Man, does Ganassi have it in for Spencer or what?

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From Jayski.com:

After car owner Chip Ganassi let Jimmy Spencer go as his Winston Cup driver [of the #41], a deal has now been worked out with BGN owner James Finch that has cost Spencer a second ride. Ganassi has put up some extra money so Finch can run the full schedule with four different drivers in the #1 Yellow Freight machine. Jamie McMurray will run 15 races, Casey Mears up to seven, the others are going to be split between CTS driver Ryan Hemphill and ASA competitior David Stremme. Crew chief Marc Reno says they would like to pick the driver they feel most comfortable with this season and take a shot at the BGN championship in 2004. As for Spencer, he was caught off guard when he learned he wouldn't be driving the car. Spencer told PRN's Garagepass, "I was shocked in a way because the.way it went down. It was a business decision on James' part and I can live with that. I can't agree with the way it was handled with who he sided with, but that's life. Yellow has been a great company for me and I wish them the best of luck."
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I wounder if there is something behind the sceens between Chip and Jimmy that we don't know about, or if Chip just wanted to alline himself up with a BGN team to put his drivers in to get more seat time and the #1 car was the best offer. My guess is that they will switch to Dodge.
 
Ganassi continues to screw up Spencer's driving career. What a shame.:(
 
Whats Jimmy gonna do now? Didn't Spencer field his own Busch car for a few races during 2002?
 
That's rough, really rough. I don't know if Ganassi has something against Spencer or what, but the Busch ride was more than just coincedence.
 
Originally posted by 66mustang
Ganassi continues to screw up Spencer's driving career.  What a shame.:(
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Hmmm, so it's Ganassi that's screing up Spencer's driving career. I guess Jimmy didn't have anything to do with it. Also, I guess Finch is just a puppet in the scheme of things. I don't know what's going on either, but I wouldn't come out and say that it's all Ganassi's fault.
 
Ganassi is a god, that's been racing in the open-wheel and NASCAR series' for years.

To say that he's "screwing up" some nobody like Jimmy Spencer's carreer is an insult to what he stands for in motorsports.

Spencer isn't worth the dirt underneath Chip's fingernails.
 
I think Spencer destroyed a lot of equipment and wasted alot of money when he was with Ganassi. Same could be said for the 1 car in BGN. Spencer made alot of bad moves. Can't blame the owners in this case. Theres no conspiracy against Jimmy.
 
Jimmy always ran good in the #1 car and normaly was up there to battle for the win. There was just a couple times he wrecked and i don't think they were his fault. I rember a tire let go and he crashed,i think he had a couple blown motors as well. Jimmy gave the #1 car the best rides its had in a long time. I wish Jimmy the best in the #7 Ultra Motorsports car next year, he should be thankful that he did not have to take the BAm car as a last option like Schrader did.
 
Originally posted by paul
Ganassi is a god, that's been racing in the open-wheel and NASCAR series' for years.

To say that he's "screwing up" some nobody like Jimmy Spencer's carreer is an insult to what he stands for in motorsports.

Spencer isn't worth the dirt underneath Chip's fingernails.
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Way to sugar coat it Paul.
 
Originally posted by paul
Tis the truth I speak. :)
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I agree Paul, but I can't help but feel sorry for Jimmy (in a way).
Maybe he should have gone to BAM, hehehe
 
Originally posted by 711DRT
So is Spencer confirmed in the 7 car??
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I tried to find something on this.........but my search skills are not really very good.:( I certainly hope so, though. Guess this past season I've become a full blown Jimmy Spencer fan.......it all started with listening to the constant degrading comments by others about his weight, his "Jimmy, never forgets" statement and such. I've been watching Spencer race for quite some time and up till then, he was just another racer that I had no real interest in (kind of Kenny Schrader, Kyle Petty, and a few others). Someone who, in my observations was a decent driver not in the best of equipment. So my take on this latest thing is that I'm disappointed.......actually, a little mad.:) I only can hope that the #7 Sirius deal works out for Spencer........and that he takes that ride a kicks a few butts next year.

And, as for Chip Ganassi........I certainly don't think he's God. In fact, I could say he's something much less in stature......quite low as a matter of fact. Guess, I now have someone to root against next season........I've never thought Sterling Marlin was a particularly great driver so if he finishes poorly, I wouldn't be in the least bit disturbed. Casey Mears and Jamie McMurray are just another couple of rookies that only time will tell if they are worth all the hype being directed toward them. And if they wind up like Casey Atwood, then it will only bolster my opinion that they were moved up too quickly to the Cup.

Going to be an interesting season next year.:D
 
Chp's good, competitive to the hilt, but not GOD worthiness. I think he really dislikes spencer or he would have let him drive the 1 yellow aligned himself with the team and supported another team from that stable.
 
I think Paul was being sarcastic, and notice he said god, not GOD.

I want to see Jimmy in the sport and Chip is now X in my book.
 
