Lets say Jimmie Johnson suddenly gets awful

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He breaks the record for most last place finishes in a row -- 6. In the process he drops out of the top 20 and misses the chase.

Who would win the championship? IMO it would either be Kevin Harvick or Kyle Busch -- Matt Kenseth is inconsistant, Carl Edwards Dale Jr and Clint Bowyer have been purely okay as of late, Kasey Kahne isnt QUITE there (he could finish third though), and people like Greg Biffle, Martin Truex Jr, and Jeff Gordon have been having the kind of seasons that make their chase bubble status make sense.
 
Wishing in one hand and defecating in the other are you?
 
If you going to go that far Mr.Fish might as well say Danica will win the Championship
 
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MOEJOE said:
Wishing in one hand and defecating in the other are you?
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Remember I am a Jimmie fan too. I just dont find it that entertaining when he dominates every damn week. To the point of where I was somewhat glad he had issues at New Hampshire.
 
I dont care for the domination either, but you have to enjoy the postives of hacking off the haters. He wears the hate well; enjoy.
 
This is one crew chief away from been actually true. :D





Kidding Captain...but really he would definitely get a reality check without Chad.
 
So while we're talking crazy, I'll say that Hamlin wins everyone of those 6 races in which Johnson finishes last and goes on to take the cup.
 
#17D500winner said:
So while we're talking crazy, I'll say that Hamlin wins everyone of those 6 races in which Johnson finishes last and goes on to take the cup.
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Are we keeping it within the realm of posibilities here? Because he couldn't even be top 15 if he won 6 races in a row. lol
 
#17D500winner said:
I'd say that Hamlin's chances of making the top 20 are better than Johnson's are of missing it or the chase.
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Yeah obviously.

Mathematically Johnson cant miss the chase with 6 races remaining to the Chase while Denny has 16 races to crack the top 20.

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Actually let me check the points, not sure I can say that with certainty about Jonhson.
 
reck said:
Yeah obviously.

Mathematically Johnson cant miss the chase with 6 races remaining to the Chase while Denny has 16 races to crack the top 20.
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You do realize that there is little to no seriousness to this thread?
 
#17D500winner said:
You do realize that there is little to no seriousness to this thread?
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Which is why I said if we were keeping it within the possibility of it happening. Not something outrageous that couldn't happen even if a person tried.
 
I don't get why some people think Jimmie Johnson instantly becomes Timmy Hill if Knaus ever leaves. Yes, I'm sure the performance would drop off slightly (a la Jeff Gordon when Evernham left), but they'd probably still be one of the best teams out there.
 
reck said:
Which is why I said if we were keeping it within the possibility of it happening. Not something outrageous that couldn't happen even if a person tried.
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I just don't understand what you're saying, I guess.

AFAIK, Hamlin can make the top 20 and with 2 wins, then make the chase.
 
ToyYoda said:
I don't get why some people think Jimmie Johnson instantly becomes Timmy Hill if Knaus ever leaves. Yes, I'm sure the performance would drop off slightly (a la Jeff Gordon when Evernham left), but they'd probably still be one of the best teams out there.
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rumor has it nascar is going to give him two choices, one: he runs with three tires, or two: Hendrick is to have rotating crew chiefs. Nascar is trying to reduce the number of Black helicopters flying over headquarters.
 
ToyYoda said:
I don't get why some people think Jimmie Johnson instantly becomes Timmy Hill if Knaus ever leaves. Yes, I'm sure the performance would drop off slightly (a la Jeff Gordon when Evernham left), but they'd probably still be one of the best teams out there.
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jeff gordon and ray evernham ring a bell? and since it does, were you around when I had to listen to everyone tell me that Gordon would be better than Earnhardt?

got to give jimmie and chad their due. cause once upon a time, I wasn't sure jimmie could ever drive a racecar. but those two, and team, have got it figured out. together. and if they are smart, we'll never know what they could do without each other.

just my opinion
 
StandOnIt said:
Hendrick is to have rotating crew chiefs. Nascar is trying to reduce the number of Black helicopters flying over headquarters.
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This solution would help no one but Hendrick. lol
 
Like people have said, Jimmie would still be good without Chad, but not great. Thats the magic of their paring -- its like cheese and crackers, or a ***** and a ****** ;)
 
Captain Coyfish said:
Remember I am a Jimmie fan too. I just dont find it that entertaining when he dominates every damn week. To the point of where I was somewhat glad he had issues at New Hampshire.
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Dominating is when back in the day the field was seven laps down to the leader. that doesn't happen anymore. When JJ is dominate, in your mind, he's fighting a loose or tight car. That's the challenge for him. Not the field.
 
MOEJOE said:
Dominating is when back in the day the field was seven laps down to the leader. that doesn't happen anymore. When JJ is dominate, in your mind, he's fighting a loose or tight car. That's the challenge for him. Not the field.
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Umm I dont think so.
 
