Leave the Grass to pot heads.

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N2racin44

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Concrete the hell out of these tracks. Give the competitors the ability to have alot more room to manuver around a wreck. Put an end to these cars flipping end over end. Sure it will not look as good as grass but I am sure the drivers will not mind.
 
IMHO, bad idea. That wet grass may have helped save Mikey from serious injury.
 
Maybe not kat, he likely wouldn't have flipped if it had been concrete instead of grass.
 
Yeah, but the wet grass was the factor in causing the flipover in the first place. Remember Elliott Sadler's wreck at Talladega?
 
I have to agree with you Kat. All that concrete talk comes mainly from Mikey and though I like him and think he's a pretty darned good driver, he really isn't much of an expert on the subject. One thing grass does that concrete doesn't is it does not produce sparks which ignite fires and I'd be much more afraid of a fire than some flips.
 
Negative. Think of all the flips that you have seen. Elliot Sadler, Ryan Newman, Rusty Wallace, Davey Allison, Bill Elliott Darrell Waltrip. They all flipped becuase there cars dug into the grass. You can not dig into concrete and in most cases your accident would look like Dale Earnhardts when he flipped at Daytona once over and that is it. Did Davey Allison not flip at Charlotte on the concrete just once? When you flip on concrete your initial flip would have to be from another car hitting you. It most cases there is not enough momentum for that to be much but the wind underneath the car would do the rest to turn you over. After that you would have slowed down enough for the car to not flip over again but on grass the car would continue to dig which would cause the car to flip over and over again. The benefits outway the negatives. How many times have you heard drivers say that the car actually picks up speed on grass. IMO the tracks do not want to do it because it will not look pretty. Cost is another but then you would not have to maintain the grass.
 
So you paint the concrete with the alternating strips of green to look like grass from a distance. You paint on the various logos. As has been said unless a car gets help in getting airborne it is really hard to flip on a solid surface. Also, the cars wouldn't tear up the front valance going across it. Pave'm.
 
Plus most of the fires are not caused by the sparks from sliding along the concrete. The fires start from the heat from the headers and exhaust pipes.
 
Originally posted by Dinoforthe3@Feb 16 2004, 12:38 PM
Plus most of the fires are not caused by the sparks from sliding along the concrete. The fires start from the heat from the headers and exhaust pipes.
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But there is usually a broken oil line or fuel line, too.
 
I cannot, in all honesty, see how grass has any advantage over concrete/asphalt. I personally find it infuriating to see a driver setting in wet grass spinning while cars are zooming by. As for what Waltrip thinks... does anyone really listen to him anyore? He may have overstepped his bounds...unless he speaks for ALL teams.

Driver and fans alike have been complaining about it for years. Same as RP's, spoilers and some pit areas. Some because of the potential dangerous situtions they represent. So, a few people complain over the course of a half season about the point system and they change THAT. Get that darn grass out of the infield and leave it to the happy people in the parking lot.
 
I think concrete would be more dangerous to the car/driver if he were to flip onto it. But the wet grass was most likely the main factor in causing the flip, so it's kind of a wash there. Bothe have advantages and disadvantages. We were on the infield of the tri-oval for the pre-race activities and that ground was WET!! So I'm sure the backstretch (where we were sitting and thus got a really good view for the wreck) was equally saturated letting the car dig into the ground and flip over..

Here's what I saw:
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I think the grass does a better job of slowing the cars down and absorbing the impact. Imagine if cars get loose and go across the concrete (still carrying alot of speed) and get slung up into the middle of turn 1 with traffic and or the wall. Just a thought.

Hawk
 
You are able to use your brakes to slow the car more on pavement than on grass. You are also able to steer the car better on pavement than on grass.
 
If you remember the Steve Park and Dale Jr. wreck at Pocono a few years ago, that would not have been as bad if that had been paved.
 
You scrub no speed off when sliding through grass. You would scrub alot of speed off sliding on concrete.
 
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