Kat, why are you dumping on Ganassi? Is it because he isn't loyal to a driver? If that's the case, We'd all be dumping on everyone. Jeffy jumped ship from Bill Davis who brought him along and was expecting him to go Cup racing as a team. Jeffy went where the money is, and that was his decision. Ganassi has been around a long time and like a lot of owners, a former driver and knows what and where he wants his teams to go. Jimmy is very much like Kenny Schrader, but with two less wins. The presure is on to win and Jimmy has had his chances. Chip felt it was time to move on. Chip also saw an opportunity to help develope more drivers and acted on it. If Jimmy is good enough, he will find another ride if he hasn't already. But...who wants him?:eek:
 
Who wants him, buck? Evidently not too many owners at this time. Who might be wise to pick him up over some of these unknowns.......in my opinion, several. But, of course you have to take into account the way sponsors and partners are at this time. Andy Petree/Jerry Jones is a prime example of that........the the popularity of the sport has brought a bunch of "interested" parties to the table but when it comes to the long haul it turns out they are all that interested after all.:) My feelings about Chip Ganassi are about the same as my feelings about Jerry Jones (there is a reason I never liked the Dallas Cowboys.:) ). Chip put all his eggs in one basket with Sterling Marlin.........it bit him on the butt and now he's having some problems with that image he is so proud of (a fierce competitor that wins!). I don't know what his problem with Jimmy Spencer is but I do know Jimmy had one season to win.......I doubt he got what he needed to accomplish that from Ganassi. Yeah, drivers and owners dump on each other all the time.......but they don't appear to go out of their way to make it bad for the dumpee! And Chip is so high on two rookies that have not proven much yet........wanna bet next year at this time the whole world will scratching their heads as why poor Jamie and Casey never were given a chance? I think that will happen because Chip Ganassi will once again put all his eggs in the Coors Light basket.........he wants a championship at all costs.:(
 
Originally posted by DE Wrangler 2
I think that will happen because Chip Ganassi will once again put all his eggs in the Coors Light basket.........he wants a championship at all costs.:(
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This sounds a lot like Jack Roush in his early days. Jack is still waiting for that first championship. I think that Chip could very well fire one or both of the newbies, but that wouldn't be anything new. Besides, he knows that Sterling isn't getting any younger and though he had a great year last year, his record isn't all that great either. I can't tell you why Chip went after Casey Mears except that he must have seen something in him that he likes. Who would have thought that Jamie would have won, even in one of the best cars? In todays game, sponsorships mean everything and that means that a team has to perform or your just a back marker and that means less money. If you have an old war horse working for you, you don't have much in the way of excuses if the team doesn't work. On the other hand, if you have a relatively new stud driving for you, you can at least use that as an excuse, but more importantly, you can train said stud to drive the way you expect him to.
 
Nothing to argue about there, Buck. However, all that does not change my opinion on Chip Ganassi one ioda. There are sponsorships that are patient enough to allow a team to be built.......Coors is certainly one such sponsor. And there are owners who are willing to do that building.........Ganassi is not one such owner. Sterling is on the bubble next season........he better perform (i.e. win a Championship) or he's out like Spencer.:( I'm well aware of the nature of the business these days.......a couple years ago Lycos and Johnnie Benson sure brought that to light for me. It'll go this direction for a couple (maybe a few) more years and then all the short term investors and owners will fall by the wayside and NASCAR will continue........though at a somewhat slower pace. Meanwhile I can root for any Ganassi driver to have misfortune on the track.:) Everyone needs a "bad guy" to cheer against.......it used to be Jeffy, but he managed to turn that around for me!:)


Oh, I forgot to mention.........I took Paul's god statement as a sarcastic remark.:) I've argued with Paul enough to be able to pick up things like that.:D So, it's not in his court.:D
 
I think Chip had a legitimate gripe with Spencer, starting with that team not even making the 500 at the start of the season. I think also that Target wanted results.....wins.... from that team. It is all business and Jimmy didn't produce, kind of sucks that he lost the Yellow ride because he did do quite well. I think Spencer would do better to go to the Truck series. That would suit his driving style much better....same with Schrader. Gannasi isn't God, but when he speaks you better listen....he is a big name in the sport just like Yates, Penske, Everham, and Rousch. I really think Jamie will do well for him, Mears is another story, could be a a little too quick a call up for him.
 
Alls I can say is hahahaha im sorry i cant stand dough boy
 
Ganassi isn't even close to being on par with Yates, Penski, or Rousch in NASCAR.........Evernham, maybe. Why don't we "experts" just delegate Jimmy back to the Modifieds....at least he has proven himself there! On what are you basing your statement that CTS is more his style? Same question to you about Schrader.:mygawd:
 
Well DEW, what more can I say? :) BTW, I didn't say the ball was in Paul's court because of the god comment. I just said it because I wanted him to respond. I love to sit by and watch a good debate. :D Not that I would start any, don't you know! ;)
 
Buckster, it's not what he did, just how he did it. I'm also pizzed at Rudd for the dragged out drama this season.

