When the car in front of Sterling ignition went out and he had to swerve to keep from running into the back of it, you've got to use a little common sense. That was wrong. When Junior went below the yellow line, that was wrong, too. To compare the two issues, he was guilty, in my mind he was anyway."

"Unless you put a wall up down there, people are going to go below the yellow line. That's how simple it is. You're going to have to put up an inside wall, and that's dangerous. I say take it away and let 'em just go through there. Don't have anything. You've got grass. Nobody is going into the grass because you can't get back to get in line, so just take it out. Go back and watch a race from 15 years ago. Everybody ran up against the wall. Now everybody runs next to the white line because they know nobody is going to pass them down there. All they did was just take a move away from everybody. They just took the race track away. You won't pull to the inside of anybody because you're afraid they'll run you below the yellow line. If they run you below the line, you're the guy who gets penalized, not the guy who ran you below the line. They've not enforced that yet. They didn't go back and say, 'he ran him below the line, let's penalize him.'

"The total way we run restrictor-plate races changed when they did the line thing. I understand it's a safety issue, believe me, but it did change the way we run restrictor plate racing. Sometimes you drop a pebble in the water and you create ripples. They dropped a boulder in this one, and it created a lot of different issues. It solved a little bit, but it did create some issues."

COMMENT ON TWO PETTY ENTERPRISES CARS NOT MAKING FIELD

"Our engines didn't run from the time we got down here. We came back with the same stuff we came down here with in February. I qualified 10th on speed in February. John had some trouble when he qualified, but he had been in the top 15 in practice. This time we never got out of the bottom third of the field. Our engines just didn't run. From the time the season started, we've struggled all year long and we put ourselves in this position. We were put in this position for a couple of different reasons. I know the story, and that's all that really matters. That's just the way it is."

HOW DO YOU KEEP EVERYONE PUMPED UP AT PETTY ENTERPRISES?

"My problem is we struggled in 2001. We got better last year and now we're struggling again. That kind of surprises me that we're struggling again. We've got a really good group of guys that work on these cars, back at the shop and all the way through. We've been further down that this. This is not a major issue. There's always another day. The sun came up this morning and we all came back to the race track. We'll all go to Chicago and start on equal footing again. That's just the way it is. Everybody complains about how long the Winston Cup schedule is, but that's one good thing about it. There's always another race and you've got a chance to redeem yourself next week."

HOW'S THE 5-YEAR PLAN PROGRESSING?

"We're two and a half years into it. In a lot of respects we're exactly where we want to be. In a lot of things we've laid out with our engineering program and where our cars are aerodynamically, we're exactly where we want to be. Some things have taken a leap forward, and some things have taken a leap back. Our engine program has taken a leap back. That's how simple it is. You look at how we qualified last year and what we did last year compared to where we're at this year, and we ain't even in the ball game this year. We've struggled to make races. That's right back where we were in 2001 when we struggled with our engine program. We're going to have to keep discussing what it's going to take to make it better. You can't just throw in the towel and not come back again. We'll keep plugging along, keep having conversations and keep working at it. Nobody is working harder than Mike Ege and those guys over there in the engine shop. It's not that they're building engines to come to the race track not to perform. They do the best they can. It's like all of us. Sometimes we get in a place where the best we've got just isn't good enough. It's not an option right now (building his own engines). I made a commitment to Mike and made a commitment to where we're at. It's like sitting in traffic. If you change lanes too many times you still get to the same place at the same time. You need to just stick with something and just ride it out. Sometimes it's a tough decision, and it's a tough way to go, but once you make that call you've got to live with what you did. We made that call a couple of years ago, and we're going to live with Mike. Mike's done a really good job for us. Right now he's just run on some hard times and they're just not running like they should be, but they'll come back."

HAVE OTHER ENGINE PROGRAMS PICKED UP?

"I think some engine programs have picked up. Some have stayed the same and some have gotten worse. I think ours is one of the latter. When you look at it like that, we've not maintained. That's as much as a death nail in this sport as anything else. Maintaining, you fall behind. When you go backwards, you fall double behind and I think that's what we did."

