Mark Martin in Trucks

mark martin is not unbeatable...an yeeah what was that about retiring?
 
There is NOBODY currently driving in the CTS that has Mark Martin's driving ability.
And........Mark only said he was retiring from full-time Cup schedule, as did Rusty.
Rusty has interest in Rolex 24 hour races.
 
I for one can't wait to see the Boner Man kick some butt in the trucks!
Next stop.........batesville!
 
I've always said I never would but I'm gonna have to get Speed Channel now.
 
Mark said he was leaving Nextel Cup, not retiring. I have to get speed channel too. Trucks and dirt track racing.
Go Mark
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Brendan Gaughan can beat him, once he gets that team running smoothly...everyone seems to have forgotten him.
 
On Nasacar drivers 360, Mark said he was RETIRING, so he could spend the time with his family. Something he could not do while he was racing. He also said he wanted to be there for his sons Mat racing career. He wanted to be more devoted to his sons racing adventures, something he could not do while racing full time. All i'm saying is don't say your'e retiring if you are not. Just like teams saying, (insert name here) is a great driver and we are very happy with him the rumors that we are letting him go are false. 3 weeks later the guy has a new ride. Watch out Vickers.
 
Son Matt is racing Sport Trucks -- what better way for Mark to understand what his son is doing than by racing them himself. Besides, it is a less stressful schedule.
 
esorlxaw said:
Brendan Gaughan can beat him, once he gets that team running smoothly...everyone seems to have forgotten him.
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You must have landed on your head when you fell out of your tree!
CTS is for youngsters trying to get to Cup or for has-beens that couldn't hang in Cup and got booted from their Cup rides (Hornaday, Hamilton, Musgrave, Gaughan, Spencer, Pressley, Skinner, etc.). All of these guys have never been in the top 10 in Cup. Mark is leaving while he's in the top 10 and still competitive. If Gaughan was so fast he'd still have a Cup ride. (oughta spell his name "Gone").
 
BobbyFord said:
You must have landed on your head when you fell out of your tree!
CTS is for youngsters trying to get to Cup or for has-beens that couldn't hang in Cup and got booted from their Cup rides (Hornaday, Hamilton, Musgrave, Gaughan, Spencer, Pressley, Skinner, etc.). All of these guys have never been in the top 10 in Cup. Mark is leaving while he's in the top 10 and still competitive. If Gaughan was so fast he'd still have a Cup ride. (oughta spell his name "Gone").
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None of those guys have a Cup championship either...wait, neithe does Mark Martin.

Oh, I get it, I suppose Mark Martin could make the 77 car run like he makes the 6 car run. I mean, Blaney, Gaughan and Kvapil, what a group of no talent hacks. Besides, Gaughan should have been and Kvapil is a CTS Champion. Apparently, Truck success does not translate directly into Cup success. It would seem that this would work vice versa. In short, since I fell on my head when I fell out of my tree:

Cup Cars DO NOT EQUAL Trucks
Trucks DO NOT EQUAL Cup Cars

But, for some reason, Mark Martin is a shoo in for CTS Champ...make perfect sense.
 
For sure. The Craftsman Truck Series will come to be known as the Mark Martin Invitational...
 
esorlxaw said:
None of those guys have a Cup champion**** either...wait, neithe does Mark Martin.

Oh, I get it, I suppose Mark Martin could make the 77 car run like he makes the 6 car run. I mean, Blaney, Gaughan and Kvapil, what a group of no talent hacks. Besides, Gaughan should have been and Kvapil is a CTS Champion. Apparently, Truck success does not translate directly into Cup success. It would seem that this would work vice versa. In short, since I fell on my head when I fell out of my tree:

Cup Cars DO NOT EQUAL Trucks
Trucks DO NOT EQUAL Cup Cars

But, for some reason, Mark Martin is a shoo in for CTS Champ...make perfect sense.
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Truck sucess doesn't translate into Cup sucess. Apparently Carl Edwards and Kurt Busch missed that memo.
So what you're saying is, somebody that is currently 27th in points in the CTS has a better shot at winning a truck championship than somebody that is currently 6th in Cup? Interesting.
Gaughan only lasted 1 year in Cup, finishing 28th. He only had 1 top 5 and 4 top 10s.
For the last 10 years Mark has averaged 6th in Cup points. No way does Gaughan have the talent to crack the top 10 in Cup.
It's just my logical opinion.
 
BobbyFord said:
Truck sucess doesn't translate into Cup sucess. Apparently Carl Edwards and Kurt Busch missed that memo.
So what you're saying is, somebody that is currently 27th in points in the CTS has a better shot at winning a truck championship than somebody that is currently 6th in Cup? Interesting.
Gaughan only lasted 1 year in Cup, finishing 28th. He only had 1 top 5 and 4 top 10s.
For the last 10 years Mark has averaged 6th in Cup points. No way does Gaughan have the talent to crack the top 10 in Cup.
It's just my logical opinion.
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Okay, first and foremost, my statement was meant to explain that just because you are good in trucks doesn't mean you'll be good in Cup...

YES Kurt Busch and Carl Edwards are doing well, but how well did Jack Sprague do? How well did Brendan Gaughan do? How well is Travis Kvapil doing?

At the same time, I AM saying that someone currently 27th in CTS standings has a better chance of winning the CTS Championship than someone currently 6th in Cup points.

1.) Brendan is getting this new team started...once it gets going, it should surely be a lot like his old 62 team.

2.) Brendan hasn't made all of the races, so I can't say that he'd be a lot higher, but you must take that into consideration.

3.) Brendan has (as far as the CTS is concerned) a LOT MORE EXPERIENCE...

Now, if the argument is that Good in one series means good in the other, then Mark Martin will certainly show us several good runner-up to the championship finishes in the years to come, but then again, it was nice to see Jack Sprague and Mike Skinner win all of those CUP championships...

OH WAIT...THEY DIDN'T

Yes, its true, success can be expected for those who are good at Cup, but it is not guaranteed, just as Cup success is not an indicator of Truck success.

At the same time previous truck success does not actually guarantee future truck success nore does cup success. So, it is pointless to try to say that Mark Martin will be a dominant force in the CTS...who'd'a thunk Ricky Craven would be the CTS force that he is? Not me, but he surprised me and earned a fan.

By the way, put Gaughan in the 6 Cup car, and watch him take off...the 77 car is and was crap, has anyone ever made it run?

Its had 7 top fives, 33 top tens and ZERO wins...since 1975, sounds like a top notch team throughout the ages.
 
Mark Martin could do okay in the CTS but he may have to drop his nice guy image. As for Gaughan, he may do better if did less talking and more listening. I also think that Kvapil has a good chance of winning a race this year but I sure wont be becuase he has superior equipment.
 
Patrick9999 said:
Mark Martin could do okay in the CTS but he may have to drop his nice guy image.
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What? You expect Martin to trade sheet metal with another truck driver... :D

In case anyone had forgotten Martin finished 14th in the standings in 1982 with six top-10 finishes. That was his 1st full year in cup.

Compare that to poster boy Jeff Gordon who in 1993 was 14th in the standings with 11 top-10 finishes.

What does all that prove. Absolutely nothing. If Mark gets a good truck and tries he will do well. If he gets junk or is distracted by outside things he won't.

Mikey went 400+ races before he ever won. What changed to make him a winner? Or, is he a winner?

Someone call the Wizard maybe he's got some Attitude he can pass out for killing off the Wicked Witch of Car #20...
 
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