Mark Martin back with Roush

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Roush Fenway Racing announces that legendary NASCAR driver Mark Martin is returning to the race team where he excelled behind the wheel for almost 20 years - this time as the team's driver development coach. Martin was the first driver hired by team owner Jack Roush when he founded his NASCAR operation in 1988. The two went on to become one of the most successful duos in sports history, accumulating 83 NASCAR wins, four NASCAR Sprint Cup Series Championship runner-up finishes, and building Roush Fenway into the winningest team in NASCAR history.
"I'm excited to return to Roush Fenway Racing, as it feels like I'm going home to where I belong," said Martin. "I was fortunate to help build this team from the beginning and it's very humbling to be a part of Jack's team again. When Jack first hired me in 1988 we didn't talk about salary or benefits or perks, we talked about testing, tires and putting the right personnel into place to win on the track. That commitment is what stood out to me then and it's still what stands out to me today."
Martin piloted Roush Fenway's flagship #6 Ford from 1988 until 2006. During that time he accumulated 35 NSCS victories. At the end of his tenure at Roush Fenway he held a record five prestigious IROC (International Race of Champions) Championships and a then record 47 NASCAR Nationwide Series wins. For his career Martin posted 96 career NASCAR victories.

Desperation move by Roush? I hope he can help out the young guys there, Roush needs to be relevant as an Organization again.
 
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Hmm they should put him in the 26 and see what happens
 
Great move. He will definitely help with Bayne and Stenhouse, Roush needed some positive news like this.
 
Stenhouse & Bayne will learn the art of settling for second.
 
I'm a Mark fan but I agree with Chex. :eek: Mark was patient and had no problem with second place. Between the new playoff system and the aggression of drivers like Chase Elliott and Kyle Larson, that type of attitude just won't cut it.
 
Please. Nothing can help the lack of talent by Bayne, Stenhouse, and Biffle. If any of the Roush guys make it in the top 20 in points next year I'll be shocked.
 
Speedbowl14 said:
Please. Nothing can help the lack of talent by Bayne, Stenhouse, and Biffle. If any of the Roush guys make it in the top 20 in points next year I'll be shocked.
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You're forgetting all the Biffle fans! They tell me that Biffle is a championship contender! He's in it every year!
 
Martin lost a championship in 90 from a pretty B.S. penalty, but that's the way it goes, gives the haters a perch to stand on.

Mark Martin won the 1990 Pontiac Excitement 400 at Richmond, but four and-a-half hours after the race, NASCAR determined his carburetor spacer - a piece that fit between the carburetor and the intake manifold - was 2.5 inches high, half an inch taller than the legal maximum.

At most, the extra half-inch was worth two to three horsepower, hardly the difference between winning or losing. Worse yet, the infraction was avoidable. The 2.5-inch spacer was bolted to the manifold. Had the team welded half an inch onto the manifold and then bolted a 2-inch spacer on top of it, the car would have been totally legal with the carburetor at exactly the same height.

Martin was stripped of 46 Winston Cup points, his Roush Racing team fined $40,000 and crew chief Robin Pemberton suspended for 30 days by team owner Jack Roush, a suspension that was later lifted. "This particular situation could turn into losses of millions of dollars in sponsorships (and) prize money," Pemberton said at the time.

Little did he know just how right his forecasting would prove to be. Martin would eventually lose the 1990 Winston Cup championship to Dale Earnhardt by just 26 points. And while Earnhardt would go on to claim four titles this decade, Martin is still looking for his first. "People are going to say we are cheating to win, but it's not like that," Martin said. "I look at cheating as something that's done to get an unfair advantage. What was done on our car didn't give us an advantage on anybody. It wasn't like we had a big engine or illegal tires."
 
StandOnIt said:
Martin lost a championship in 90 from a pretty B.S. penalty, but that's the way it goes, gives the haters a perch to stand on.

Mark Martin won the 1990 Pontiac Excitement 400 at Richmond, but four and-a-half hours after the race, NASCAR determined his carburetor spacer - a piece that fit between the carburetor and the intake manifold - was 2.5 inches high, half an inch taller than the legal maximum.

At most, the extra half-inch was worth two to three horsepower, hardly the difference between winning or losing. Worse yet, the infraction was avoidable. The 2.5-inch spacer was bolted to the manifold. Had the team welded half an inch onto the manifold and then bolted a 2-inch spacer on top of it, the car would have been totally legal with the carburetor at exactly the same height.