COMMENT ON SHANE HMIEL

"Shane did a great job for us. We let Shane down. That's how simple it is. How the 43 car ran and what we did here is no reflection on Shane Hmiel's ability or talent. I hope he goes out here and wins this Busch race and show everybody what he can do. We know he can drive a race car. That was us letting him down. He didn't do anything bad for us. He's been around this sport with his father long enough, and he knows what's up and what's down."

WHY HAS IT BEEN SO TOUGH QUALIFYING PETTY CARS AT DAYTONA RECENTLY?

"If we had run the way we wanted to the first part of the year, we wouldn't have this trouble right now. You don't just come to Daytona in July and miss the race. You missed it way back early in the year. That's our issue now. We got behind then. We didn't get behind last week. We've got to get caught back up. We had cars that were good here in February. To come down here and use a provisional the next race is uncalled for by any stretch of the imagination. You should never be 10th at a race track one time and come back six months later and not make the race. That's unacceptable in any business."

WHAT CAN YOU DO IN THE RACE?

"Just ride. That's what everybody does here. Let's be realistic. If you look at Daytona and Talladega with restrictor-plate racing, you've got four or five cars racing up front and everybody else just rides around. In February this year, you saw Bill Elliott, who qualified well here, you see Bill and those guys go t ...[Message truncated]
 
If I were an owner and two of my cars didnt make the race, I'd be mad as well. Kyle Petty, Shane Hmiel, and Christian Fittipaldi arent bad drivers, if they had better equipment, like I said, they'd be up to par with the competition. 5 years ago with Bobby Hamilton and then on to John Andretti, they werent doing that bad. God knows that they probably wont get back to the winning ways of Richard Petty within the next 5-6 years, but I'm confident that they can get at least 1 or 2 wins within the next 2 or 3 years. I think it fell apart when Kyle was building the franchise for Adam to come in, however after Adam's death, Petty's plan for racing and the mission statement of the company probably changed dramatically.

As for the Yellow Flag rule, all I'll say is that the replays of Tony Stewart and Kenny Wallace made when they were penalized looked somewhat similiar to Dale Jrs. From their explanations it seemed like they were forced but they were flagged, Jr. was forced down but he wasnt black flagged.

I hope Petty Enterprises can get that Engine problem straightened out so they can get more horsepower and speed, something they've never seem to have had the past few years. Their comeback plan has hit some roadbumps, but with some luck, they'll probably get back to their winning ways.
 
Nothing Personal But Jrs pass on Kenseth was Illegal anyone in their right mind watchin could see that.
Im sorry but that was just an excuse to give him another win in my opinion (which Im Entitled to) :D
 
But regardless Petty Enterprises needs to fire mike edge in my opinion and get some new Engines
 
Hey Pettyfan4life glad to see your still around!
I totally agree with Kyle's comments about the yellow.
 
Kyle is right on about the yellow flag rule as it pertains to Junior. Anybody who is not a Jr fan knows that the rules are entirely different for Junior than they are for the rest of the field.

As far as the engine team, Kyle has made a very large financial investment in Mike Ege and I think he will ride it out a while strictly based on money issues. However, Kyle also knows that no matter how much money it would cost to replace Ege, it would likely pale in comparison to the cost of losing sponsors because of continued poor performance. It is a very tough situation for Kyle and all the Pettys to be in. But, they have been through more bad situations than anyone I can think of in the sport and they have always been up to the task.
 
Kyle needs to fire himself.
i hope they all miss the chicago race. Never did like Petty much but after they screwed John like they did i lost all respect i ever had for them.
 
I also totally agree with Kyle on the yellow line rule. It a bunch of BS!
 