But I still Reaspect all and wish no harm. PURRRRRRRRR
 
Originally posted by kat2220
Buckster, it's not what he did, just how he did it. I'm also pizzed at Rudd for the dragged out drama this season.
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I used to like Ricky Rudd, back when he was driving the 26 Quaker State Buick. I thought he would win a championship some day, but at that time, he was blowing engine after engine. I began to think less of him after he bought his own team. He seemed to whine a lot more then, and then when he went to Yates, I actually began to root against him. He thinks he's a prima dona and that he should be able to do what he wants on the track and the other drivers must get the hell out of the way. He could have really maimed Kevin Harvick after their little get together had he been able to hit Kevin when he first tried, but luckily for Kevin, Ricky was able to cool down a bit more and then gave Kev the love tap that enabled Ricky to go on and win.
 
Ya know, I was kinda hoping the rumors swirling about Harvick taking over Rudd's ride this year were true. I would love to see him back in a Ford.
 
In the old days 66, I'd have said that Kevin will probably end his carreer with RCR, but I can't say that now. Kevin is still quite young and he could end up driving a Toyota if the price is right. So don't hang up your hopes just yet. Give him another 15 - 20 years.
 
Well DE I think Gannasi is in the same leauge as Yates, Rousch,ect...... he has been very influential in the Indy series and has a lot of $$$. As for Spencer in the trucks , what i meant by that is he has a go for it type of style that is more prevailent in the truck series. You can rub a little more in that series than you can in WC. I like Schrader, don't get my wrong, he has his own truck and i think he would do well in the that series full time rather than going with team like BAM that will be nothing but headaches for him.
 
I hope Ganassi (emphasis on the second syllable) never wins another race.

It just slays me how some fans want to blow the Earnhardt horn and holler how the sport needs characters to keep things interesting. Then ya give them one, and they hate him. Beats me where that comes from.

Maybe Jimmy just needs a drinking problem to gain him some fans.
 
Originally posted by TN-Ward-Fan
I hope Ganassi (emphasis on the second syllable) never wins another race.

It just slays me how some fans want to blow the Earnhardt horn and holler how the sport needs characters to keep things interesting.  Then ya give them one, and they hate him.  Beats me where that comes from.  

Maybe Jimmy just needs a drinking problem to gain him some fans.
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You're right, that's very silly and pointless...I see your point.

It's almost as pointless as disliking someone because they race "dem pointy cars".
 
Its pretty much like this..
Ya got 1 year to produce for the team, if ya dont.. your out!
There is Jimmy's problem.. he didn't produce..

He had a good run every now and then, but nowadays, every now and then isn't good enough. I'm surprised Casey Atwood stayed in as long as he did...
 
Originally posted by bud_stud
Its pretty much like this..
Ya got 1 year to produce for the team, if ya dont.. your out!
There is Jimmy's problem.. he didn't produce..

He had a good run every now and then, but nowadays, every now and then isn't good enough.  I'm surprised Casey Atwood stayed in as long as he did...
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I guess I wasn't too clear when stating my problems with Chip Ganassi and what has happened to Jimmy. When the news of Jimmy's release came out about a month and a half ago I believe I stated that Jimmy's a big boy and can take care of himself. Chip can hire and fire anyone the pleases........he owns the team. Spencer fell short of Ganassi's performance demands and he's gone..........I was disappointed, but, hey, that's the breaks in the big time. What has bothered lately is the appearance that Chip Ganassi has gone after Jimmy's ride in the Busch series........it may, in fact, be just a business move. However, it does not appear to me that is all it was.......Spencer did pretty damned good in the Yellow Freight car last year. Why did he take his ride there too? If he wants a proven driver in a Busch car, seems to me that Jimmy would fit the bill quite well..........was he afraid that would come to light to the world of NASCAR if he left Spencer in the car?

All it really boils down to is that his booting Spencer out of a pretty good ride after releasing him from his Cup ride is something I find very distasteful. So, like I said earlier, I now have a team I can root against........smile when one of them blows up, or taps the wall, or just plain finishes poorly! It has nothing to do with Chip Ganassi's CART roots or anything like that........I just don't like the way he does "business".
 
DEW, I don't think what transpired is all what you think. First off, Finch's car is a good one, but because he doesn't have enough money for a full year, he only ran a few races. Ganassi saw the chance to help out a fellow owner and help himself out at the same time. He could put some new kids in that seat and help them learn and help Finch out too.
 
Yes.........that's the line Ganassi is putting out. But, he also could have helped Finch out by letting Jimmy drive the car too! I agree, it's business.........but it's cut throat business. I don't like it.
 
Originally posted by paul
You're right, that's very silly and pointless...I see your point.

It's almost as pointless as disliking someone because they race "dem pointy cars".
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...or as inane as rooting for people because they have driven them ol' bumble bee pointy cars too, huh? :rolleyes:

Peddle your daisies in a different airport. You won't convert me. :p
 
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