Martin was stripped of 46 Winston Cup points, his Roush Racing team fined $40,000 and crew chief Robin Pemberton suspended for 30 days by team owner Jack Roush, a suspension that was later lifted. "This particular situation could turn into losses of millions of dollars in sponsorships (and) prize money," Pemberton said at the time.

Little did he know just how right his forecasting would prove to be. Martin would eventually lose the 1990 Winston Cup championship to Dale Earnhardt by just 26 points. And while Earnhardt would go on to claim four titles this decade, Martin is still looking for his first. "People are going to say we are cheating to win, but it's not like that," Martin said. "I look at cheating as something that's done to get an unfair advantage. What was done on our car didn't give us an advantage on anybody. It wasn't like we had a big engine or illegal tires."
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Now Pemberton is the guy giving out the penalties!
 
StandOnIt said:
Martin lost a championship in 90 from a pretty B.S. penalty, but that's the way it goes, gives the haters a perch to stand on.

Mark Martin won the 1990 Pontiac Excitement 400 at Richmond, but four and-a-half hours after the race, NASCAR determined his carburetor spacer - a piece that fit between the carburetor and the intake manifold - was 2.5 inches high, half an inch taller than the legal maximum.

At most, the extra half-inch was worth two to three horsepower, hardly the difference between winning or losing. Worse yet, the infraction was avoidable. The 2.5-inch spacer was bolted to the manifold. Had the team welded half an inch onto the manifold and then bolted a 2-inch spacer on top of it, the car would have been totally legal with the carburetor at exactly the same height.

Martin was stripped of 46 Winston Cup points, his Roush Racing team fined $40,000 and crew chief Robin Pemberton suspended for 30 days by team owner Jack Roush, a suspension that was later lifted. "This particular situation could turn into losses of millions of dollars in sponsorships (and) prize money," Pemberton said at the time.

Little did he know just how right his forecasting would prove to be. Martin would eventually lose the 1990 Winston Cup championship to Dale Earnhardt by just 26 points. And while Earnhardt would go on to claim four titles this decade, Martin is still looking for his first. "People are going to say we are cheating to win, but it's not like that," Martin said. "I look at cheating as something that's done to get an unfair advantage. What was done on our car didn't give us an advantage on anybody. It wasn't like we had a big engine or illegal tires."
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Thanks for the reminder, partner. *Turns on a Coldplay CD*
 
he really turned Danica around, and now he's moving on to help little Ricky. not sure how he could either one, they both know already how to let cars go by them.
 
KevinWI said:
You're forgetting all the Biffle fans!
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Biffle fans?

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pudge said:
he really turned Danica around, and now he's moving on to help little Ricky. not sure how he could either one, they both know already how to let cars go by them.
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no way to turn that no hoper around, really doubt Bayne has enough upstairs to find the finish line either. I don't see any help coming up, Buescher maybe. Bif is the horse to carry the load, sitting in 16th right now. About like always. Martin had a much better record in his prime than either Edwards or Biffle, probably could get in a car right now and do better than Stenhouse.
 
I think Roush needs more than just a veteran driver to coach the young guys, their cars need a lot of work too. Whatever they're doing over there in the engineering department just isn't working.
 
I don't think their cars are that far off. Edwards has clinched a chase spot, two wins, and Biffle is one place away from being in the chase. If I ruled the world, Stenhouse would be on double secret probation for one more year, if he is lolygagging around in the lower 20's next year, he would be out the door. Let Lil Danni finance his racing.
 
KahneFan said:
I think Roush needs more than just a veteran driver to coach the young guys, their cars need a lot of work too. Whatever they're doing over there in the engineering department just isn't working.
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To be fair, Roush could be working on all of those things with similar moves and hires, and we'd never know because they aren't the people talked about on Sunday.

He might not be, too. But he might be!
 
StandOnIt said:
Martin lost a championship in 90 from a pretty B.S. penalty, but that's the way it goes, gives the haters a perch to stand on.

Mark Martin won the 1990 Pontiac Excitement 400 at Richmond, but four and-a-half hours after the race, NASCAR determined his carburetor spacer - a piece that fit between the carburetor and the intake manifold - was 2.5 inches high, half an inch taller than the legal maximum.

At most, the extra half-inch was worth two to three horsepower, hardly the difference between winning or losing. Worse yet, the infraction was avoidable. The 2.5-inch spacer was bolted to the manifold. Had the team welded half an inch onto the manifold and then bolted a 2-inch spacer on top of it, the car would have been totally legal with the carburetor at exactly the same height.