Originally posted by de7xwcc@Jul 7 2003, 01:21 PM
Kyle needs to fire himself.
i hope they all miss the chicago race. Never did like Petty much but after they screwed John like they did i lost all respect i ever had for them.
ANd John was screwed how ??? Does anyone really know why John was let go from PEI ?? To the best of my knowledge, John has never tried to defend himself, Kyle has made no accusations and the sponsor is in apparent agreement with the decision of PEI. It is not necessary to agree or disagree with the release of Andretti, but either way it seems strange when there is so little known as to the reason on either side.

John Andretti is a good driver, not great, good. He has had limited success in each Winston Cup ride he has been in. A nice guy, personable, but there was obviously a problem within the organization that prompted his release. If there is information other than personal opinion, please share it at least with me since I might be the last one to know what happened even though I thought I was on top of this situation.

Once again the press went to Kyle, knowing he always gives a first rate interview. Like him or hate him, Kyle Petty is one of the most straight forward guys in the business. Kyle wasn't crying or whining on the Junior passs under the yellow line deal, he was doing exactly what he has always done, saying what is on his mind. He and nearly every other driver in the garage not associated with DEI, feel the same way. Most won't say it. The reason Dale got away with the yellow line pass was because of who he is and his popularity. ISC didn't want a destroyed race facility. Can you imagine what the result would have been from the thousands of fans in the event Junior, the most popular driver in NASCAR, had been black flagged for the move??? I can, and I ain't got no college degree but I do have a hi skool diplimat. :D
 
Originally posted by Whizzer+Jul 7 2003, 10:27 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Whizzer @ Jul 7 2003, 10:27 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--de7xwcc@Jul 7 2003, 01:21 PM
Kyle needs to fire himself.
i hope they all miss the chicago race. Never did like Petty much but after they screwed John like they did i lost all respect i ever had for them.
ANd John was screwed how ??? Does anyone really know why John was let go from PEI ?? To the best of my knowledge, John has never tried to defend himself, Kyle has made no accusations and the sponsor is in apparent agreement with the decision of PEI. It is not necessary to agree or disagree with the release of Andretti, but either way it seems strange when there is so little known as to the reason on either side.

John Andretti is a good driver, not great, good. He has had limited success in each Winston Cup ride he has been in. A nice guy, personable, but there was obviously a problem within the organization that prompted his release. If there is information other than personal opinion, please share it at least with me since I might be the last one to know what happened even though I thought I was on top of this situation.

Once again the press went to Kyle, knowing he always gives a first rate interview. Like him or hate him, Kyle Petty is one of the most straight forward guys in the business. Kyle wasn't crying or whining on the Junior passs under the yellow line deal, he was doing exactly what he has always done, saying what is on his mind. He and nearly every other driver in the garage not associated with DEI, feel the same way. Most won't say it. The reason Dale got away with the yellow line pass was because of who he is and his popularity. ISC didn't want a destroyed race facility. Can you imagine what the result would have been from the thousands of fans in the event Junior, the most popular driver in NASCAR, had been black flagged for the move??? I can, and I ain't got no college degree but I do have a hi skool diplimat. :D [/b][/quote]
damn straight, for all we know John asked to be let go, who gives a crap, its in the past
 
Originally posted by Whizzer+Jul 7 2003, 03:27 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Whizzer @ Jul 7 2003, 03:27 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--de7xwcc@Jul 7 2003, 01:21 PM
Kyle needs to fire himself.
i hope they all miss the chicago race. Never did like Petty much but after they screwed John like they did i lost all respect i ever had for them.
ANd John was screwed how ??? Does anyone really know why John was let go from PEI ?? To the best of my knowledge, John has never tried to defend himself, Kyle has made no accusations and the sponsor is in apparent agreement with the decision of PEI. It is not necessary to agree or disagree with the release of Andretti, but either way it seems strange when there is so little known as to the reason on either side.

John Andretti is a good driver, not great, good. He has had limited success in each Winston Cup ride he has been in. A nice guy, personable, but there was obviously a problem within the organization that prompted his release. If there is information other than personal opinion, please share it at least with me since I might be the last one to know what happened even though I thought I was on top of this situation.

