Manny Ramirez out for 50 games

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NEW YORK - Manny Ramirez has been suspended for 50 games by Major League Baseball, becoming by far the highest-profile player ensnared in the sport’s drug scandals.

The commissioner’s office didn’t announce the specific violation by the Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder, who will lose about one-third of his $25 million salary.
 
Source: Ramirez’s substance a sexual enhancer
By Tim Brown and Steve Henson
3 hours, 25 minutes ago

AP - May 7, 12:33 pm EDT MLB Gallery LOS ANGELES – A source close to Manny Ramirez(notes) said Thursday that the illegal substance for which the Los Angeles Dodgers slugger tested positive was not “an agent customarily used for performance enhancing.”

At least not on the baseball diamond. The source, who spoke on condition of anonymity, said the drug was prescribed to address Ramirez’s erectile dysfunction.

However, two sources said the substance Ramirez tested positive for a gonadotropin. Major League baseball’s list of banned substances includes the gonadotropins LH and HCG, which are most commonly used by women as fertility drugs. They also can be used to trigger testosterone production. Testosterone is depleted by steroid use, and low testosterone can cause erectile dysfunction.

“Testosterone and similar drugs are effective for erectile dysfunction in that they jazz up your sex drive,” said Charles Yesalis, a professor at Penn State who has testified before Congress on issues of performance-enhancing drugs. “But far more clinicians accept that affect with ****** and Cialis. It’s hard for me to understand if it was erectile dysfunction why they would use it.”


Ramirez tested positive for the substance during spring training, then had the urine – a “B” sample – tested again more recently, and it also was positive. Major League Baseball notified Ramirez of the second positive test after Wednesday night’s Dodgers victory over the Washington Nationals. Ramirez admitted to having taken the substance and declined to appeal. His 50-game suspension begins today.

“The substance is not a steroid and it is not human-growth hormone,” the source said.

Ramirez, the source said, acquired the substance through a prescription from a doctor in Miami for his medical condition. The source intimated that Ramirez might bring legal action against the physician.

Ramirez released the following statement Thursday morning: “Recently I saw a physician for a personal health issue. He gave me a medication, not a steroid, which he thought was okay to give me. Unfortunately, the medication was banned under our drug policy. Under the policy that mistake is now my responsibility. I have been advised not to say anything more for now. I do want to say one other thing; I’ve taken and passed about 15 drug tests over the past five seasons.

The Dodgers, who have won a Major League record 13 consecutive home games to start the season, will be without Ramirez until July 3. Outfielder Xavier Paul was promoted from triple-A to take Ramirez’s place on the roster. The suspension will cost Ramirez close to $8 million in lost wages.


Drugs or hormones that increase testosterone production often show up on banned lists.
 
doesn't surprise me. albert pujols next? hope not, he's the one big hitter that i give a chance of being clean now and in the past.
 
doesn't surprise me. albert pujols next? hope not, he's the one big hitter that i give a chance of being clean now and in the past.

Naw, I would bet on Ken Griffey, jr as the guy you can count on being clean for his whole career. He is a stand up guy and would do nothing to dishonor the sport.
 
Muggle, as someone who still has this as a top sport, you have to be really outraged at what has been happening these days. Though it won't change a thing in LA, this latest find is sure to hurt baseball even harder. I for one am not surprised at this, nor will I be surprised at the next one. It's just a shame that the sport is going through this at this time. It should have been over and done with, but it isn't.
 
Muggle, as someone who still has this as a top sport, you have to be really outraged at what has been happening these days. Though it won't change a thing in LA, this latest find is sure to hurt baseball even harder. I for one am not surprised at this, nor will I be surprised at the next one. It's just a shame that the sport is going through this at this time. It should have been over and done with, but it isn't.

Yeah, it is kinda like slow torture. Ah, to be back in the 50's again with only 16 total teams and I probably knew the batting average of every player. Clemente, Groat, Mazeroski, Williams (Ted) Mantle, Mays....and then the Robinsons...Brooks and Frank.

Spahn and Sain.......and a day of rain.

1950 Phillies.....remember Eddie Waitkus, Granny Hamner, Del Ennis, and Richie Ashburn. Oh yeah, and Robin Roberts and Curt Simmons.
 
Naw, I would bet on Ken Griffey, jr as the guy you can count on being clean for his whole career. He is a stand up guy and would do nothing to dishonor the sport.

Well have you really taken a close look at Griffey? He has put on at least 20lbs, bulky, definite tell tale signs, no one is safe.....all mlb players in my mind have used either HGH or something that was illegal. That is the way I look at it now, nothing surprises me anymore, especially after reading Consecos' 2 books.
 
I don't see how anyone could be surprised at something like this at this point.

The biggest thing that bugs me though, is that many writers will use this as an excuse to not vote for Manny for the Hall of Fame. Since noone knows exactly who was taking what and when, it is rediculous to act like we do. Manny is a Hall of Fame caliber player. Some say voting in a player who was even suspected of cheating tarnishes the Hall in some way. I say it cheapens the hall much more to exclude players like Pete Rose, Mark McGuire(sp?), and Manny Ramirez who clearly are some of the greatest players to ever live.
 
Yeah, it is kinda like slow torture. Ah, to be back in the 50's again with only 16 total teams and I probably knew the batting average of every player. Clemente, Groat, Mazeroski, Williams (Ted) Mantle, Mays....and then the Robinsons...Brooks and Frank.

Spahn and Sain.......and a day of rain.

1950 Phillies.....remember Eddie Waitkus, Granny Hamner, Del Ennis, and Richie Ashburn. Oh yeah, and Robin Roberts and Curt Simmons.
I don't remember too much about those teams as I was still quite young at that time. What I remember of those times is strictly collecting and trading baseball cards. Yes, baseball certainly was in its heyday back then. But it was still doing pretty well into the 70's and early 80's. Some of those old Oakland A's sure made the game fun to watch and many of those guys went on to other teams but continued to keep the game exciting.
 
What many of you have failed to realize is that technology has evolved this sport. Meaning...science, supplements, training, and video technology. Todays players are better, stronger, faster, than the players from the 50s, 60s, and 70s. You put Carl Yaz up against say Jason Bay in a strength test, hands down Bay wins. Not to say that Yaz was not a great baseball player, because he was, and still is my all time favorite. What I'm saying is science and technology has given us a new Baseball player, in my mind the two eras can not be compared. They should remain as seperate entities in the Hall, of course that remains to be seen if it ever happens. The prevalent use of PEDs in baseball, is not only due to the dollar factor, but also the ego factor....to be the best. Look at Bonds for example, he was so jealous of Mack and Sosa during the homer season in which Baseball was resurected, he just had to get in on it. Not only in , but had to upstage Mack, by hitting his 73 and then eventually breaking Hanks record. Do I think steroids are bad in sports....yes, unless they are officially regulated and made legal. Do I think HGH is bad, absolutely not, this can only help an athlete if taken properly, and monitored by a physician or trainer. In fact I'll go one step further and say that HGH will be leagal in the next 10 years, that you will be able to dose yourself without ramifications by the law. Of course just like any thing it should be done correctly and not in excess....see Sly Stalone photos if you want to see what too much HGH does.
 
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