Martin was stripped of 46 Winston Cup points, his Roush Racing team fined $40,000 and crew chief Robin Pemberton suspended for 30 days by team owner Jack Roush, a suspension that was later lifted. "This particular situation could turn into losses of millions of dollars in sponsorships (and) prize money," Pemberton said at the time.

Little did he know just how right his forecasting would prove to be. Martin would eventually lose the 1990 Winston Cup championship to Dale Earnhardt by just 26 points. And while Earnhardt would go on to claim four titles this decade, Martin is still looking for his first. "People are going to say we are cheating to win, but it's not like that," Martin said. "I look at cheating as something that's done to get an unfair advantage. What was done on our car didn't give us an advantage on anybody. It wasn't like we had a big engine or illegal tires."
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that was the second race of the year, mark had plenty of time to make up the points. DALE was only a three time champion at the time, so it wasn't to help DALE win the championship. they didn't play rules. I don't think it had anything to do with mark, nascar was sending jack a message. you're not going to come in here and rule the show with all your money like you did with your mustangs.
 
StandOnIt said:
I don't think their cars are that far off. Edwards has clinched a chase spot, two wins, and Biffle is one place away from being in the chase.
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Edwards has won a couple of races at drivers' tracks, that's it. The team's best average finishes come on road courses (13.7) and short tracks (16.4), but their worst two types are tracks between 1-2 miles (17.1) and tracks of 2+ miles (21.9). The same goes for their qualifying averages.

Michigan had to be one of the most embarrassing performances ever by that team.
 
BOWTIE GUY said:
that was the second race of the year, mark had plenty of time to make up the points. DALE was only a three time champion at the time, so it wasn't to help DALE win the championship. they didn't play rules. I don't think it had anything to do with mark, nascar was sending jack a message. you're not going to come in here and rule the show with all your money like you did with your mustangs.
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you don't make up points. o_Othere isn't a bonus system. I don't know where you come up with the other, personal opinion I guess. The Carb was of legal height and would have been legal with a half an inch welded on the manifold and a 2 " spacer, 6 of one half a dozen of the other. There wasn't a performance advantage either way. a racing bad deal, but I don't expect that to change anybodies mind around here. But dang, you can only lose points, with a penalty.
 
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StandOnIt said:
you don't make up points. o_Othere isn't a bonus system. I don't know where you come up with the other, personal opinion I guess. The Carb was of legal height and would have been legal with a half an inch welded on the manifold and a 2 " spacer, 6 of one half a dozen of the other. There wasn't a performance advantage either way.
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sure you do, Allen made up 200 points in 1992 to win the championship. ifs and buts. it wasn't legal and nascar called them on it end of story.
 
DaBiff1618 said:
Biffle makes the chase almost yearly, has 19 wins, and a nationwide and trucks title. Explain to me how he has a lack of talent :rolleyes:
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He's a solid driver, I'll give him that. He's constantly in the 10th to 20th place range. It's very rare that he's a contender to win. He's usually in the Chase, but I can't recall where he's even eligible for the championship come Homestead.

I wouldn't say that he, as an individual, has a lack of talent. I was looking at the entire Roush organization, which, as a top tier team, won't have top tier drivers come 2015.
 
mark's biggest contribution ta roush....may be his time/ info from shr......- hms. ?
 
How about this: Edwards is leaving at season's end, no new driver for the 99 is announced then suddenly daytona speedweeks 2015 comes & Martin's in the 99 car... thoughts...
 
That Jack Roush has some nerve trying to better his organization just when people are predicting gloom and doom for him. I guess Ray Evernham wasn't available, for some odd reason.

It's curious how people claimed that Roush forced Martin to continue to race when he made it very clear that he was done, yet continued to drive for different organizations after he left Roush. Did Jack force him to do that as well?

Seriously people...Jack Roush has an airplane accident, loses sight in one eye and people make ********* fun of it :eek: yet when a member of the HMS bunch take a tumble, we're all supposed to take a 20 year moment of silence.

**** that.
 
#17D500winner said:
That Jack Roush has some nerve trying to better his organization just when people are predicting gloom and doom for him. I guess Ray Evernham wasn't available, for some odd reason.

It's curious how people claimed that Roush forced Martin to continue to race when he made it very clear that he was done, yet continued to drive for different organizations after he left Roush. Did Jack force him to do that as well?

Seriously people...Jack Roush has an airplane accident, loses sight in one eye and people make ********* fun of it :eek: yet when a member of the HMS bunch take a tumble, we're all supposed to take a 20 year moment of silence.

**** that.
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What post am I missing here that set you off this morning?
 
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