Once again the press went to Kyle, knowing he always gives a first rate interview. Like him or hate him, Kyle Petty is one of the most straight forward guys in the business. Kyle wasn't crying or whining on the Junior passs under the yellow line deal, he was doing exactly what he has always done, saying what is on his mind. He and nearly every other driver in the garage not associated with DEI, feel the same way. Most won't say it. The reason Dale got away with the yellow line pass was because of who he is and his popularity. ISC didn't want a destroyed race facility. Can you imagine what the result would have been from the thousands of fans in the event Junior, the most popular driver in NASCAR, had been black flagged for the move??? I can, and I ain't got no college degree but I do have a hi skool diplimat. :D [/b][/quote]
IMHO Petty screwed over John to give whats his name a ride. from the interview i saw with John (track side at Michigan) he sure as hell didn't see it comming. And as for the apparent reason John was let go do you think it might have had something to do with Kyle being the boss and not wanting to give up driving himself. John has shown he can win in BS cars, (ie: Petty cars) Has Kyle ? i think not.

i didn't say a word about the yellow line BS. Sure i think jr should have gotten the black flag nastycar didn't, what you going to do.

Like i said Kyle should have fired himself if he wanted to give Christian a ride.
 
Kyle is right on about the yellow flag rule as it pertains to Junior. Anybody who is not a Jr fan knows that the rules are entirely different for Junior than they are for the rest of the field.

thats funny comming from a Gordon fan
 
Lemme just say this, if Kevin Harvick passed below the yellow line, NASCAR wouldve blackflagged him.

Petty Enterprises like I said just needs the equipment to maintain good finishes, it isnt the drivers, putting Christian Fittipaldi or Shame Hmiel in wont solve anything.
 
Originally posted by de7xwcc@Jul 7 2003, 01:21 PM
Kyle needs to fire himself.
i hope they all miss the chicago race. Never did like Petty much but after they screwed John like they did i lost all respect i ever had for them.
DE7XWCCC, I recognize your opinion and respect it.
Neither pro or con in my post but an expressed interest since we don't know what the real reason is/was and no one is talking. It could be, Andretti was looking at another team after promising Kyle he was in for the long haul, a good reason to bounce anybody. The thing is we don't know.

Since this is also an opinion, mine, my guess the reason Kyle stays in the car is his name sells. A recent study reports sponsors are looking for teams and drivers with name recognition and personality who are willing to work within a corporate structure such as hospitality tents, corporate gatherings, etc.. Someone who is willing to learn about the product and be capable of speaking about it. Some sponsors are more interested in this type person than they are in winning or top ten finishes.
NASCAR is such big business and NASCAR fans so loyal, sponsors report high percentage increase in sales once taking on a sponsorship. In Kyle's case, he fits the bill as good as the top two and better than the rest.

IMO, that is why he is still behind the wheel. Plus, I think he keeps hoping the win will come for him and he can dedicate the race to his son Adam. For him and his family along with the thousands of fans, it would be a wonderful day if it were to happen.

As or the "new" drivers, only time will tell. So far Fitipaldi hasn't impressed and Miehl didn't have horsepower. Next time we'll see because they WILL have power and then there are no excuses. Next race is balz to the wall time. :cheers:
 
Originally posted by BudNapa815@Jul 7 2003, 08:59 PM
thats funny comming from a Gordon fan
It's always nice when a newby comes in trying to slam a senior member for stating the plain truth. ;)
 
im not slamming anyone........i think Jeff Gordon has gotten his fair share of gimmes by nascar in the past
 
Originally posted by BudNapa815@Jul 8 2003, 01:56 AM
im not slamming anyone........i think Jeff Gordon has gotten his fair share of gimmes by nascar in the past
True enough. I definitely think Jeff has gotten a little bit of preferential treatment in the past, some of which I feel he has earned. I even thought of that as I was posting that. However, there is a very big difference between a little latitude shown to a 4-time champion and blatantly disregarding the rules because a kid is a fan favorite because of his name.
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin@Jul 7 2003, 09:23 PM
True enough. I definitely think Jeff has gotten a little bit of preferential treatment in the past, some of which I feel he has earned.
Ah ha! So a driver "earns" favortism or is it ticket sales? How is this fair to the upcomer or little guy? And then that would mean that Jr. gets "preferential treatment" also? <though we know he does.>
 