#17D500winner said:
I just don't understand what you're saying, I guess.

AFAIK, Hamlin can make the top 20 and with 2 wins, then make the chase.
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I think he 118 points out of the top 20 right now. Even if he won 2 in a row he would need to count on the people ahead of him in points finishing last.... he would need to make a full max points race up twice and then about half a race on those drivers... a win means not much if Burton, Ambrose, Montoya or Stenhouse finish in the top 10 or even 20... also I don't know what AFAIK means so u may just be joking lol... im not sure but if ur not then here's ur reality check.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
I think he 118 points out of the top 20 right now. Even if he won 2 in a row he would need to count on the people ahead of him in points finishing last.... he would need to make a full max points race up twice and then about half a race on those drivers... a win means not much if Burton, Ambrose, Montoya or Stenhouse finish in the top 10 or even 20... also I don't know what AFAIK means so u may just be joking lol... im not sure but if ur not then here's ur reality check.
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Im pretty sure its physically impossible for Jimmie not to make the chase...between his wins, and point lead...
 
Why does Johnson have to miss the chase to not win the title? I expect him to win it but its no lock.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
i read he needs to be 193 points ahead off 11th to ensure he's in... right now hes 178... so he could solidify his chase position this weekend.
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Thats crazy. Is that the earliest a position has been clinched?
 
SlicedBread22 said:
maybe.. I would think so .. pretty damn big points lead... ive only been watching since 08 so im not sure but its definitely the biggest lead ive seen under this system
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Yeah same...by the way who did you root for before Joey came to cup?
 
SlicedBread22 said:
Agreed. You never know what'll happen at Talladega and someone could alwys go on a smoke like tear and surprise everyone... except of course smoke himself
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If Toyota is turning the wick back up and Kenseth limits bis problems, he has a really good shot. As would Kyle, Kahne.

I dont think anyone else really has a shot.
 
Captain Coyfish said:
Yeah same...by the way who did you root for before Joey came to cup?
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Tony Stewart.....My dad was always a Smoke fan.. so I naturally followed suit... when I started watching every race I wanted to pick my own driver... so with Joey being a rookie and me being a rookie fan, and Joey taking over in the 20 after Tony.. I picked Joey. Needless to say a few years of disappointment followed. However I never have and never will give up hope... also within the past 2 years he's showed me he's got what it takes. Especially this season, the points don't reflect it but the speed is there. They'll grab a win or 2 this season and be a solid contender next season.
 
Lazyking said:
If Toyota is turning the wick back up and Kenseth limits bis problems, he has a really good shot. As would Kyle, Kahne.

I dont think anyone else really has a shot.
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I think Kahne or Kyle has a way better shot than Kenseth to be honest. Yeah he has those 4 wins but he only has 5 top 5's.. needs more consistency to even have a hope in hell.. I'd say Kasey will be JJ biggest competitor.. but Ive said it before and Ill say it again... you never know whats gone happen... I just keep thinking 2011
 
Also .. Toyota will be turning the HP back up to full power at Michigan and I wouldn't be surprised if they have similar results with their engines. They say that will be the package they use in the chase.. so if it doesn't work well then theyre doomed. In which case Kasey Kahne is my fav to take the title.
 
As of right now, it looks like Hendrick is ahead of everyone. The past few weeks they've really been showcasing their horsepower. Therefore I would say Kasey Kahne has the next best chance, he was close last year and he can win on any type of track. Since Toyota dialed it back they haven't been able to compete for wins like they were earlier in the year, otherwise I would have said Kenseth.
 
SlicedBread22 said:
I think he 118 points out of the top 20 right now. Even if he won 2 in a row he would need to count on the people ahead of him in points finishing last.... he would need to make a full max points race up twice and then about half a race on those drivers... a win means not much if Burton, Ambrose, Montoya or Stenhouse finish in the top 10 or even 20... also I don't know what AFAIK means so u may just be joking lol... im not sure but if ur not then here's ur reality check.
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As Far As I Know.

Yes, I'm joking :) Hamlin isn't going to make the chase and Johnson isn't going to miss it.
 
Captain Coyfish said:
Im pretty sure its physically impossible for Jimmie not to make the chase...between his wins, and point lead...
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He cant miss the chase.

He would fall out of the top ten if he finishes 43rd the next 5 races AND drivers from 2nd to 10nth in points either win the remaining races or finish top 5.

As for Denny, what SliceBread said.

Been 118 points out with 5 races to go he would need to make not only make up 118 just to get into a top 20 but he needs to also win and leap frog the ones who already have a win and in the top 20.

With 5 races until the chase you can say its impossible unless all the drivers in front of him decide to finish 43rd, 42nd, 41st and so on for the remaining races while also letting him win.

This is what you call a catch 22.
 
Maybe Johnson will break his leg in an offroad truck race or something and we'll get some excitement in this Chase.
 
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