MLB punishes the Astros for 2017 sign stealing as the NFL should have punished the Patriots

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  1. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    instead of covering it up and destroying the evidence.

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/28476780/astros-jeff-luhnow-aj-hinch-fired-sign-stealing

    In short, MLB suspended both the Astros' GM Jeff Luhnow and manager AJ Hinch for the upcoming season, and the Astros in turn fired both. They fined the Astros the maximum amount allowable and took away first and second round draft picks for 2020 and 2021. Discipline for current Red Sox manager Alex Cora, who was in 2017 the Astros' bench coach and widely viewed as the architect of the video surveillance system used, is forthcoming. The sentence for him will likely be worse.

    They almost got it right. Given that this was not isolated or a sole rogue actor within the organization, the Astros should also be stripped of their World Series title for that season as well. They should be the equivalent of the 1919 Black Sox.

    What say you?
     
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  2. Reck

    Reck Team Owner

    Astros owner finished the job in firing both Hinch and Luhnow.

    The Red Sox might as well retroactively fire Cora as well and start looking for a brand new manager.

    I agree the Astros need their 2017 championship vacated. And if the investigation into the Red Sox is as egregious as what we had with the Astros they need to do the same.

    I feel Cora is about to get banned from the MLB being linked to two teams who cheated back to back. What an embarrassment.
     
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  3. fergy1370

    fergy1370 Team Owner

    Strip them of all their wins including the World Series.
     
  4. FLRacingFan

    FLRacingFan Team Owner

    This is a price most franchises, if not all, would be willing to pay for a World Series title.
     
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  5. Greg

    Greg 2014 RF YAHOO CHAMP Your leader

    Hard to revise this far removed from the event, imo. Apply penalties, fines, bans etc, imo.
    Stripping them of the championship probably would please the purist (the ones that will never leave) while leaving more casual fans in doubt about the credibility.
    Minimizing this will not be popular with many, but it is the best for damage control.
     
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  6. Johnny G

    Johnny G Team Owner

    Definitely a huge story and yes i think Alex Cora is going to pay a similar if not bigger price than AJ Hinch. He's gonna get fired from the Red Sox for sure and at least a 1 year ban.

    I'm not one for stripping titles from teams. The punishment they received is suitable enough.

    Saying they're the equal to the 1919 White Sox that threw the World Series is a bit extreme to me.
     
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  7. Reck

    Reck Team Owner



    Looks like it was mutual. It had to be done. Respect
     
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  8. Johnny G

    Johnny G Team Owner

    Yeah might as well get it over with. He's gonna get hit with at least a 1 year ban. Might be more. Sox need to get moving on bringing in a new manager.
     
  9. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    The Red Sox are currently under MLB investigation regarding whether they used a similar sign stealing system during 2018. The Kumbaya statement that praises Cora for being such a swell guy means they are all sticking together for now, hoping it blows over. We'll see.
     
  10. RacerrecaR

    RacerrecaR Orange cone

    Everyone involved should be fined the equivalent of their salary during 2017, and then some. They should also be permanently banned from participating in the MLB in any form, including attending a game as a fan. The World Series title should also be stripped from them.
     
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  11. Reck

    Reck Team Owner

    https://theathletic.com/1363451/201...much-broader-issue-for-major-league-baseball/

    https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id...on-fires-hinch-luhnow-answering-all-questions

    Not that I'm making any excuses here. :whoopee:
     
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  12. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

  13. Reck

    Reck Team Owner

    Carlos Beltran got fired.

    MLB should cancel the 2020 season and clean house once and for all. This sport needs a hard reset.

    I already feel sorry for the eventual 2020 WS champ. They're going to be a footnote in the aftermath of what happened this year.
     
  14. Reck

    Reck Team Owner



    WHAT.IN.THE.SINGLE.FUCK?
     
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  15. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

    Turning into cycling over here. Everyone's dirty!
     
  16. Reck

    Reck Team Owner

    If the electronic devices is true than not only do they need to vacate the championship but ban these players for life. This is too much.
     
  17. gnomesayin

    gnomesayin Team Owner

  18. Reck

    Reck Team Owner

    Now Mike Trout is being dragged into this. :lol2:

    The purists of this sport must be close to suiciding right now.
     
  19. Turtle84

    Turtle84 gained a step

    just wow if that's true. unbelievable really
     
  20. fergy1370

    fergy1370 Team Owner

    Pete says, "Bye boys!"

    [​IMG]
     
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  21. Johnny G

    Johnny G Team Owner

    If Altuve and Bregman DID wear devices and it can be proven then yeah i agree that's gotta be it for them.

    Those involved in this scandal are gonna pay the price for MLB doing nothing for years during they steroid era, when everyone knew what was going on but it was selling too many tickets to make them wanna stop it.
     
  22. Johnny G

    Johnny G Team Owner

    Pete Rose should be in the HOF on a side note. If i had a vote, i'd vote for him. His gambling had no effect on his personal accomplishments in the game.
     
  23. Turtle84

    Turtle84 gained a step

    Hmm he seems upset
     

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