Originally posted by Highboy90+Jul 8 2003, 02:33 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (Highboy90 @ Jul 8 2003, 02:33 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--4xchampncountin@Jul 7 2003, 09:23 PM
True enough. I definitely think Jeff has gotten a little bit of preferential treatment in the past, some of which I feel he has earned.
Ah ha! So a driver "earns" favortism or is it ticket sales? How is this fair to the upcomer or little guy? And then that would mean that Jr. gets "preferential treatment" also? <though we know he does.> [/b][/quote]
Hey don't try to confuse me with the facts :p

In actuality I hate it when I see any bending of the rules. It always seems to taint the sport. The sport already seems tainted to the world outside of NASCAR.
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin+Jul 7 2003, 06:25 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4xchampncountin @ Jul 7 2003, 06:25 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--BudNapa815@Jul 7 2003, 08:59 PM
thats funny comming from a Gordon fan
It's always nice when a newby comes in trying to slam a senior member for stating the plain truth. ;) [/b][/quote]
Newbie slamming a senior member?? So now we have to bow to the opinions of the person being here the longest. Seems to me I have every right to my opinion.

I feel the no black flag call on Junior was the correct call. He was well along side and even ahead of Kenseth before Kenseth forced him below the line. I also feel it was the wrong call in the sterling or stewart call. I think the rule is idiotic. If a driver wants to go below the line onto the apron or into the grass, more than likely he will wreck himself or lose speed that way. If a car is force below the line with contact then penalize that driver that caused the contact.

The junior incident happened months ago, let it go.
 
Originally posted by 4xchampncountin+Jul 8 2003, 02:23 AM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (4xchampncountin @ Jul 8 2003, 02:23 AM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'> <!--QuoteBegin--BudNapa815@Jul 8 2003, 01:56 AM
im not slamming anyone........i think Jeff Gordon has gotten his fair share of gimmes by nascar in the past
True enough. I definitely think Jeff has gotten a little bit of preferential treatment in the past, some of which I feel he has earned. I even thought of that as I was posting that. However, there is a very big difference between a little latitude shown to a 4-time champion and blatantly disregarding the rules because a kid is a fan favorite because of his name. [/b][/quote]
Just wonderin', but how does any driver "earn" preferential treatment ??? True, it does happen to some drivers more than others and at times it is flagrant, but what is it they do to "earn" this reward ??? :blink:

And the idea Jeff Gordon is a four time WInston Cup Champ gives him special privledges ?? That kind of logic woulda got Dale Earnhardt, Sr. a gold toilet seat in the NASCAR rest room.

Jeff Gordon "earns" respect for what he has accomplished, nothing more and certainly nothing less. He has never needed preferential treatment and proved he is more than capable of winning at any track. When preferential treatment was afforded Gordon, it is doubtful it was requested, and in possibly one situation helped him win. I doubt seriously Jeff Gordon is looking for any latitude on or off the track because he is a four time WC champ. If it comes his way by chance, he, like any other driver, will take it. :D
 
I dont think you can blame the equipment for the poor showing of Kyle and Christian at Sears Point. It was a poor display of talent by both drivers, especially Christian who is supposed to have some road racing experience.
 
First let me say that the comment about "Jr's pass of Kenseth was illegal" is ridiculous. I am A Kenseth fan and i really dont like Jr so with that said I shall say that Jr. passed Kenseth at Talladega was clean and he should not have been penalized. Besides Jimmie Johnson was leading at that point anyway on the outside of the #17. But I do agree with Kyle Petty about there is no consistency about the yellow line thing. Do away with it and let them race.
 
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