Looked to me like the 22

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Was the fastest individual car there in the last 20 laps or so.

Anyone agree?

He seemed to be able to move up and even pass cars sometimes without help and pushing cars, the 22 was stout.

I didn't think Blaney would pull out and take a chance, given their need to stay in the top 35. But I think that car was visibly stronger than the others in the last few laps. Not saying he would have won- Jeff is just so good driving that track, but I think that car was really strong.
 
SuperC, I agree. Blaney looked as if he could move when/where he wanted.

I think had the points situation been a bit different, he would have made something happen.

Glad to see Blaney and BDR get a good finish.
 
I think if his car was that stout he would of been up front and would'nt have to worry about any risk
 
I didn't even notice his car until they were taking the checkers and he was there alongside Jimmy. For a minute I thought he was a lapped car but then was like holy cow, he was on the lead lap, he finished third, a close third. If he'd had some help up there who knows. After this weekend, Toyota has got to be licking their chops in anticipation of next season. They without a doubt will be strong maybe not the way Honda was when they joined CART but enough...
 
Don't count your eggs yet

Those Yota's might have been running up front most of the day and they probably did't notice the Chevy teams sandbagging in the back all day only to drive to the front when the time was right.Wonder if Nascar noticed?
 
Don't forget the Ford contingent that comprised a pack all their own. They ran between the main pack of Dodges and Toyotas and in front of the Chevys.
 
steveluvs3 said:
I think if his car was that stout he would of been up front and would'nt have to worry about any risk
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lol - i didn't mean he was seconds faster and could have driven away. you're right - he would have. we're talking about fractions of difference here. but it just looked to me like the car, individually, was stronger than the others, individually, at the end.

i bet the gibbs guys were happy to see those toyotas running strong too.
 
dirtguru said:
Those Yota's might have been running up front most of the day and they probably did't notice the Chevy teams sandbagging in the back all day only to drive to the front when the time was right.Wonder if Nascar noticed?
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I'm pretty sure NASCAR noticed that the Chevy teams were hangin out till the end. There's two ways these plate races are run, the Chevy teams are either slow during the race and then come on strong at the end or the Chevy teams dominate the race and sweep half of the top 10 finishing spots. Look at this: Harvick won the Daytona 500, he hadn't done anything during that race to indicate he was a contender. With Dodges plate luck & if Stewart had not crashed, it would've finished Stewart & Kurt BUsch. At the Aarons 499, the Chevy teams just kinda hung out all day and then at the end, they all got in line and blew past everyone just like this past Sunday. The only reason a Chevy didn't win the Pepsi 400 is because Stewart, Hamlin, & Junior crashed & the Hendrick teams failed to work together properly allowing Roush to sneak in only his 5th ever plate win as a car owner. Last season the Chevy's dominated the plate events, also in 2005 with the exception of Jarrett's lucky late race pass on Stewart at the October Dega race. As a matter of fact if you go back as far as the 1993 Winston Cup Season, Chevrolet has won 45 of the 60 restrictor plate events that have been run (not including the one-off at Loudon). Ford is second with 13 & Pontiac & Dodge have 1 each. Since the inception of the plate, Chevrolet has never been shut out of victorylane in the 4 race plate season. Only twice has Chevrolet not won at least 2 of the four races, 1988 & 89. Only once did a make other than Chevy win more than 2 plate events in one season. Only one time was the four race season completely diverse in makes in the first season of 1988 when Allison's MHL Buick won the 500 & then Parson's Skoal Classic Olds won the Winston 500 followed by Elliott's Coors T-Bird at the Pepsi & Schrader capturing his first ever career victory in Rick Hendricks TG Shepherd Folgers Monte Carlo at the Diehard 500. With all this history even leading up to this past weekends events at Talladega, NASCAR already knew the Chevy teams were gonna be the teams to beat out there. They gave the Fords new cylinder heads back in 92 & worked for Allison's two wins at Daytona & Talladega but then Irvan came on strong. They went to the common template & it didn't work, they went to the COT and that now has still produced the same result. As far as plate racing go's, Chevy is in the Skybox while the other makes are all in the nosebleed section. For now anyways thats just how it is...
 
dirtguru said:
Those Yota's might have been running up front most of the day and they probably did't notice the Chevy teams sandbagging in the back all day only to drive to the front when the time was right.Wonder if Nascar noticed?
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What problem would Nascar have with that? It's a strategy that has evolved and resulted from Nascar's rules at the plate tracks. There is a minimum speed and as long as cars maintain that, I don't see what problem Nascar could have if a team decides that its in its best interest to stay out of the fray until the last 30 laps.

It's just a strategy move that doesn't violate any rule.
 
The announcers even made mention that at times the Chevy pack was faster than the lead Dodge/Toyota pack.
Oh, and does anyone else find it amusing that Kyle Busch chose to run with the Dodge/Toyotas rather than the rest of the Chevys after he cried about his team mates not supporting him...
 
barelypure said:
The announcers even made mention that at times the Chevy pack was faster than the lead Dodge/Toyota pack.
Oh, and does anyone else find it amusing that Kyle Busch chose to run with the Dodge/Toyotas rather than the rest of the Chevys after he cried about his team mates not supporting him...
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It just looked to me like he was too impatient to wait it out at the back, rather than a choice to run with anybody over anyone else. IMO.
 
I missed most of the race, but I wonder if the running in packs detracts from the racing, especially for those at the track.

From what I saw, there were two packs behind the leaders who had zero interest in doing anything but staying in line and counting laps. What's worse about it, is the fact that those cars are the ones who were in contention for the win.

How long until we have just about everybody in line until the last 20 laps?

If I were a driver, I'd certainly look at that option really seriously...clearly patience pays off. It's not like you're going to 'break away' from the pack and start putting folks a lap down. Take it easy for 3/4 of a race... it's like a snow-day for third-grader.

Ah... RP races...
 
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